vatechguy3

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also, can someone confirm the length and wingspan for me. according to tower the length is 94" and the wingspan is 90".
also, is there one or 2 servos in the wing. if only one, can you add a second??

petergordon

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The wingspan is 90" but the fuse length is closer to 84". I've called Lanier about this, as it's posted everywhere that it's a 94" fuse, and it is scaring some people away from the airplane cause it doesn't seem scale.
The covering IS Ultracote, not Monokote.

And there is only one opening in the wing for one servo aside. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to put in another if you must. I'm using 5625's and I'm not too worried about it.

Peter

ROGER RUSSELL

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akflyer:
Looking at your pictures from your first 540 and noticed you might have a soft drink in your right hand.
After a wreck like that I would be taking it straight from what is in your left hand. (LOL) not unless you arer using your right hand as a chaser (LOL).
I PM'ed you once about this plane and been saving up to get one and all the goodys that go with it.
RORO

akflyer

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vatechguy3

The 30 % is a "T" and the fuse is 84". I am told the wing is a 32% with the tips cut off. The cord is wider than other 30% hence a little more stable in the harriers etc... There were a few designer "liberties" taken with this plane but they were all for the good as far as I am concerned. There is only one servo per aileron but there no need for another unless you just want the redundancy.

davham

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Just starting the engine mounting on mine. So far so good, haven't found a single thing wrong with this plane other than the fact that Lanier was so kind as to leave out the wing attachment bolts. All up wieght minus fuel should be arround 20 1/2 lbs (+/-)according to the digital scale. ZDZ80 should be wild.


Dave

akflyer

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DAVHAM:

What batteries etc. are you using ???? All three of the planes with ZDZ 60's we have had came in at 22-23 1/2 depending on batteries used. They were from the first production run so maybe they are building them lighter now ???? It should be a ROCKET with the 80 !!!!! I might be just a little jealous lol. I am sure you will love the way it fly's.

davham

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OOPS

I was supposed to type "All up weight minus cowl, wheel pants, and spinner" . Sorry for the jealousy might be safe to add another 1 1/2 lbs. I'll wait until its fully assembled before posting anymore weight.
I will use a 1300 4.8 for ign and a 17000 6.0 on rx.

Dave

BAS

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Dave sounds like you finally have a winner here with the Lanier still waiting for a reply back on the other issues we have been discussing private. He received the plane Friday havent heard anything else. By the way are you using nimh packs or nicads??

Steve

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akflyer;
Did you have to add any nose weight to the plane with the ZDZ 60 on board?

Steve

akflyer

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originally I put 2.5 pounds on the motor box to get it to the middle of the CG range given. After three flights I moved the batteries to the motor box and took the lead out. This put the CG ~ 3/4" behind the recomended CG range. Plane still flys fine with no bad habits on landing or slow flight but the routines are not quite as solid.

My motor is mounted on 3/4" X 1 3/4" ? (I think thast is how long they are) hard wood dowles to get the stand off for the rear carb.

RORO
That is a frozen mug and it aint got pepsi in it !!!!

davham

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Bas,

Looking forward to getting this thing finished. I will be using nicads on the edge. I'm still waiting for the new DA50 for the H9 80in cap. It is however, unfortunate for both of us on the other plane as I really would liked to have had one.
Keep in touch.

Dave

BigBirdFlyer

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AKFLYER
What caused the crash that destroyed your plane? Looks like it hit pretty hard.
Did you move all of your batteries up front.

akflyer

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Tourist with a 100 watt booster on his CB about 600 yards away from us. After my plane took a little trip through the trees spinning wide open, we turned on the frequency scanner and could hear him talking on ALL the channels. There is a temporary RV parking area at the far end of the airport we fly at and that is were he was at.

I had all the batteries velcro'd / zip tied to the stand off dowels on the engine.
On my second plane I only used one 5645 on the rudder instead of two so that took 2.oz out of the tail. This let me put the batteries on the motor box and not out on the stand offs. I am right at the back of the recommended CG range now.

BigBirdFlyer

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You should always have at least 12 inches between your (engine, electronic ignition, ign. battery and ign switch) and anything else (Your receiver, rec. battery, rec. switch, any servos, smoke pump and etc).
Any thing that connects to the receiver can (and will) pick up RFI from the ignition if it is closer than 12". I have seen more than one crash because of this.

Barts

I do not want to sound rude. I just want to understand. I have mounted many batteries on engine boxes of many different giant scale planes for cg purposes(not on the engine standoffs but still, it's close enough). I have never had any issues with this ever. I don't see how the engine or the ignition would induce any type of rf interference with the battery or the receiver. Neither one of these sources resonate at the same frequency. Even if they were, it would not be consistent. And if they were at the same frequency for an extended period of time, 12 inches would not be enough space to allow each individual rf signal to disperese. But, let me qualify this by saying that I started out studying electrical engineering at Ohio State and ended up graduating with a nuclear engineering degree so what do I know.
Please Help!!

