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SpinnerRow 07-09-2012 07:42 AM

New DLE 35
 
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Anyone have numbers on this new engine? With the rear exhaust, this engine and an 80" P-51 seem to be a match made in heaven!

Yanked this pic off of Valley View's site: http://www.valleyviewrc.com/estore/d...as-engine.html


VIRGINIA MODEL BUILDERS 07-09-2012 07:55 AM

RE: New DLE 35
 
What numbers do you seek

SpinnerRow 07-09-2012 08:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: VIRGINIA MODEL BUILDERS

What numbers do you seek
Good ones - hopefully!

VIRGINIA MODEL BUILDERS 07-09-2012 08:19 AM

RE: New DLE 35
 
Price or other

3136 07-09-2012 02:50 PM

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http://www.dlenginesaustralia.com/dl...ol-engine.html

Mr67Stang 07-09-2012 10:05 PM

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2.5 lbs engine/muffler/ignition AUW!!!! that is unbelievable [X(]

Currious if it has the same foot print as the DLE-30...

3136 07-10-2012 03:32 AM

RE: New DLE 35
 
no, the top stand offs are 80mm apart vs 70mm apart on the dle30, bottom mounts are still 70mm apart and 54mm distance height.
Have a look at the drawings, it shows it all.

SpinnerRow 07-10-2012 05:53 AM

RE: New DLE 35
 
How does it compare to a DLE 30? Does it like more revs? What prop is optimal for this engine?

captinjohn 07-10-2012 06:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerRow

Anyone have numbers on this new engine? With the rear exhaust, this engine and an 80" P-51 seem to be a match made in heaven!

Yanked this pic off of Valley View's site: http://www.valleyviewrc.com/estore/d...as-engine.html


Way too high priced for a 35cc china made engine....ya got to be kidding !http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f.../msn/52_52.gif

ahicks 07-10-2012 07:48 AM

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According to a couple of guys on another site, TBM was taking "pre-orders" for less than 300 a week ago. My bet is they'll drop to that again once the supply line has a chance to fill a bit?

MTK 07-10-2012 09:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: captinjohn
Way too high priced for a 35cc china made engine....ya got to be kidding ![img][/img]

That's my thought too. BUT IF it hauls the mail as it should, it wouldn't be a bad price. Consider what the OS33GT goes for, albeit from Tower who have the OS line in monopoly; or the SAP180HP....

If the 35 proves itself equal to the OS, it would be something of note

rmoose 07-10-2012 11:18 AM

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id start off with a 19x10 a 19x8 works well on a dle -30 or a vess 19 b or c

SpinnerRow 07-10-2012 12:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: rmoose

id start off with a 19x10 a 19x8 works well on a dle -30 or a vess 19 b or c
I'm looking for speed on an 80" World Models P-51. So for me it may be a 17x13 or 18x12 or so. Hopefully it'll rev into the high 8K range or low 9K range without ventilating the block.

rc34074 07-10-2012 02:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerRow



ORIGINAL: rmoose

id start off with a 19x10 a 19x8 works well on a dle -30 or a vess 19 b or c
I'm looking for speed on an 80'' World Models P-51. So for me it may be a 17x13 or 18x12 or so. Hopefully it'll rev into the high 8K range or low 9K range without ventilating the block.
The guys in the scale racing area - see scale racing under the pylon racing Forum here on rcu - are starting a class to race the TWM 80 inch mustangs using this general size engine - so you might want to take a look at what they are doing.

Ed

rcguy59 07-10-2012 06:08 PM

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I just got mine today. I got it mounted on my KMP Bearcat. A Saito 180 was adequate, but not impressive, so I shelved the airplane until something better came along. It did! This is the first one out of ValleyView RC's door. I paid full retail for it, so I can be honest about my impressions and experience. So far, I like what I see. Fit and finish is nice, as I've come to expect from DLE. A very welcome feature is that the ignition module is rated for 4.8-8.4V. No more regulators for the ignition. The throttle arm on the carb is of a proper length, not requiring extension or replacement. The plug boot is angled to match the angle of the plug. The outlet stacks on the muffler don't seem to have a lot of brazing on them, so we'll have to keep an eye out for cracking. I can't get the damned photos to upload. I'll keep trying, guys.

rcguy59 07-10-2012 06:47 PM

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rcguy59 07-10-2012 07:57 PM

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Truckracer 07-10-2012 08:10 PM

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Engine looks very nice! About the only problem I can see right off is that the rear muffler might heat soak the carb after sitting for a bit after a run ... making restarts more difficult. But time will tell for sure.

krayzc-RCU 07-10-2012 08:39 PM

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wow that exhaust is a cause for nord locks from the start :D

airraptor 07-10-2012 08:45 PM

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if you guys worry about heat send the muffler out to a engine header shop that will ceramic coat the muffler. You can get different colors and might gain 100 rpm or so.

Mikecam 07-10-2012 10:50 PM

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Looks like there is a sleeve in the casting for a manual choke rod out the front. If that is the case then DLE sure was listening. :D

jharkin 07-11-2012 05:13 AM

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When folks do prop tests I'd be interested to know how it manages with a big low pitch prop - will it handle a 20x8, 20x6 or even bigger? For WWI 1/4 scale....

hsukaria 07-11-2012 06:16 AM

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Does it use an NGK CM6 spark plug?

vertical grimmace 07-11-2012 07:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: hsukaria

Does it use an NGK CM6 spark plug?
Looks like it from the picture. Looks to be a really cool engine.

rica1 07-11-2012 08:23 AM

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Would like any review info on this eng. Let us know if you come across one. Looks very nice but a little concerned about the exhaust right below the carb.

