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Old 02-21-2003, 03:18 PM
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

I wonder why the Laser 200 aircraft has lost their poplularity?
Has anyone got the answer???


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Old 02-21-2003, 09:42 PM
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

Probably cos everyone wants the newest sleekest aerobat! i.e. Extra 330
I must admit its quite rare to see them around especialy any bigger than quarter (in the UK anyway).

Just my opinion :stupid: ....good question though!

Mind you the same could be said for lots of other aircraft e.g Dalotel and Wigens to name but two!
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:48 AM
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I asked the same question last year and at the TOC the year before and got the same answer...appearance. I see that it even spread to the UK .

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Old 02-22-2003, 02:51 AM
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Default Laser 200

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There is no full scale aircraft known as the Extra 330. There is however, a 230, 260, 300S, 300L, 400 and finally the 200. check out walter Extra's website.

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Old 02-22-2003, 03:25 AM
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Default Laser 200

If you are interested in buying a 30% Laser 200 I think I can get one for you. NIB. Send me a Message.
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:56 AM
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

Pegasus in the UK, still do a Laser 200 kit ~ 80" w/s 20-30cc for GB.P 125 ($200). Nice looking kit.
http://www.pegasusmodels.co.uk

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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

Lasers lost popularity because they used to be pretty common. Modelers get jaded, always looking for something newer than what their buddy has.
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

There is no full scale aircraft known as the Extra 330. There is however, a 230, 260, 300S, 300L, 400 and finally the 200. check out walter Extra's website.
As far as i am aware this aircraft does exist BUT its not built by extra, rather a modified extra 300S/L, mods include tuning the engine to 330HP (hence Extra "330") and changing the tail group.
Some have moded their aircraft with just the tail group and these are known as the Extyra 300XS or 300XL.
This is what i've been led to beleive after looking through many sites...if you know better let us know!

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P.S if the extra goes the same way as the laser...whats next?
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Old 02-22-2003, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Laser 200

Originally posted by doctorgo
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There is no full scale aircraft known as the Extra 330. There is however, a 230, 260, 300S, 300L, 400 and finally the 200. check out walter Extra's website.

DGO
Yea, there are 2 Extra 330's out there. And they are factory aircraft. I think both are over seas though. If there was no Extra 330 we wouldn't have models of them because they would be illegal with the full counter-balances on the elevators and such.

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Default Extra 330

There are NOT extra 330's overseas, they are in fact extra 300's
with factory mods to the purchasers wishes.
I believe the hinge lines were changed on the stab and rudder for greater authority for "freestyle" type flying along with IO540
lycomings.
The 330 logo was as the result of someone "adding" the logo to thier Extra , according to my info, was probably due to the power rating of the engine upgrade.
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

Yes there are offically 330's.. Gene Soucy has one and it is registed as a 330s not a 300xs. There is also another in hungry flown by the great Peter Besenyei but he flies an extra 330L!
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Default extra 330

Exactly!!!!!!
they are "registered" as 330's but are actually 300's with factory mods!!!!
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Old 02-22-2003, 06:31 PM
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Default Laser 200

Good response to this guestion. I have a Godfrey 33% scale Laser 200........ I like it but it's time to move on.


Like some of you said, I believe people just wanted a differant plane.
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Old 02-22-2003, 06:34 PM
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

There are a few Lanier 33% Lasers at our field, and there used to be a lot more of them. They still fly great, but people just move on, kind of like the Giles craze, as well as what will eventually happen with the Extra and Edge. Gotta keep things fresh!
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Default Extra 330 myth

First I would like to mention my source for the information I am about to submit: a close friend of mine owns an Extra 300 and gets flight training from PK (Phil Knight). PK modified the tail group and put the larger Lycoming (330 HP) in a couple of the stock 300s. Although the plane is referred to as a 330; the FAA has not certified the mods and does not recognize this version of the Extra. It only exsists in the RC world. The Extra 300 label was used for the first 40 Extras, these were two place, shoulder wing (mid or high) placement and the 300 HP Lycoming engine. ( I have many a ride in the front seat of this model, way too cool)

Hope this info helps,

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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

Good Answer!...just to play devils advocate...what about the rest of the world advocating the mods?....When i did legislation at uni the FAA covers the U.S only.
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Old 02-23-2003, 12:35 AM
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

The airplane would still be certified under the Experimental category, and if he calls it a 330 then it is a 330. Kind of like a Staudacher, Edge, Sukhoi, etc. Just because they aren't certified under the Normal or Aerobatic category, doesn't mean that the FAA doesn't recognize them.
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

You guys kill me with who's right and who's wrong,what's scale and what's not!I am pretty sure my SpongeBob pizza box is not scale,but it sure is a whole lotta fun,who cares if its scale or not,just have fun,Even if my Edge wasn't a scale model I'd fly it anyway!!How about next we start with Futaba vs JR,or DA vs 3W or kit vs arf or maybe 2 stroke vs 4 stroke etc etc.
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Default laser 200

Then ,of course, there's the Extra 200, a relatively new composite aircraft about the size of a Velox, also a composite. the E200 is made in germany, the Velox in Florida (if it's still made). the Extra 200 is a 2 place, low wing model with a 200Hp Textron Lycoming AE10 360-A1E engine swinging a 3 blade constant speed prop. Not yet seen any models of it. Quarter scale would be 73 1/2" wingspan, 66.9" long. Doesn't look much different than a 300L.

Regards, DGO

P.S. Get a Lanier Laser kit, raise the aft deck, change the tail feathers to look like a Giles, then add a Staudacher engine cowl and an extended canopy and, Viola! the new TOC Lasstaugiles 8700.
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

The 200 came out in 1996, and is actually certified as an Extra 300/200. Looks just like a 300L with a shorter nose. Size is about the same as the others. I did my new Midwest Extra based on the prototype 200 colors. The shape probably hasn't caught on in IMAC because we like to stretch things anyway. Here's a pic of a newer 200:
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Default Laser 200's wonder why?

Well then it shouldnt be called the Extra 200.. if its just like the 300L just smaller!
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Old 02-23-2003, 04:46 AM
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And I thought I was the only rabble rouser in this thread!
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Default RE: Laser 200's wonder why?

I don’t think Lasers are going away, Pacific Aero just came out with a 72" version, Kangke's Laser was and is the rage, Lanier's are still being built and shipped. I remember the old EZ giant Laser was all the rage at one time two friends of mine could not get enough of them, powered them with OS 240, Saito 270's, OS Pegasus, and Sachs Dolmar 3.2 I think the plane would sell good if it came back today. I think everybody has owned or flown a Laser at one time or another in their career.

There will always be a strong Laser contingent in our sport. Just like there will be a strong Extra crowd, a P-51 warbird following as well as a Pitts bi-plane crowd. These planes never seem to go away they just come back stronger and better.

Thats my story and Im stick'n to it !

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