And off the subject,

AKflyer, those pictures of you and your dead soldier were quite comical. I would need some massive amounts of spirited beverages to help me over some idiot with a CB killing my 540t.

Barts

akflyer

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The paper work with the Falcon Ignition said 6 " between the ignition system and any batteries or servos, but I do not like to add lead so I put it closer and did LOTS of ground testing before flying and never had a glitch. I have done the same thing with a G38 and it does not even have a shielded ignition. This is not to say that it cant happen, I just have not had it happen to me in the last 23 years. I spose I would have blamed it on the ignition if we had not had the scanner there to point us in another direction.

Barts, I have the other half trained well, I came home witht he pieces, and as I was unloading them she slipped out without a word and came back from the store with two fifths in her hand......

HOTRODJOHN

AK FLYER, Im building one of these, I understand the 60 has enough power but if you had your druthers would you use a zdz80 over the zdz60?? What do you guys think of a 3W75.. there on sale for 555, but the zdz80 has more power to weight. Did you say you had to add 2.5 pounds of lead with the zdz60...

akflyer

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I originally had the lead in it to get the CG to the middle of the recommended range. After I flew it a few times and called Lanier (who said it was a very conservative CG range) I took out the lead and moved the batteries to the stand offs for the engine. This put me behind the max recommended CG but it flys fine with no bad habits. I won't be home till the 24th to measure and look at my notes, but the best I remember the farthest aft I flew it was 1 1/4" behind the recommended and am now right at or just a little behind the recommended for IMAC routines. For all out 3D I would go back further a LITTLE AT A TIME till it reached the point of being uncontrolable, then, after the crash, order a new one and make sure I did not go that far back this time

As to the 60 versus 80, I would be interested to fly it with the 80 but, I can hover and pull out fine with the 60. The 80 would make it a rocket. As to the 3W I cant say, but if it will swing a 24X10 around 6,200-6,300 then I would say it will be fine, again, I am at sea level and low temperature / humidity, and that makes ALOT of difference.

Three

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Hotrodjohn,

If you go with the 3w-75 make sure it's the 3w-75i, not the 3w-75ius(that one is $555). I made the mistake of getting the "ius"(side mount carb) and while fitting the cowl I realized about half of the carb would stick out of the cowling at the front side. Fortunately Aircraft International let me return the motor for the 3w-75i(rear induction). Cowl is fitted and looks great.

HOTRODJOHN

THREE, hows the power of the 3W because Im interested in 3d with this plane.... what prop and what rpm are you getting...thanks for the pic...

davham

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Almost finished with this thing, I have a few hours of work left to do. My firewall/engine mounting ordeal came out very well, just had to tilt the cowl down 1/8 in. 2 degrees right does not seem to match the right angel built into the cowl nose. No big deal though. With a ZDZ80, the big 26X10 prop looks good hanging of the nose. This is a really nice plane, the more I work on it the more I like it. I will post pics of my engine/gear installation and final dry weight when finished.

Dave

chris540

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Dave what muffler did you use with your zdc 80.
Have the same plane -motor and cant decide on a muffler

thanks

petergordon

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I'm using a zdz80 with a bisson inverted wrap around pitts muffler. Using engine stand-offs of 2.5" long the muffler clears the engine box without having to cut anything. I haven't run the motor in the plane yet, not ready for that. I'm wondering if mounting the carb behind the firewall (and in still air) actually makes a difference?

Did anyone else find these things wrong with the plane?
1- aileron hinge holes drilled at wrong angle to hinge line
2- 3.5" wheels supplied with 4" wheel hole openings in wheel pants
3- some missing hardware (odd bolts)
4- no wing nuts supplied to hold wings on (the required nut is metric 8 - 1.25)

I'm not complaining, the kit is great! Just some findings.

Peter

akflyer

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If you are flying off pavement then I would not use the wheels supplied.... They wont last long and the hub likes to break. Get some skylights or dave browns or anything other than those supplied. Also DO NOT use the supplied axles or you will be recovering the wing tips after the axle pulls out of the pressed in threads.

Three

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Hotrodjohn............I have'nt finished the plane yet and have'nt run the motor. Aircraft International told me to use a 24x10 for break-in. After that I'll try a 26x10. BTW, That's a Johnson pitts muffler.

petergordon..........I got 3.5 wheels too. I'm gonna use a better set of 3.5s that I already had......I did'nt get the wing nuts either so I made a couple of aluminum knobs and I replaced some of the other bolts I did'nt like.