H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
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H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
I currently have a H9 cap232 80" which by the way is a really nice looking plane but I can get my hands on a zdz40 for trade with some ducted fan stuff so I am wondering if that engine is good enough for this plane to do hovers, harriers, flat spins, waterfalls etc... and normal IMACC stuff.
I am new to this gas engine stuff so I am not sure how power full this ZDZ40 will be for this plane.
Let me know
Enjoy!
I am new to this gas engine stuff so I am not sure how power full this ZDZ40 will be for this plane.
Let me know
Enjoy!
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RE: H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
well i have a hangar 9 cap 80" and i personally love my taurus 52 cc gasser, the plane balanced perfectly with it. I would do it right and get a 50cc!!!!!
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so howmuch does your weigh?
I have one here a friend did - beautifulbut weighs 17.25 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!
the old smaller one was great with the 40 and I am sure yours is flying nicely with the 52 -the problem is LOW speed performance --it falleth
I have one here a friend did - beautifulbut weighs 17.25 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!
the old smaller one was great with the 40 and I am sure yours is flying nicely with the 52 -the problem is LOW speed performance --it falleth
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RE: H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
sparkplug,
It needs to be at least a rotory valve model. There are 4 of these Caps flying here with a ZDZ50NG (mine), older ZDZ50 (1300 rpm lower than the NG), ZDZ40RV and a Zenoah G42. The lowest performer is the G42 and the highest performer is the ZDZ50NG. The 40RV flyies very nicely.
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It needs to be at least a rotory valve model. There are 4 of these Caps flying here with a ZDZ50NG (mine), older ZDZ50 (1300 rpm lower than the NG), ZDZ40RV and a Zenoah G42. The lowest performer is the G42 and the highest performer is the ZDZ50NG. The 40RV flyies very nicely.
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RE: H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
Do a searh for Fishgod, he had this same setup. He liked it at first, but later decided it did not have enough power to do hovering and some IMAC stuff.
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I switched the ZDZ50 in my friend's plane -to my new ZDZNG and the performance increase was dramatic .
The big problem with the earlier ZDZ50 is not the engine as much as the muffler used.
The std Bisson used on a number of these - is quiet but is also restrictive - try th same muffler -on a DA 50 and it reduces power .
A goodZDZ 40 on a good open muffler or tuned setup will pull it just fine.
If using the non NG model 50 - get a open flow muffler or cut tips from the Bisson.
So far -we have seen nothing in the 50 size engine that compares with this new NG - on a free flowing muffler - keep it a bit rich in mid range (high speeed needle) -so that it can fully unload at WOT.
As for the CAP-- some were simply heavy in the rear end -- If you can balance the model without ballast - it will be about 16 lbs . If you are really careful and luck to have a light wood model -you may see mid 15 lbs.
The model does fly very well and is a real beauty.
It is simply dicey when power is pulled way back and you are doing low speed high angle of attack stuff.
The big problem with the earlier ZDZ50 is not the engine as much as the muffler used.
The std Bisson used on a number of these - is quiet but is also restrictive - try th same muffler -on a DA 50 and it reduces power .
A goodZDZ 40 on a good open muffler or tuned setup will pull it just fine.
If using the non NG model 50 - get a open flow muffler or cut tips from the Bisson.
So far -we have seen nothing in the 50 size engine that compares with this new NG - on a free flowing muffler - keep it a bit rich in mid range (high speeed needle) -so that it can fully unload at WOT.
As for the CAP-- some were simply heavy in the rear end -- If you can balance the model without ballast - it will be about 16 lbs . If you are really careful and luck to have a light wood model -you may see mid 15 lbs.
The model does fly very well and is a real beauty.
It is simply dicey when power is pulled way back and you are doing low speed high angle of attack stuff.
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RE: H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
The engine is the zdz 40 RV-L so I presume it's the better one. He said it was purchased about 8 months ago.
Dick Hanson:
When you say open muffler do you have any models in mind that would work with the ZDZ40. I hear people talk about the canister mufflers but how would they fit on the plane compared to the bisson for instance ?
Well so far the response is do the 50cc engine versus the 40cc.
Dick Hanson:
When you say open muffler do you have any models in mind that would work with the ZDZ40. I hear people talk about the canister mufflers but how would they fit on the plane compared to the bisson for instance ?
Well so far the response is do the 50cc engine versus the 40cc.
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RE: H9 80" cap232 and ZDZ40 info needed
I seen several ZDZ 60 to much over kill and I seen a ZDZ 40 plenty, so I ordered the plane and put my ZDZ-40 perfict. it depend on the person.I know this guy tell every body evey thing. but yet to put one back on three weels.
I made a good linkage to my choke very easy.
I made a good linkage to my choke very easy.