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Old 02-22-2004, 10:53 PM
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Default H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

Awesome Combo, light weight, and way over powered

New DA100, 11th flight on the vid, vertical is among the best I have ever seen.

Single 8611 per aileron

8611's on tail surfaces
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Old 02-22-2004, 11:11 PM
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WHAT!!! are you NUTZ trying to fly that plane on one aileron servo! It will never work!
Your gonna stop the earths rotation doing that...

LOL. Just trying to get that out of the way because you know someone is gonna say it..


Awesome video as usual John.
Old 02-22-2004, 11:12 PM
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Nice job John! Thing looks light. Is that a petes spinner?

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Old 02-22-2004, 11:13 PM
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HAHAAAA, I know it, it can be done, the earth must stop turning when I fly it, but its all good Wish the vid showed the insane vertical power, you cant really tell on there.

Thanks!
Old 02-22-2004, 11:16 PM
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Dont know what brand spinner it is, it was cheap thats why I put it on Oddly enough this is a budget bird
Old 02-22-2004, 11:23 PM
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How are the 8611s doing? Looks like a very very clean plane
Old 02-22-2004, 11:28 PM
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They ROCK, there TIGHT, I have 13 flights on it now, no flutter at full throttle, no sign of wear or fade yet. Only running 4.8v on this one too.

I went for super clean install on it, no BS inside.
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Old 02-22-2004, 11:35 PM
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Thats very very clean, you only used 1 servo per surface? Thats awesome, How did you do the wing mod? Doesnt it come cut out with 2 servos per aileron?
Old 02-22-2004, 11:37 PM
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Yeah, one 8611 per aileron, one per elevator half, and two on the rudder. I just covered over the factory two servo holes per wing as mine is in a totally different position than those. The wood around the servo pocket is just for the covering to stick to.
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Old 02-22-2004, 11:41 PM
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Hmm very cool man. I got to stick to the 2.6M composite arf[8D], I cant change my mind NO more lol. I just wish they could do a one aileron mod wing for people who want only one servo per wing half.
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Maybe they could? Those ailerons are strong enough it should be simple for them.
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I will have to ask them, would save some money for sure.
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Yeah, although not the reason I did it on this bird, it saved me almost $300, two servo's and a matchbox (JR thing, as I love JR)
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

i saw the 1 servoe per aleron last weekend and he wasnt being soft on it.....blenders rolling harriers....its working jsut fine. i duno if i would do it with anything less than an 8611......but dont listen to me i aint got a 1/3 scale....il shut up now. john
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

thanks for the vid and thread john.

im thinking about 1 8611 (or futaba/hitec equivelant) on each aileron and surface on H9 extra #2 as well. since its the single bay to start with. keep us posted if anything changes!

what aluminum arms did you use for them? H9 fit?
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

The only equivalent of the 8611 I can think of is the Futaba 9152, though I'm not sure how it compares in speed. If it performs like the 8611 then it would be an awesome servo.

John gave me a few minutes to wring this plane out today and all I can say is AWESOME! I can't believe how crisp it flies, and the video above does not do justice to the insane vertical this plane has. Just a perfect plane for crazy flying, lots of fun! I had to laugh at what Wayne said, I'm sure someone, somewhere, can mathematically prove that this setup won't work, but believe me, this thing rocks!
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

Ron, the 8611's take the same arms as the 8411's, so I used the H9 ones.
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

Ron, I had a single 8411 on my old H9 Extra ailerons, and they worked fine, but 8611s would be an ideal setup with the single servo position.
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

FWIW,

I am setting up a 35% Extra right now and it will have a single 8611 on all surfaces including the rudder.
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

ORIGINAL: Flyfalcons

The only equivalent of the 8611 I can think of is the Futaba 9152, though I'm not sure how it compares in speed. If it performs like the 8611 then it would be an awesome servo.
I've got the Futaba 9152 on the rudder of my WH 330 (everyone was out of stock on the JR 8611). According to specs, at 6 volts, it it very slightly stronger (277 vs. 266 oz.in) but also very slightly slower (.19 vs. .16). It also is a bit larger than the 8611 servo, and has a slightly larger (and stronger) gear train. Both cost about the same money.

In the air, performance wise, I doubt I'd be able to notice the speed difference. I'm VERY pleased with the Futaba servo's performance on the rudder of my Extra.
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

John,
You said you are running 4.8? Why not 6v? I'd love to make a setup like that on a 33%. Your right about the $$.
Here are some pictures of my new cap.
http://homepage.mac.com/joekelley/PhotoAlbum53.html

Joe !~)
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

The first versions of the H9 1/3 birds had some problems when the owners used single servos .
I blame the owner builders - but that's another story.
We have used a single 8411 0n all of our 1/3 H9 models - till the present one - and we decided to try the double 8411 .
The single worked perfectly -tho I did add a lead counterbalance at the root of the aileron- just for insurance -
If you are on a tight budget - try 2, 811 digitals - that also works extremely well .
We mix and match all JR servos - the servo speed means nothing - as long as the two ganged servos TRACK the same -you can mix a 811 with a 8411 -or a 4721 with a 8611 etc.
The servos operate under a load so the difference in rated speed never enters the picture.
I never mix JR with other brands tho -
That may be ok but we found some servo brands/types, changed range readings.
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

Yep, knew that:thumbup: How close is it?
ORIGINAL: wgeffon

FWIW,

I am setting up a 35% Extra right now and it will have a single 8611 on all surfaces including the rudder.
Old 02-23-2004, 11:12 AM
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

I hope to have it flying by the end of March.
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Default RE: Vid of my New H9 Cap 33% with single 8611 aileron servo's

Cool, I thought a pair of 8611's on the rudder would be way overkill, and it is, but man its got power.


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