50%plane

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It cares if it starts eating dirt.

Ryan Nau

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yep, that would even be better yet. the 2 bests, DA and Futaba!

ICE_MAN

^^ Agreed

funflyphil

i know this will not affect the old time flyers who are set to one company and swear by it, but what i think this could concern is hewbies to gas engines....

i mean, if thers a flyer who is looking for a really good gas engine, and doesnt know what company to buy, naturally they will look at what the best are flying.....

then they look at the top ten aerobatic pilots in the world are flying, and you see 7-9 out of 10 flying DA, thats pretty convincing.......



just my .02,



p.s. i buy whatever i can find cheaper, 3W or DA.....

T. Bob

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I would be interested in if a big shot like Quigue gets paid from someone like DA.
Or is it just free stuff. ie DA 200
IMO it can't be much they are just not enough of people in this hobby in that size of a plane.
How many DAs have been sold?
I'm sure with the addition of the 50cc it's probably doubled but I would think a three - four thousand units worldwide total.
What ever the number I'm sure 3W is double, they've been around longer and have a larger inventory.

flyinrazrback

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JSM, if you go with the full lenght tuned pipes, aka 1090s, I can tell you that a 3w 150 on them rocks! 5950 on the 3w 3D prop with only 6 gallons through the motor. Transition is wicked fast and gobs of power. I want to try a 157 on full pipes. Its been my experience that a DA on full pipes is on par with a QS without.

LSP972

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Mr. Somenzini is an employee of Horizon Hobbies, last I heard. He's paid to fly JR radios and promote Horizon (i.e., Hangar 9, etc.) wares. No doubt he is being compensated by DA for the use of his name; but why worry about the method/amount of compensation?

I am constantly amazed at those who put so much credibility into who is "flying" what. A quick look at the big names will tell you that most of them go where the deal is sweetest, and will "jump ship" in a heartbeat if it is in their best interest. FWIW, Mr. Somenzini was a fully-sponsored Futaba pilot until Horizon offered him full time employment on HIS terms... but there are those who really believe that JR radios MUST be better than Futaba, just because their hero switched...

After almost 20 years of flying glow engines, I will be getting a 50cc gasser and matching airplane. I have no clue which brand of either to get, right now. I'm doing lots of reading, and you can bet the grocery money that I WON'T be influenced by whatever name flyer is endorsing this week.

Still, there's no denying that name recognition sells merchandise. Just goes to show all of the relative newcomers in this hobby; the old heads have better sense...

Aerohead

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Gasser newbies should be taking a close look at what and why the guys at their local flying field are using. Those guys are not getting paid to endorse engines. They just fly what works best for them. Making a decision based on what the RC gods recommend is sheer folly.

twist2

Chip Hyde told me, sponsorship is not completely free, he told me here on RCU when i asked him, if I should switch to JR, and Chip told me he belives futaba is better and is the best.

Josey Wales

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LOL!

olstoney

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Hey Joe,
Looks like the troll has jumped over to this thread now.

jsm77777

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flyinrazorback, I agree, the DA on pipes is equal to the 3W on cannisters. Maybe the pipes do a better job with throttle transition than the cannisters. I am partial to 3W, and will more than likely continue with them, and buy the new 157, and install K&S pipes on it. DA's are nice, but are lower on power, and I think they have an inferior ignition than 3W. My old TOC 150's I had back in 2000 turned a Mejlik 30X10 prop with regular mufflers at 6600 RPM out of the box, and in the most recent issue of 3D flyer the DA on the same set-up and prop was 6100. My new QS 150 is even stronger than my old 150, and the 157 stronger yet. DA's do have great service, but I've had no reason to complain the 2 times I needed service from Gerhard in the past 7 years. Scott

Josey Wales

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YEP[8D]

twist2

I can say that JR doesnt have a good falp system even though I dont use flaps, cause JR has a stupid switch instead of knob for flaps, so you can't really adjust them "linearally" , but they do at least have something called flap trim, which futaba does not, and JR is known for their warranty is 3 times longer than futaba's 1 year (JR is 3 years) and JR is known for a better feel to them, and Mike McConville said if their was no affiliations with JR, he would still use it, but Chip used to fly for JR too, and quique used to fly for Futaba, so all in all, JR might be better, but its jsut so hard for a 15 yr. old to decide what radio he wants, Futaba 14MZ (lol expensive, but nice) JR 10X (more reasonable) JR 9303 (looks very good) or Futaba 9CAP (its getting old, and Futaba will probably replace it soon) but, i wouldnt need something like the 10X or 14MZ, cause im not into unlimited IMAC yet, not in IMAC yet, but want to, and if I get sponsored someday, I will want another radio buy then, and the technology will change by then. Well, it seems the "troll" has stopped being the "troll" and I understand this RCU. Cheers, Ken AKA: BARCC, EFYAK, and twist2 thanks everybody!!

Josey Wales

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OH my god!!!![X(]

you guys were all the SAME PERSON!!

twist2

yup, oh yeah, and I left out O.S. Master also, that was the 1st name of mine so thast 4 all together

Diablo-RCU

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I'd be more impressed if QQ exclusively flew a Zenoah G62.....

Now that Horizon has MVVS Evolution gassers, QQ might get a competitive motor in-house in the near future.

quist

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if you are going to compare 2 engines you have to do it side by side with the same conditions and equipment. There is also more to an engine the Max rpm's. You are the first person I have ever heard say that 3w has a better ignition.

flyinrazrback

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The new ignitions rated for 8.4v are pretty top notch. I loved my DAs in the past and would own another one in a heartbeat for certain conditions, a 35% that weighs 25lbs or less would go with a DA no prob, over that weight a 106. 40% under 37lbs a DA 150 would do the job fine, over that weight a 150 or 157 3W. I just dont like marginal power on the bigger heavier airplanes.

Bob101

Pure comedy gold. Timing couldn't be better.

http://www.airtronics.net/

"Chip Hyde - joins team Airtronics"

50%plane

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They just brought out the 9C Super.

cbk07

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Must be to make room for Quique on Team Futaba!!

jsm77777

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The engines were compared side by side, same prop 30X10 Mejlik, and same mufflers (stock). DA's are nice, but not on par wth the 3W's in terms of power. Both are smooth and reliable. 3W's ignition is WAY superior to DA's, as you can run a 2 cell lithium battery without the need for a regulator. They also have a few other nice features. I fly with a friend who has a DA-150, nice engine, but weaker on power. Both the 3W and DA have plenty of power for these planes, but numbers don't lie. Scott

jongurley

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He has been with Airtronics under the table since before JOENALL<,

rmh

Please retitle this thread :
Ladies Bridge Club