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Old 10-25-2006, 12:58 AM
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Hey Nitro! I see you got to see max with that plane, I seen it when it was almost rtf.. and have flown with max at the field.. come down and fly with us some day www.bellairflyers.com

btw, bigger is better, if you can transport a 100cc, get it. I got a trailer as I got tired of loading planes in and out of my truck.. that said, I used to transport my 33% H9 Sukhoi with the tailgate down all the time down the freeway, no problem. I have also seen a 40% carden in a ford explorer, so it depends on your dedication. Good luck!
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Thanks I'll take you up on that
Too bad Max moved away,pretty well the only pilot we had that would fly DOD with a gasser.I learned a bit from him and used to look up to him,Good guy [8D]
My field is nice,but small membership with no real experienced giant scale guys,so I'll have to learn from here
Old 10-25-2006, 11:58 PM
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DOD with gassers? Thats our specialty man!!





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Here is a pic from this last weekends flyin,, as far as 3d goes there is nothing better, funnier, and cheaper than a 50cc, this is my wildhare extra with DA50,, I can torque roll it with the rudder 6 inches off the ground all day, I even touched the rudder twice, it is a blast to fly, plenty of pull out power and cheaper, if I tear it all to *^&* as long as I save the servos and engine I have only lost 389 dollars,,,
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:24 AM
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hi mate ..go big its better i dont fly my 50cc now i got a 100cc plane .my 2x50cc are
worth another 100cc waste off money now i think about it,,,
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:43 PM
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Thats not DOD,she's in the weeds [8D]
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:21 PM
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I jumped into 100cc from .60 size planes and haven't looked back. In fact I just picked up a AM 30% yak with a da-50 this week to be my weekend beater! Every guy at our field has started with 50cc and within a few months is trying to pinch pennys to get to 100cc. If you have the money, space, and transportation I think you are doing yourself a real injustice buying a 50cc plane. Either way they will blow your mind. Once you go gas you will never look back! The best advice I can give is don't cut corners. Buy GOOD SERVOS! Use GOOD batterys! The one thing I can say about 50cc is there are so many freakin planes to choose from, and they are so much cheaper.
Old 10-28-2006, 11:31 AM
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Wow 100cc kicks butt [8D]
So I have been playing with engine selection,so far the 3W 106cc is on top of my list with a BME 115 and DA 100.
Does anyone have a link as to where I can purchase 3W or BME here in Canada or the best buy in the US?
Old 10-28-2006, 01:03 PM
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Tough to come by in Canada. Great hobbies has them sometimes.

I got mine direct form DA, that way they have me on record for support issues... they also know I bought several engines from them and know me as a loyal customer. It's helped me in the past.

You can get virtually any brand of motor from http://h1069368.hobbyshopnow.com

He's the only guy that sells BME as far as I know. If you live near the border it will likely be cheaper to go pick it up.

Troybuilt models offers a discount on motors if you buy in combination with any of their ARFs. I can't remember how much the discount was... I think it's $1 per cc.

Hope this helps.
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Great ,I checked into those links.
Now,the money for a 35% is coming from an unsettled insurance claim,this could take alot longer than I'd like.
I think in the meantime I will have to settle for a 50cc and fund it from my regular income.I guess I will probably end up with a 50 and a 100cc machine.

I really like the looks of the Aeroworks 50cc yak QB or their Extra 260 QB,but have read excellent reports on the BME Edges and especially the Extras.I like 3D flying,as slow and low as it can get (not that my skills are exactly at that point)
It seems the DA 50 is a common motor to fit into these airframes,although a 3W55 seems like it would put any of these planes into orbit,and I am leaning toward a 3W if that is a good choice.

Noise level will be monitored,so I am looking for an ARF that is canister ready and will perform under 96db.

There has been some great feedback here,so it will be interesting to see if I can get a feasable dream combo from the experienced ones here.
Old 10-30-2006, 01:33 AM
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I would get the 100cc... flew mine all day today...

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If your moving up go for the 100c for your small plane and go ahead and start on the 40% for your real plane, then have some real fun. There no better feeling in the world then taking off for you first flight in a 40%. The power will have you hooked in a second after lift off. Dennis
Old 10-31-2006, 11:30 AM
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So True! I mostly fly 100cc size but had the opportunity to test fly a 40% composite Sunday and fell in love with it. Decided not to fly it again so as to protect my credit card and bank account. Would love to have one, but cost would be more than I could bare.
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I forgot to add the cost of a big trailer, but what the h---l you only go around once. Hopefully you have a truck to pull the trailer. O ya look at the motor homes so you can go to the flyins in style. The 2.4 gig radio's are coming on to the market so you need to get one of those too. After all that help your wife find a second job because you won't have time to work with all your new toys. Dennis
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wait till she reads this..you guys have to be more suportive c'mon,now I should go for 150cc,Ok let me talk to my Bank
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Quite in love with the Aeroworks Extra 260 in Yellow and the 3W 106 combo.
I wont even mind if the girl does not come with it
The video that is on their site was also nicely done.
Makes me save every dollar I can.
I could not find any build threads,could anyone sent me a link if they spot one around here?
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:12 AM
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Bigger planes fly (a lot) better, and lighter planes fly (a lot) better. It's much harder to make a 50cc plane light than it is to make a 100cc plane light.

