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jloftin 07-10-2012 08:25 AM

AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE
 
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Why i use <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span> products ? I have been flying giant scale r/c planes for about ten years now. The first time i saw giant scale planes was around 2002 i went to a giant scale R/C fly-in in Lebanon TN where i saw many awesome flyers there, Pros then and now !!!!!! most of them were flying Carden planes with DA engines !! WHENISAWTHEM "IWASHOOKED " and at the time i didn't know much about any thing that had to do with r/c planes or engines. I did know i wanted to fly them and loved the scale and design of the planes and OOOHHHHYESTHAT <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span> STICKERONTHECOWLOFJUSTABOUTALLOFTHEREPLANES ??????????? NOWLETFASTFORWARD 2012 NOWIHAVE THEPLANESIDREAMEDOFFLYING!!!!!!!!!!!! and i have a lot more knowledge about what to use on my planes to make them the best planes i can fly servos , electronics ,covering, hardware, battery's, plane kits. ANDYES ( ENGINES)

ANDTHISISWHERETHATSTICKERCOMESINTHATISAWIN2002 <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span>

I have been using <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span> OILPRODUCTS for ten years now on my Giant Scale R/C engines now. the engines are two -cycle electronic ignitions motors that operate in ranges from 1:200 to 6:800 rpm with a flying time of about 12 min i use one pack of the <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span> SABER100:1 premix packet to a gallon of gas this mix will work with 100cc 50cc 30cc motors and i even break in the motors with this same mix adjusting the carburetor after about three or four gallons of gas through the motor. The reason that AMSOIL is so awesome and easy to use in 100cc 50cc 30cc is that it provides optimum protection at 100:1 when the motor manufacturer has specified a 50:1 or 30:1 mix ratio.

The reason <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span> can do this is ( THE OIL RESIST CONSUMPTION AND EVAPORATION BETTER THAN CONVENTIONAL TWO-CYCLE OILS.THE COMBINATION OF PREMIUM BASE OIL CHEMISTRY AND SUPERIOR ADDITIVE TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS SABER 100:1 TO DELIVER MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE AND PROTECTION IN SMALL ENGINE APPLICATIONS EVEN AT 100:1)

Saber pro 100:1 is designed for lean mix ratios ,it contains high temperature detergents for small power equipment, 100cc 50cc 30cc it has excellent lubricity and cleanliness properties to control friction and help prevent wear, plug fouling and ring sticking

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COOLERRUNNINGLESSMAINTENANCE LONGERPERFORMANCEBEFOREENGINEOVERHAUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEREISKNOWBETTERPRODUCTONTHEMARKET I CHOOSE <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL </span></span>AS MY AIRPLANE MOTOR OIL FOR PERFORMANCE . QUALITY AND DEPENDABILITY

please ask any questions that you have about AMSOIL i have the wright information that you need for quality performance of you oil product

<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">AMS<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">OIL</span></span> FLYERANDDEALERJAYLOFTIN <span style="font-style: italic;">www.jayloftinyoutube.com amsoilj@hotmail.com
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Texastbird 07-10-2012 08:39 AM

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Whatever floats your boat. I won't void my warranty by not running the proper oil ratio.

CiprianGugu 07-10-2012 08:48 AM

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Use what you want. I would not use it if you gave it to me free.

w8ye 07-10-2012 08:57 AM

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I have a Brison twin given to me that was burned up using amsoil at 100:1

jloftin 07-10-2012 08:58 AM

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you can run the proper ration if you like The AMSOIL article is saying that the product is so good you can run just one packet if you want to run more than one packet that is ok to 100:1 1 pk 50:1 2 pk 30:1 3 pk that is fine but you wouldn't void any warranty that i know of and i running 100:1 in all my engines i have one 20cc one 30cc two 50cc one 100cc ???????? no problems????????????


Thank you amsoilj

jloftin 07-10-2012 09:13 AM

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The Brison owners manual states use Amsoil 100:1 think there may have been user problem??????? Should ask the person that you got the motor from if they were mixing too much oil that was not a synthetic blend before they started to run amsoil to much oil will cause the rings to stick and seize that may have been the problem


????????? amsoilj

jloftin 07-10-2012 09:30 AM

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IF YOUHAVEANYQUESTIONSABOUTAMSOILUSEE-MAILMEAT amsoilj@hotmail.com

w8ye 07-10-2012 09:31 AM

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The pistons were galled and the rings were stuck in the pistons - true - but I can see right now your attitude towards failure by running Amsoil at 100:!.

Your answer . . . : "There was a problem with the previous oil and that the rings were already stuck and this caused the galling"?

The galling caused the rings to be stuck! - The rings being stuck didn't cause the galling! What caused the galling?

Running Amsoil at 50:1 might be OK?


jloftin 07-10-2012 09:48 AM

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Galling can be caused by many factors oil holes blocked bad pins or bearings in proper tunning of crab for proper fuel mix to say it was amsoil is an easy answer no i don't think that amsoil is perfect but i don't have a problem with my engines they are running awesome and performing great i have now idea what brison makes there parts from and if your friend ran his engine proper but as for me and the thousands of flyers that use amsoil every thing is fine ??????????????????????????? Also try some AMSOILQUICKSHOT this will take care of this problem if the motor is tuned wright and there is not a problem with what parts are in the motor ?




