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Old 07-27-2007, 12:26 PM
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Could someone please tell me that there is not such a rule that :"you can't have an engine turning over 32,000 rpms on the ground, and you can't say your airplane can go over 200 MPH" But only saying your plane is capible of 200mph?

OH an older man in is late 60s told me that " U can't tell people that your going over 200mph Because the AMA dosen't like seeing planes going that fast or w/e." The only limited 200mph rule that I know of only applies to the jets.

I told him that in F3D in USA is held at the AMA this year. If that was a rule, then they couldn't fly here in USA if you had AMA card.

If not an AMA card, you can do what you please if you make your own air field.


If there isn't a rule, could some please send me a link so I can prove to this guy hes wrong.

Thanks,
Kevin
Old 07-27-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default RE: AMA RULE for 200mph limit

One can hardly provide a link to a rule that does not exist.

Get your "Old Guy" to provide a link to the rule that he says does exist.

Ed S
Old 07-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default RE: AMA RULE for 200mph limit

You are correct that the 200 MPH rule only applies to Jets. The only other speedlimiting rule falls in to the "experimental" class where prop driven planes over 55 pounds are limited to "80 knots" or 92 MPH and jets are limited to either 200 or 140 MPH depending on pilot experiance
Old 07-27-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default RE: AMA RULE for 200mph limit

Q-40's with the new LS go over 200 in a small dive no sweat

I can do 199 in a dive all day with a SS , 175+ in level flight
Old 07-27-2007, 02:35 PM
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Could you give me a link I can print out to show that its proff?

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Old 07-27-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default RE: AMA RULE for 200mph limit

Here ya go...

http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/Memanual.PDF

In addition to the general membership manual, there's specialized safety codes for Combat, Racing and Jets...

http://www.modelaircraft.org/documents.aspx

Not to mention the competition regulations...

http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/compreg.aspx

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Hey Clark

Read para 6 page 14 you cheater. I may be the only legal racer out there.

Denis

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dj.. are you referring to the "builder of the model" rule?

From the first paragraph of the RC racing rules - thanks to a buddy of mine that reminded me to read the WHOLE thing! (I added the bold to the existing text, to highlight it)

AMA recognizes four classes of RC Pylon
Racing for US competition. All are intended for
multi-channel RC aircraft powered by
conventional 2-stroke glow engines. The task
consists of an ROG (rise-offground) takeoff (or,
in the case of 1/2A, a hand launch) followed by
left turns around a closed course marked out by
pylons. The builder-of-the-model rule does not
apply.


I wish it did, though..
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Denis,

Don't tell me you read that whole document and managed to pick that out... funny. Of course, you neglected the very first paragraph in the racing regulations which clearly read "the builder-of-the-model rule does not apply"...

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I only read what I want to. Specifically what suites me and my opinions I knew it didn't apply if for no other reason than Ed hadn't jumped all over it.

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I think we need a builder-of-the-engine rule. [sm=wink_smile.gif]
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as long as it's not a "winder of the rubber band" rule...

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Default RE: AMA RULE for 200mph limit

So your plane goes over 200mph, what could/would the AMA do about it?
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I'm being a bit cynical here- but the AMA would watch in amazement, wouldn't care, wouldn't know.......... we have a similar rule in NZ but it relates only to the recording of the speed over 200mph and the methodology used . We must use electronic timing equipment ie two radarguns, two electronic stopwatchs, etc.......trevor h nz
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ORIGINAL: Cambo

So your plane goes over 200mph, what could/would the AMA do about it?

Well you know how them old timers like to do when things don't go there way[:'(]......Well at least I do....

Anybody else here know what im talking about?
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Lol, No kiden
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Well you know how them old timers like to do when things don't go there way ......Well at least I do....

Anybody else here know what im talking about?
No actually, educate me.

Ed S
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ORIGINAL: Ed Smith

Well you know how them old timers like to do when things don't go there way ......Well at least I do....

Anybody else here know what im talking about?
No actually, educate me.

Ed S
Yeah, me too. What're you talking about speedman?
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ORIGINAL: js3


ORIGINAL: Ed Smith

Well you know how them old timers like to do when things don't go there way ......Well at least I do....

Anybody else here know what im talking about?
No actually, educate me.

Ed S
Yeah, me too. What're you talking about speedman?

Well lets see here.... Well 85% of 150 members at my field are older fokes....Hard butts if you know what I mean.
They like things to go there way all the time......

Most of the time your old fokes don't like[:'(] your 3d pple hovering over the runway touching the tail or me and dad making 200mph passes over the runway...

But I don't pay any attention....I juts mind my own busness and smile at them and Kill them with kindess and respect as God said for me to do. and you know what???? They can't touch me with there stiffness because God is on my side.

Kev Kev


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Well let me see. I'm 68 and probably qualify as an old timer. I do my hovering off to the side so as not to interfere with other fliers trying to use the runway. I also make my high speed runs on our pylon course rather than up and down the runway. I don't fly a pylon racer when others sport fliers are up because it is a little intimidating. You sound like your just paying lip service to kindness and respect. Ask your daddy to teach you what it really means.

Denis
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........Hard butts if you know what I mean.....
Again you will have to educate me.

I am 67 and one of the older club members. I have been Pylon Racing at all levels for the past 30 years. I practice at my club field. The other club members do not mind. I go out to practice first thing in the morning when nobody else is around so that I do not interfere with the majority of sport fliers.

It is called consideration for others. Maybe you should try it sometime.

Ed S

P.S. Did you ever figure out the complexity of the bladder tank?

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since when did God give u the right to judge me...........Ok then.....

We don't have pple to have enough favor in pylon racing so we don't have a course...... Most of the time noone flies anyway when me or dad fly because we are the entertainment. I respect everyone there as I would want to be respected the same way.....

Now i didn't mean to give the wrong image...Sorry i was doing other things at the same time i was typing that thread.....


Oh on the bladder tank....That was issue is over.....Mainly because the plane had a poor wing strenght and snaped into.... Flying in level flight too....I was mad when it happend too....
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ORIGINAL: Cambo

Lol, No kiden
He can educate u more...




Maybe the reason why you don't no is your in the speed planes ......The older fokes aren't in the speed planes at my field.

I can't fly at my field till 2pm because of the sun is always in your face.......

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ORIGINAL: djlyon

Well let me see. I'm 68 and probably qualify as an old timer. I do my hovering off to the side so as not to interfere with other fliers trying to use the runway. I also make my high speed runs on our pylon course rather than up and down the runway. I don't fly a pylon racer when others sport fliers are up because it is a little intimidating. You sound like your just paying lip service to kindness and respect. Ask your daddy to teach you what it really means.

Denis

our fliers only touch the tail on runway when noone else flies. Same goes for the high speed passes

Doesn't sound like it seems when your really there in person.
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Most of the time noone flies anyway when me or dad fly because we are the entertainment.
I've seen that at a lot of clubs - it's called running for cover.


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