It will depend on your personal "financial tolerance" though. First of all, ask yourself do you have the money to invest in the big ones. Secondly, even if you have the money, will you be comfortable risking several thousand dollars every time you fly? You will not have fun if every time you fly, you are worried about crashing and loosing the money invested.

So, if you don't have the "financial tolerance", stick to 50cc and have fun. They still fly good.
If you do have the "financial tolerance", get the big planes. They fly sooooo much better.

Jim
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ORIGINAL: Hammbone

Bigger planes fly (a lot) better, and lighter planes fly (a lot) better. It's much harder to make a 50cc plane light than it is to make a 100cc plane light.

It will depend on your personal "financial tolerance" though. First of all, ask yourself do you have the money to invest in the big ones. Secondly, even if you have the money, will you be comfortable risking several thousand dollars every time you fly? You will not have fun if every time you fly, you are worried about crashing and loosing the money invested.

So, if you don't have the "financial tolerance", stick to 50cc and have fun. They still fly good.
If you do have the "financial tolerance", get the big planes. They fly sooooo much better.

Jim
IMHO, this is a very important point. If you are going to suffer a lot of emotional trauma when your $5000 plane goes in, it might be better to stick with something smaller/cheaper. Big planes cost more and it takes a lot of time to get one properly trimmed, if you do it right. Be honest with yourself and decide if you can grit your teeth, mutter a few choice words under your breath, and go pick up what's left of your pride and joy when it impacts terra firma. If it stings a lot financially and you cry a river, big planes are not for you. But, damn, they are a lot of fun!!
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I've lost two. I kick, I say bad words, I want to throw the radio. Then i pick up the pieces and find out all I need to do is get a new plane. So each crash gets cheaper. I feel worse when i make a bad landing and chip those carbon fiber props. Waiting right now for QQ new 37% Yak. Dennis
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ORIGINAL: nitro wing

Quite in love with the Aeroworks Extra 260 in Yellow and the 3W 106 combo.
I wont even mind if the girl does not come with it
The video that is on their site was also nicely done.
Makes me save every dollar I can.
I could not find any build threads,could anyone sent me a link if they spot one around here?

Have my eye on this one too. http://www.downonthedeck.com/review_aw-260-qb.htm
Old 11-18-2006, 11:38 PM
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After sifting through my basement I found a 27% Extra 300S by Midwest.This was missing some parts and was left collecting dust for years,but I thought,hey I can finish this thing up for another 150$ and toss a 50cc in it.
So I have a Taurus 52 cc coming for it and the airframe is nearing completion.I will outfit it with good electronics so everything can swap directly into a bit bigger and more 3D designed airframe.
So a 50cc it is for now,I can do it on a tight budget,since I had a plane somewhat suitable here already.
If the (insurance) money I am expecting shows up,then the dreams of 35% may become reality.
Old 11-20-2006, 10:17 PM
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I think this is more of a financial question then anything. In nearly all cases a 100cc bird will fly better than a 50cc. Any pilot with 14 years can fly either well. The costs involved are significantly different. For about 2k you can have a top of the line 50cc plane. To go with a 100cc plane you are looking at more than double that. I have flown both and own a 50cc plane for two reasons. 1. I like to have several planes and the cost of a 50cc plane allows that. 2. Transport of a 50cc plane is much easier. Both are great just pick what fits for you
Old 11-21-2006, 04:09 AM
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I have to be honest. I have a 50cc wildhare edge as well as a 100cc 31% CA that we modified the cowl to fit the 100 as well as extended the wing area. My 50cc is 16.5 lbs and the 100 is about 20.5 lbs. Between the two the 100 is much more stable with insane power, however the 50 is my daily flyer. Bang for buck I would go for the 50 if finances are an issue. I have just as much fun with the 50 as i do with the 100 with alot less invested.
Old 12-02-2006, 02:04 PM
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I own a Comp arf 2.3 extra with a DA50 and MTW can. It's running a lightweight 3D set up and I love it. I keep cutting away from work early to practice my next new skill. You never run out of challenges and always get addicted to the feel of getting it locked in all the way down to the deck and letting rip. I've ordered and Comp arf 2.6 yak and can't wait but the feeling is accompanied by the stomach dropping feeling of how could I spend so much? I can't help myself!
On another point, I got hold of a second hand DA50 for my extra and it has never missed a beat. I do always run good quality JR servos and trust that I know how old each unit is. With the step from 50 - 100cc, the cost of servos has stayed very similar with the introduction of the JR 8711 25kg servo (so I can run 1 servo per surface with 2 on rudder - total 6) although I have had to make the step of running them through a power box on LIPO's.
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Thanks for the new responses
Main question was if the 100cc were that much nicer to fly than a 50cc,and it definetely seems though.
And a few say that a 42% is a dream over a 35%,but realisticly I will probably have to draw the line at 35%.
I used to fly .40 planes and ended up with 1.60 aircraft,which are much nicer to have in the air.It seems every size jump translates into more investment but gives back much more joy to fly at the same time [8D]
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