Thank you Jay loftin

SkidMan 07-10-2012 10:51 AM

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Wow. The only posts amsoilj has made on RCU the whole time he has been "flying giant scale r/c planes for about ten years' are the 5 posts in this single thread promoting a product sold by his Amsoil dealership.

My own decision is to not run 100:1 in my engines or even use SABER. This does not even come remotely close to making me reconsider.

Paul


bgw45 07-10-2012 11:00 AM

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For me, I think KNOWT. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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THERE IS KNOW BETTER PRODUCT ON THE MARKET I CHOOSE <span style=''color: rgb(255, 0, 0);''>AMS<span style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 255);''>OIL </span></span>AS MY AIRPLANE MOTOR OIL FOR PERFORMANCE . QUALITY AND DEPENDABILITY

jloftin 07-10-2012 11:22 AM

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Thank you Paul Here is a copy of the AMSOIL r/c airplane article hope this helps if not thank you for you reply go to page 13

karolh 07-10-2012 12:10 PM

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Thank you for your most generous and thoughtful offer but sorry, I will take a pass on this one.

Karol

ahicks 07-10-2012 12:16 PM

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Run 3 packets to get to 30:1 (32:1) recommended for my 20cc? Seriously? Why would I want to triple or even quadruple what it cost me for oil? If you're going to tell me it's going to make my engine run better somehow, you're going to have to show/convince me with some hard evidence, opinions are worth what they cost...

Regarding making my engine last longer, at 30:1 my engine is likely going to out last me, so let's not waste time going there either...

jloftin 07-10-2012 01:36 PM

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jloftin 07-10-2012 01:57 PM

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jloftin 07-10-2012 04:24 PM

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telejojo 07-10-2012 05:56 PM

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I use Redline at 40:1 in all of my gas engines and clean with no problems, but if works run it it.

cbh82v 07-10-2012 05:59 PM

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amsoil sounds great.  but I can never find the stuff.  Most local motorcycle shops have redline. but it seems that only about 1 in 10 have amsoil.
Anyone have a link, or an easy way to find it.

w8ye 07-10-2012 06:12 PM

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RedLine is the oil of choice at the local flying field.

karolh 07-10-2012 06:25 PM

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A few years ago some very comphrensive real world tests were done under very controlled conditions by a very reputable individual on several of the more popular mineral/ synthetic oils we use in our sport, and Amsoil was among those tested. The results of the Amsoil test was sufficient to convince me that using it in my engines would not have been in the best interest of my engines so I chose not to use it and have no plans of ever doing so. To those that use it and swear by it, to each his own..... if it works for you, then good for you.

Karol

Red Raider 07-10-2012 07:52 PM

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I too was an Amsoil dealer. I had 2 brand new CRRC 26s on a Nosen 310. Took it to the field to run in the engines. I had been told that at 100:1 the engines would be fine. BS. In the first 5 minutes I had wrecked the bearings in one of the engines, and nearly torched the other. After $175 to rebuild the trashed engine, not to mention putting off the maiden flight of my new plane for a month, I dropped my dealership, and never recommend to anyone that they try to use Amsoil, or any other oil for that matter at any mixture less than 32:1. Having said that, I get 12,000 miles between oil changes in my powerstroke diesel pickup using Amsoil synthetic motor oil. It is just not possible to use that lean of a mixture no matter how good the oil. And no matter who tries to tell you.

MetallicaJunkie 07-10-2012 10:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: jloftin

you can run the proper ration if you like The AMSOIL article is saying that the product is so good you can run just one packet if you want to run more than one packet that is ok to 100:1 1 pk 50:1 2 pk 30:1 3 pk that is fine but you wouldn't void any warranty that i know of and i running 100:1 in all my engines i have one 20cc one 30cc two 50cc one 100cc ???????? no problems????????????


Thank you amsoilj


why does it say message edited by amsoilj? i thought only mods could edit other peoples posts

*edit... it didnt come out on the quote... but if you look in the original post it does

bgw45 07-11-2012 03:27 AM

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There must have been moderator involvement as the OP's user name has been changed.

Truckracer 07-11-2012 03:30 AM

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Quote:

ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie

Quote:

ORIGINAL: jloftin

you can run the proper ration if you like The AMSOIL article is saying that the product is so good you can run just one packet if you want to run more than one packet that is ok to 100:1 1 pk 50:1 2 pk 30:1 3 pk that is fine but you wouldn't void any warranty that i know of and i running 100:1 in all my engines i have one 20cc one 30cc two 50cc one 100cc ???????? no problems????????????


Thank you amsoilj


why does it say message edited by amsoilj? i thought only mods could edit other peoples posts

*edit... it didnt come out on the quote... but if you look in the original post it does
When the OP first posted, he had a different user name.... amsoilj. Somehow after a few posts, that changed to jloftin.


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