Lifer 07-11-2012 08:32 AM

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The DLE 30 swings a 20x6 very well, so I assume the 35 should turn the 20x8.

rmoose 07-11-2012 10:14 AM

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Didn't the motor come with a prop guide should give you a starting point. its not going to turn much more than a dle 30 to start with prop for prop proubly is going to twist the same prop like a 19x8 about 500rpms faster if it was on a dle-30 thats it !

mikes68charger 07-12-2012 05:30 AM

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Idon't know about that the PTE36R can turn a 1 in bigger prop than a DLE30, so I would say DLE would at least make as much or more power. If you were going to remake a motor that has such poplarity becouse its cheap and power would you make another one that is just cheap?

rmoose 07-12-2012 06:18 PM

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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Idon't know about anybody else who has brought a pte36 -r but it is junk. wont run long ehough to test anything the ign.box is junk and several people iv spoke to who have brought that engine all had bad proublems as well... had the engine on break in stand and ran about 10 mins. after30 minsfinally got it started was leaking fuel somewere around the reed valve area then the engine would just quit running. like you cut it off . at 3000 rpms send motor back to troy built waited 2 weeks .there mach Jeff. said engine was perfect said he ran engine all day with no proublem.which was a lie i got engine back from them <font color="#ff0000">at my shipping cost to and from abot $35.00 bucks.</font>started ran about 3 mins. same proublem. finally sent engine back and got a store credit. customer service was great talked to bill and traded the engine in on a dle-55. when the pte was running it did make good power about 500 rpms more than a dle-30 prop for prop. anyway just whated to let you know don'trate the pte- 36- r to anything. its a good looking motor but has alot of issues! i hope the dle isn't a clone of that hunk of scrap metal the dle 35 should turn a 20x6 with no proublem. i would guess.. the only thing i have found with dle engines is the timing is almost always off by 3-6 degs. advanced iv cked all there engines and from the 111 to the 30 are all out. of specs.setting the timing makes the engine run alot bettera good idle,smoother, less vibration ,. hope this will help some folks out there?</span>

mikes68charger 07-12-2012 07:28 PM

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I'm actuly going throw the exsact same thing. I just mailed my pte36 back to Troybuilt. As it was doing everything you listed. I need a smaller motor but more power. I wonder if I could put a PTE muffler on a zdz40 and make good power

Mr67Stang 07-12-2012 08:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: mikes68charger

I'm actuly going throw the exsact same thing. I just mailed my pte36 back to Troybuilt. As it was doing everything you listed. I need a smaller motor but more power. I wonder if I could put a PTE muffler on a zdz40 and make good power
Sounds like a good argument for just spending the money on a Syssa 30cc :eek:

rmoose 07-12-2012 08:42 PM

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good luck jeffro treats everybody like a moren what kind of fuel what kind of battery ect. ect. i finally told him do you think i would spend all this money in freight over a battery i could of brought 2 battery id payed in freight. the truth of the matter is the pte is a piece of crap. i waited almost a mo. had plane ready to go except, a engine the plane was a g.planes edge 540 the dle 55 worked out perfect for that plane .well good luck dealing with that guy in fla. is like pulling teeth also im sure you heard your the first person thats had a proublem with this engine. id proubly say that too if i had a stk. pile of them in stk. lol... do your self a favor and talk to customer service a trade it in for a dle or something other that a pte. p.s. if you read the forms on the pte most of the guys said the muffler fell apart on there first flight or on the test stand

gotoyogesh007 07-13-2012 09:32 AM

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Any review about this sweet little engine ?

rcguy59 07-13-2012 03:34 PM

RE: New DLE 35
 
I'm hoping to run mine on the Bearcat tomorrow. The install is almost done.

rica1 07-13-2012 04:46 PM

RE: New DLE 35
 
Please give us your impressions and any figures you can after you run the eng. And a flight report on the Bearcat if you fly it. [8D]

rcguy59 07-14-2012 08:51 PM

RE: New DLE 35
 
Well, it runs. Actually, it runs quite well. The only prop I had available was an 18-8. I know that it is small for a 35, but it was all I had. After about 10 oz. of fuel, I set the needles. Yes, it started right out of the box. I got 8400 at full throttle and got the idle down to 1800 rpm. Throttle response is excellent and it starts easily. I'm very pleased with it so far and can't wait to actually fly it. Here's some pics.

rcguy59 07-14-2012 09:16 PM

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rica1 07-14-2012 10:32 PM

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Sounds good so far, especially the easy start. What prop are you going with next or are you going to continue with the 18x8 prop for awhile? Looks like a really nice fit within the cowl on the Bearcat. Good looking plane, how much does it weight? How about a flight report when you maiden it? Rick[8D]

rcguy59 07-14-2012 10:49 PM

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Gonna start with an 18-10 and go from there. An 18-12 would be even better, if I can find one. The Bearcat flew fine with a Saito 180 but needed more power, at least for my taste. Dry wt. is about 17lbs. Nice, honest airplane. Just what you'd expect from the Grumman Iron Works.

MTK 07-15-2012 04:51 PM

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I think apc made an 18x12 wide hub for the 4 bolts

I wish manufacturers produced the smaller gassies with a single prop nut. It would open up a wide array of apc props in this size range, all reasonably priced


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