olstoney

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[quote]ORIGINAL: twist2

Chip Hyde told me, sponsorship is not completely free, he told me here on RCU when i asked him, if I should switch to JR, and Chip told me he belives futaba is better and is the best.

YOU LIE

twist2

he did!! jackass, i sent him a PM asking him what radio i should buy, now dont restart the troll again, me and my other 3 user names will not tolerate it lol. I can't believe you chip, so am I supposed to belive you now?

Jim Flannigan

hey Twist,
I thought you were "Buds" with M McConville? And JR was the "Right Stuff"!

I also see that you are showing your true colors yet again. See you soon under yet another ID.

T. Bob

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I'm not sure where this thread went.

But this is what I have learned

1. Chip Hyde flys for Airtroniics
2. Futaba is the best
3. JR is the best.
4. This Twist2 guy is from another planet
5. 3W guys are way too defensive.
6. I'm looking forward to a QQ G-62 (hopefully with a red head that would be swell)
7. And most importantly I should never again post a D/A or 3W thread again.

I just thought Quique changing companies was news.

olstoney

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Good One Jim.

lewdfinger

First I switch to DA, then QuiQue? I don't think this is a coincidence. I have more influence in this hobby than I thought.

Seriously though, he's my hero because he's such a gentleman. Don't care what he flys because it always looks soooo good.

KD

twist2

how come everytime i post it seems to disappear when i go back to check it?

olstoney

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O.K. Guys,
LEWDFINGER displays on my inbox as TWIST2. Can't a moderator step in and do something about this constantly name changing troll? Getting sick of this jerk[sm=drowning.gif].

onewasp

Right on again Dick,

I had similar thoughts-------but yours are much more socially acceptable than were mine.

50%plane

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You must be a JR owner.

bubbagates

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Everyone,

It has been handled and I am asking that the thread get back on track. Thanks to those of you that have opened tickets by using the report link in the lower right of each post.

When that kind of thing is used we see it faster and can respond better.

I am going through the thread right now to clean it up.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled debate

jongurley

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The power difference between 3w and DA must not be that far apart if QUEQUE switched to DA. If he runs DA now than there must not be any noticable power depletion, being a world champ and competitor he would not switch to a engine that would give away power... and I am not talking about the DA200 that is a prototype, I am talking about his DA 150's that will replace his own signature series motors from 3W

50%plane

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Is it definate that QQ has switched? I haven't read on this thread that he had.

jsm77777

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There IS a power difference between 3W and DA. I fly with a friend that has a DA, and my 3W has much more power. Like I posted before, there is at least a 500 RPM difference between the 3W 150 over the DA. It's a fact, I've seen it for real. QQ can switch to DA, and it's no big deal either way. He is only switching for money, and it's his own decision, and of no matter with most of us. Both 3W and DA make a great product, and you won't be sorry with either, but the 3W's have a substantial power advantage. Scott

jmiracle

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No they don't.





(........running like hell!)

jsm77777

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This is my last post on this. FACT my old TOC 150's 30X10 Mejlik, stock mufflers were 6500 to 6600 RPM out of the box (had 2). The DA 150 in a 3D Flyer test report was 6100 RPM out of the box, same mufflers and prop. My 32X10 Mejlik on those engines was 6100RPM. That's more power. Sorry to the DA faithful, but numbers don't lie. My 3W TOC 100 outurned the DA also, and now the 106 is even stronger. My QQ series 150 is stronger than my old 150's, and that new 157 should be a monster. If you want DA, buy it and enjoy, or buy 3W and enjoy also. Just because the DA faithful are brand loyal, doesn't make them the ONLY choice. Scott

Flyfalcons

My engine can beat up your engine.

jmiracle

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so all I got out of this "fact" is the DA needed a little tuning....that and like someone else already said, the 3W guys seem just a bit overly defensive.

and fwiw, I personally own both da and 3w.....and just haven't seen much difference.

jmiracle

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LOL...thank you....couldn't have said it better myself.

flyinrazrback

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Jm, how much time on your 3Ws? they dont reach full potential until 15-20 gallons, most people sell them by now. I am stating what I have noticed first had. I have had a 110, 106, and the DA. I find the 106 to be the strongest (not only on the ground, but in the air....how the prop unloads), the 110 second strongest and a couple hundred rpm better than the DA, and then the DA which is still a very strong motor. Took a 27x10 P-Tip on my DA which was well broken in, and it was fairly loud on the ground and the air. Took exact same prop and put on a 106 and it ripped it so hard that everyone complained. The 3w 150 is about 300-400 rpm better than the DA, 300-400 doesnt sound like much but on a 32" prop it is a lot. I am not going to mention DA customer service, everyone knows its the best, not going to question it, but, you find me a DA 100 or 150 that will pull harder than my 3ws, I will give them to you. Would I buy another DA? Absolutely! I cant wait to see what they come out with to match up with the 3W 157. They need to, because the really big airplanes like the 3.3 yak, TOC 40% Yak, etc, suffer from a 150 and need that extra punch, so hope they do come out with a good one. Rumors have it a 164cc twin, and an 82cc single, which would rock in the 33% airplanes. I would like to do a DA/3W challenge, build 2 identical planes, exactly, one with a DA, other with a 3W, and let people fly the planes without knowing which has which motor, and then let them decide which they thought performed better, then show them what was under the hood.

olstoney

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This has really been an interesting forum to follow. Problem is I could in no way shape or form ever be able to afford one of these engines. Some of you guys talk about owning three or four of them. So much for being a disabled veteran living on a fixed income (Another federal project showing your tax dollar at work). If anyone has a crappy one that they are not happy with or in need of a rebuild that they wish to donate I could probably afford the rebuilding cost. Sometimes it amazes me what some people can invest into our hobby. That being said, at the present time I'm scratching my ***** to figure out how to be able to find a nice 50cc engine that I can afford. Never mind, my Jim Beam has gotten the best of me tonite.

mglavin

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I own several DA's and 3W's. I don't have a lick of trouble with any of them for the most part. Of course I know how to tune them and have an ear for a sour note on up-lines too and I don't man-handle the little bolts and understand that cooling is an issue. I also respect the colossal investment the oil manufacturers have made in R&D, no special witches brews for me...

There is notable difference in power with 3W on top IMO. You can tune to your hearts content and it will still exist on like equipped engines. The simply reason is the porting and cylinder head design differ and I'm sure mechanical tolerance variables have some effect too.

That said, try this take a 3W 3D prop and put on your DA, nuff said!

Are the current generation 150's adequate for most of our 40% models, YEAH... Does it really matter if one swings a few hundred rpm more than another, NOT. How many of you guys fly at full throttle all the time?

flyinrazrback

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well put MGLAVIN, I sure do like the sound of that 3w 3d prop at 5950! and the motor isnt broken in yet

jclittle

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I have both a 3W 100 and DA 100, I thought both were really good until I statred seeing all the press in this forum. Thanks to all those in this debate, I know I should get rid of both, buy a cox .046 for my 35% planes and just take the wheel pants off because lighter flies better! Get a grip people, think about what you are arguing about.

japan3d

At least no one mentioned a DA in a Comp-Arf yet!!