Jaketab

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The reason for wanting stock landing gear is that the plane (30% SD Model) is tail heavy even with all batteries on the motor box. The stock gear would do just fine for the weight. I would be willing to pay reasonal sum.

Thanks - Jaketab

LearnedInUk

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Might be better with weight added vs using the stock LG.

But best of luck finding one. I got rid of mine after 2 flights and I am pretty sure I trashed it but i will look. It just bent too much.

flyfish

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JAKETAB

I have I stock new set of gear! I have a new in box team plane that I am about to start to build. This will be my first gasser. I am thinking of getting the carbon gear. PM me with am offer for the stock gear.
Thanks
Adam

MIXMASTER

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My stock gear seems to be strong enough, about 40 flights & one "unscheduled" harrier landing last night from a hovering tail touch. I came close to a mishap, but it ended up one cool landing, not even a prop strike. How come you never have a video camera running when the lucky stuff happens??!! Next on the menu: EF 88" Yak maiden for a friend, this should be interesting to say the least, I've been flying his Deitrich Extra 260 50cc, not the greatist 3-D'er, but with a little tweaking, its getting-R-done.

Vacaman

Hey Mix, report that EF Yak maiden. Would be great to know the diferences betwen the SD and EF.
About the stock gear, it´s just fine, strong for the job, but i like better the SD carbon LG, lighter and good looking.

Jaketab

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Thanks all,

For replies about the gear. I overcame my cheap side and broke down and ordered a CF gear from Grap Tech yesterday.
Was about $55 + shipping.
Yes, although it seemed flemsy, the stock gear worked just fine.

Caution when building the SD/TOC Yak. They come out tail heavy.

Jaketab

OldRookie

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How many of you crossed the pull pull wires to the rudder?
I have been debating over crossed or not.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages to either way?
I haven't bought my rudder servo arm yet. I was thinking on the 3" or 3-1/2" SWB Double-Loc servo arm for this. Straight arm for straight back, offset arm for crossed wire set up.
Have any of you tried the SWB Pull Pull Wire Tensioners?

Greg

TESANBORN

JAKETAB THERE IS ONLY A 2.3OZ DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CARBON FIBER AND THE STOCK ALUMINUM GEAR. I WEIGHED THEM BOTH YESTERDAY. I DOUBLED THE THE SIDES ON THE ENGINE BOX ON MINE AND GLASSES ALL THE CORNERS. AS IT WAS SO THIN IT WAS SCARY. I PUT MY BATTERIES ON THE ENGINE BOX BALANCED NO PROBLEM. I KNOW EVERY OUNCE HELPS BUT YOU WOULDN'T GAIN THAT MUCH.
FLY HIGH!
EDWARD

Jaketab

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Might just have to add the wheel pants to show off the carbon fiber gear.

On the pull pull wires, I believe most have crossed them on this plane. Had to elongate the exit holes. Moved the rudder servo far forward as possible for balance. A 3" rudder servo arm seems plenty for my flying style. Whether or not to offset depends on where the rudder control arms are located in reference to the rudder hinge line.

Jaketab

whitedog4491

OldRookie you may have seen this already. If not it may answer your ?s.

http://swbmfg.com/rudex.html

OldRookie

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whitedog,

Yes that is the one I was referring to.
I would be doing example B. This seems like it would need the smallest size opening, and if set up right, should keep both cables tight.
Just posted the question here because it pertains to the specific model I am setting up. Just looking for feed back on specific items.

Thanks for the reply,
Greg

whitedog4491

I also did "B" on a 33% toc yak. I had a problem with my cables going slack ( not the one being pulled on) I went with the SWB 3 1/2 offset servo arm and ended up making a double truss horn for the rudder and now the tension is the same regardless or the rudder position.

MIXMASTER

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I also went with SWB 3" off set arm & crossed wires, this seemed best for a straight shot to the rudder w/o any chaffing thru the cut-outs. Where are the 33% TOC-E Yaks?????? None available at TBM???
EF 88" Yak: I will definately make a post as soon as I get my hands on it, if it is as good as they are saying, I might not give it back to the owner! I suspect the TOC-E/SD models are not getting the attention they deserve, but we'll see.

whitedog4491

Heres the yaks http://www.acehobby.com/ace/tt_toc.htm In the above post I said that I used the 3 1/5 servo asrm but I used the 4 inch but did not use the outer most holes.

MIXMASTER

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They have the same scheme as SD/TOC-E, I wonder if they are the same build. I noticed that QQ has 101" Yak (32% ) for DA85, its a bit pricy($999.00), but from what I have seen here, they fly very well. Magic Hand 102" Yak built specifically for DA85 too, also at TBM, its almost a 35%!!!

