Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I have a 4 year old zdz 80 (not the super) that came of a 30% SD Yak . It was 19.5 pounds and flew great for 4 years till it got shot down. So I'm thinking
ZDZ80
5955 on rudder and 5985 on everything else.
lipos w/mpi switch reg combo into single receiver
If i could keep it under 20 lbs. it would be a fun 3d plane.
ZDZ80
5955 on rudder and 5985 on everything else.
lipos w/mpi switch reg combo into single receiver
If i could keep it under 20 lbs. it would be a fun 3d plane.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I agree, the old ZDZ 80 RV is a great motor! I have one and it would be real nice on that plane with just a light setup, Pitt's muffler and all. I like it
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
ORIGINAL: theradioflyer
This is a good looking plane. Pretty expensive compared to others in this class though.
Jay
This is a good looking plane. Pretty expensive compared to others in this class though.
Jay
For that extra $50.00 the Carden is a winner.
We're assuming its gonna fly great, but you know what happens when we assume.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
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I have a 4 year old zdz 80 (not the super) that came of a 30% SD Yak . It was 19.5 pounds and flew great for 4 years till it got shot down. So I'm thinking
ZDZ80
5955 on rudder and 5985 on everything else.
lipos w/mpi switch reg combo into single receiver
If i could keep it under 20 lbs. it would be a fun 3d plane.
I have a 4 year old zdz 80 (not the super) that came of a 30% SD Yak . It was 19.5 pounds and flew great for 4 years till it got shot down. So I'm thinking
ZDZ80
5955 on rudder and 5985 on everything else.
lipos w/mpi switch reg combo into single receiver
If i could keep it under 20 lbs. it would be a fun 3d plane.
Dirty little secret is this: a ZDZ 80 on a pitts muffler weighs LESS than a 50cc on a cannister, with a similar price and a significant power increase (ES Composites pipe would weigh less of course).
Low 6k with an MSC 26x10, or 6500+ with the old square-tip Bambula 26x10 = about 50# of thrust at my (former) altitude, 4300'. My engines on 26" props turned within 200-400 rpm of my Dad's DA 100 on the same prop, and weigh over 2# less.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I "back ordered" mine yesterday . I am hoping to power it with a DL 50 on a KS pipe. I look forward to discussing the build with all of you.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I changed my mind, I am going to buy a Brillelli 366 GT. Should be lolts of power. At a closer look this plane seems too big for the 50cc. I don't know? I have seen video of a 88" 17.5# EF Yak on the 366 GT and it rocked! I guess we will find out. Look forward to more discussion.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
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What is the exact weight of the ZDZ 80?
I have owned several ZDZ 80's over the years, it is a great engine.
Dirty little secret is this: a ZDZ 80 on a pitts muffler weighs LESS than a 50cc on a cannister, with a similar price and a significant power increase (ES Composites pipe would weigh less of course).
Low 6k with an MSC 26x10, or 6500+ with the old square-tip Bambula 26x10 = about 50# of thrust at my (former) altitude, 4300'. My engines on 26" props turned within 200-400 rpm of my Dad's DA 100 on the same prop, and weigh over 2# less.
What is the exact weight of the ZDZ 80?
ORIGINAL: crazyjoseph
I have a 4 year old zdz 80 (not the super) that came of a 30% SD Yak . It was 19.5 pounds and flew great for 4 years till it got shot down. So I'm thinking
ZDZ80
5955 on rudder and 5985 on everything else.
lipos w/mpi switch reg combo into single receiver
If i could keep it under 20 lbs. it would be a fun 3d plane.
I have a 4 year old zdz 80 (not the super) that came of a 30% SD Yak . It was 19.5 pounds and flew great for 4 years till it got shot down. So I'm thinking
ZDZ80
5955 on rudder and 5985 on everything else.
lipos w/mpi switch reg combo into single receiver
If i could keep it under 20 lbs. it would be a fun 3d plane.
Dirty little secret is this: a ZDZ 80 on a pitts muffler weighs LESS than a 50cc on a cannister, with a similar price and a significant power increase (ES Composites pipe would weigh less of course).
Low 6k with an MSC 26x10, or 6500+ with the old square-tip Bambula 26x10 = about 50# of thrust at my (former) altitude, 4300'. My engines on 26" props turned within 200-400 rpm of my Dad's DA 100 on the same prop, and weigh over 2# less.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
Well I got mine today, looks awesome. I am going to be using Hitec 5955 all around and I have finally picked a motor, Evo/MVVs 58. Should be more than enough power. I look forward to getting this thread going now that they are out on the shelves.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I hope this thread is for the 89" Carden Yak from Hangar 9. I just ordered one and I will pick it up next Wednesday. I needed something to replace my 27% Extra 260 which I flew a little toooo fast last week and got some aileron and rudder flutter...just prior to impact the only controls I had were throttle, elevator, smoke and ignition...none of which help when the plane rolls knife edge and the ailerons and rudder servos have sheared.
I am going to use my DA50 and TME smart smoker with a Pitts smoke muffler. I am planning on using 5 JR8611A servos at 6 Volts on a Spektrum receiver.
Any other suggestions? Does anyone have one flying? If so how much time?
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I am going to use my DA50 and TME smart smoker with a Pitts smoke muffler. I am planning on using 5 JR8611A servos at 6 Volts on a Spektrum receiver.
Any other suggestions? Does anyone have one flying? If so how much time?
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I think there are others,but most died out too, makes you wonder how well this did in the actual market eh? Many claim its actually a good flier,but there was alot of buts..
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
Lets try to get this thing rolling again (for better words),
I just inquired a used one, having just crashed the Reractor (dumb thumb) 3D prop hang on the deck stuff I am putting my DLE55 on the Yak, it ran exelent before the crash hopping nothings wrong with it.
anyone receiving this thread have any reports on the Cardens 50 cc Yak?
I just inquired a used one, having just crashed the Reractor (dumb thumb) 3D prop hang on the deck stuff I am putting my DLE55 on the Yak, it ran exelent before the crash hopping nothings wrong with it.
anyone receiving this thread have any reports on the Cardens 50 cc Yak?
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I briefly had one. My opinion was: it was a pretty good flyer, but very weak structuraly. I WOULD NOT ever own another one. Even though its a H-9 product, replacement parts were every hard to come by. I took 6 months to get a replacement canopy.
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Do not confuse this plane with a Carden, because it's not. Its a Carden design, but built by H-9. Overall quality was poor. Early versions have a problem with weak attachment points to the canopy. Air pressure builds up in the cannister tunnel, (if not covered) and will blow the canopy off. Later versions were of stronger wood, and better joints.
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ah thank you all, I'd bet I have one of the earlier versions, I will not be using a canaster therefore I have covered over the holes in the bottom I also plan to cover all holes in the motor box as much as possible to prevent air flow into the fuse.
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
What do you think is the best 50cc yak out there???? I am going to get one, just trying to figure which. The Pilot yak looks good so does the EF yak. What do you think?
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What do you think is the best 50cc yak out there???? I am going to get one, just trying to figure which. The Pilot yak looks good so does the EF yak. What do you think?
What do you think is the best 50cc yak out there???? I am going to get one, just trying to figure which. The Pilot yak looks good so does the EF yak. What do you think?
TOC, Pilot, Aeroworks, EF, If you want to go big bucks Comp ARF,
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RE: Carden ARF Yak (Hangar 9)
I built for a friend a 100 cc of one of these he is a 3-D pro at first I was saying easy man but after a hundred or more flights extreme 3-D its still fling 1.5 years I don't say anything cause I know its going to hold up, so if the 50cc is as good as the 100cc and if my cardens ever goes in I'd consider one of these
http://www.extremeflightrc.com/html/88yak54.html
http://www.extremeflightrc.com/html/88yak54.html