MIXMASTER

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With the latest Yak 33-35% offerings, the line between 33% & 35% is blurred. I wonder if you could get by on the smaller 33% with only 1 HS5955 per surface and a single receiver? I'm talking about the 95-97" wing Yaks. The larger ones(101-103" ) have 4 aileron servo bays, 1 for rudd & 2 for elevator, would that require power box, dual receivers?

bob_nj

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I used one receiver in my 40% Extra and Cap without a hitch.
On those planes, I used a powerbox like the one AI supplies and I like them a lot.

On my QQ Yak (35%) I still use one receiver.
The person I got this plane from used matchboxes on the wings.

I had a 35% Edge that used one aileron servo per wing, and although it worked fine, I didn't care
for the fact that it beat up the servo pretty bad.

So, if your receiver has enough channels to spare, and your radio has a mix like JR uses (point mix), which is like a matchbox
but in you radio, you're all set!!

Order it NOW...

MIXMASTER

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I'm going flying now, we'll deal with it later. I was hoping to get into 33% w/o power boxes, dual rcv & 7 servos, would save a bunch of $$$$$. I could use 2 batts with fail over switch,we'll talk about it next time at the field.

Vacaman

I builded a 34% colombo extra, with single 5955 in ailerons and elevators, and a jr9711 on rudder. A spektrum 9100 rx with a single A123 batt. Coupled with a DA85 the final weight is 21lbs and the performance is just awesome.
You don´t need a power box for a 33-35% airframe just plug the batts in 2 or 3 channels. If you use hitec servo, they can be programed to match each other.
A fellow club member have a 33 sd yak with this setup and works great. Lots of hard 3d.

Barry Cazier

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Mixmaster...
You may want to think about the H9 Sukhoi. It's a very nice flying airplane (I have the Wild Hare 35% version). They fly at least as good as a Yak and Chief Aircraft has a great special going on for them right now. Airplane, DA85, muffler and 6 servos. $2295.00. Hard to beat that. I use single servo ailerons on mine. Works great. I use the JR 8711 on the rudder but the HiTec 5955 on everything else, except the throttle. I use a Futaba S9001 on that. I use two radio batteries which plug independently into the receiver. I only use one ignition battery. Mine is the best flying airplane I have. Could be because it's the biggest I have also, but certainly the Sukhoi is great flying plane. But the H-9 would fit your requirements and would be a great flying plane and the Chief price is excellent.
Here's a link.
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin.../H9SU26MM.html

Thanks
Barry

MIXMASTER

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Thanks for the input, I had a smaller Goldberg Sukhoi,72" wing, back then I was barely able to hover,harrier, so I didnt explore its full potential. After I sold it, I then realized what I "had". I have time to sort it all out, the plane, # of servos power box. I dont even know exactly what the power box does for you, if you still have all the servo extensions plugged into the rvc, then doesnt the "total current" still flow thru the rcv????

bob_nj

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If you use dual aileron servos, you won't have enough rx channels to plug all the servo extensions into.
That's one thing the powebox does for you.
It usually has four slots per channel to plug extensions in.

The other thing it does is regulate to a steady 6 volts, and amplify the signal to each servo.
I can only speak for the powerbox I have used for years > http://www.modellbau-deutsch.com/e/p...tion/start.php

It has a switch that will fail in the "on" position if it fails, and the lights are an excellent indicator
of battery level.
The "snitch" function will tell you the largest amp draw during the flight, and there are
indicator lights that can be mounted on the outside of the plane that will blink if there's a problem.

Do keep in mind though, that my other 35% is set up very simple.
One Rx, one Rx battery, and two matchboxes for the dual wing servos.

This works fine and negates the need for a powerbox if set up and managed properly.

waynemia

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What keeps the wires from rubbing against each other when crossed? I would think this could be an issue.

MIXMASTER

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To Bobnj: I just came back from TBM, they say that for 100cc & less, you dont need a power box, they do recommend an MPI Miracle switch & 2 batts though. I have an e-mail out to Futaba asking if 7 Hi-torque servos is too much, hopefully they will give some detaild specs on current limitations. I dont want to push the limits, but if its not really needed, why spend?? I read a post here about one guy who just runs the signal wire to most rcv channels, he did run 2 channels to the rcv with all 3 wires, the other channels only have one signal wire, power & return for those channels goes to a regulator/sw/batt output. Think that works???
To Waynemia: I let them touch, they are coated with a clear material, have never noticed any signs of wearing thru so far, friction must be very little IMO.

bob_nj

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I slip a piece of real thin plastic tubing over one wire so there isn't any illicit rubbing going on back there [X(]