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ketil 12-15-2003 04:23 PM

Pilot 1/4 Bellanca decathlon
 
Hi...!

I am ready to install engine,I want gas and scale performance.
On the box it says from 10-35ccm but this has to be glow,at least the 10ccm part.
Can you tell me about your opinion.
Thought about a zenoah g38 ,am i in the right direction?

Ketil

AJF--2 12-15-2003 05:38 PM

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G38 is a great choice. I had a 3W 24 on mine underpowered and needed noseweight. If it were me, a G38 or else Brison 3.2 depending on the budget.

Walter D 12-15-2003 07:37 PM

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G-38 would be perfect choice power wise, mine was powered with a Quadra 35 and it was just right, balanced right on the nose. The only drawback you'll have with the Zenoah is that the spark plug wire will be visible, not so on the Quadra. This is probably one of the best kits ever built by anyone, fantastic flyer, will do any manuever on the book in the most scale like fashion, and because of this, you "must" replace the aluminum strut holding fittings that come out of the fuselage with brass stock material of same thickness, I would also change all the metal fittings that are used by the struts for brass. I liked to do snaps, lomcevacks and spins with mine and although I always performed a thorough pre flight check up (including the strut attachments), lost mine soon after take off while flying straight and level. It was rebuilt and finished up the same way and flew it for over 7 years when a **** turned his transmiter on without checking the impound box while I was doing a fly by, it went straight in and was totalled.
Only vise on this airplane is that if when coming in for landing and it nears a stall, the elevator looses effectiveness abruptly, and this is before it stalls, so carry some air speed until touch down, other than that, it is a sweet flyer. By the way, at least I was able to get a new kit for my loss and I have it ageing in my hangar.

ketil 12-16-2003 08:58 AM

RE: Pilot 1/4 Bellanca decathlon
 
thanks.

I go fore the zenoah.
not so expensive,this will be fun,
Walter D very nice looking bellanca.

Ketil

Kellermann 12-17-2003 03:48 PM

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Ketil,
you choose one of the sweetest airplanes to model, with one of the most scale kits - the Pilot kit. I have been looking for one for years now and can't find one.

Walt - nice looking model.

Why don't you guys don't come by to check the Hostettler 33% Decathlon thread? Lotsa information there....

Marcus

TheEdge 12-17-2003 04:21 PM

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If this helps any, I have the ARF that Giant Scale Planes puts out and from what I understand, it is a copy of the Pilot.
I placed a Brison 3.2 in mine and it is a wonderful match. But, you still see the Plug Lead.

I have a glass cowl if anyone needs one,

LuvBipes 12-17-2003 06:00 PM

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Hi Edge, I'm interested in your cowl. Pls reply to almuli@clamericas.com

I'm building one of these which I found on Ebay last year. Got the tail feathers done and the fuse about half-way framed-up. It's like a tough 3D puzzle, what with the minimalist instructions. Nice to know there's folks around that can give advice on it. Being a strictly glow guy, I was thinking of either a Miki 1.8 or OS 1.6 for it. If it needs nose weight, I think I might go with the Moki.

Flybipe 12-19-2003 12:51 AM

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Has anyone here flown this model with either of the OS 4 stroke twins? I am concerned that the 1.6 might be too little, but the 3.0 might be way too much. The sound would be terriffic though!

Kellermann 12-19-2003 03:54 AM

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I have read a feature in a German magazine of a SD scratchbuilt from Pilot Kit plans, and powered by the 3.0, worked well.
Marcus

acrego 01-02-2004 04:27 AM

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I am very interested about Pilot's Bellanca Decatlhon construction drawings in order to lighgtly reduce the scale to adecuate to Os 120 surpass . If someone
would want send me a photo copy of the drawings i pay for the costs of the operation . In my country is imposible for me to get this or another comercial
kit or drawings to build this plane .

Thanks

jaycam 01-06-2004 08:09 PM

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I do agree that Pilot created the most scale Super Decathlons ever. I have the 1/4 scale, two of the 40 size Decathlons(which is an exact scaled down version of the 1/4 scale), and also have the smaller 25-30 size Citabria, which too is very scale. I have only been able to finish one of the 40 size Decathlons and what a pleasure it was to build and never have I build something that when complete was so exact. I will have some photos to post shortly. My question is has anyone built this smaller Pilot Decathlon and if so are its flight characteristics anything like its 1/4 scale brother.

Thanks Very Much,
Mike M

jaycam 01-08-2004 07:40 PM

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I just thought I would send out some photos of my 40 size Pilot Decathlon. It has a 64 inch wing, door and window opens, it's covered with Solartex fabric, painted with Top Flite Lustrecoat clear over Krylon spray and it's powered by an O.S. 52 four stroke. It was a pleasure to build and is very realistic.[sm=bananahead.gif]

Mike

Walter D 01-09-2004 05:35 PM

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Hey Mike, great looking bird, love the shade of green, which one is it, would like to have it on one of my airplanes.

jaycam 01-10-2004 03:38 PM

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Thanks for the compliment. The green is Krylon's Emerald Gloss Green which is then covered with Top Flite's Lustrecoat in order to fuel proof it.

Mike

quietflyer 01-11-2004 01:10 AM

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Great looking planes! Who sells the 1/4 scale Decathlon in the U.S./Canada ? Thanks.

jaycam 01-11-2004 05:25 PM

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If you're looking for the most scale realism, my suggestion would be to keep an eye on ebay and search for PILOT kits. There is a very scale 40 size Decathlon on ebay right, it's the green one I built. Giant Scale Planes has an ARF and an ARC which is based on the PILOT kit but will need some work to make it scale. Hostetler has a 1/4 scale and a 1/3 scale which are nice but not true to scale in my opinion. You might also want to look at the Modellbau company in Germany, they have some nice Decathlons too.

kadettim 02-07-2004 09:32 PM

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Hi,

Today I acquired (I think) a 1/4 scale Pilot Bellanca Super Decathlon at our local flying club's annual auction. After close review of Walter D's great photos I think that I have the Pilot version. The plane is in pretty good shape except that it is missing the pilot and seat and a few minor patches on the coat. I can tell where the seat was located originally. The color scheme is green and yellow.

Can anyone tell me a little more about this plane how I may find documentation, a pilot, seat, and parts for it? The tank is also missing so I need to find the right size tank. Any information about this plane would be very helpful.

Thanks,

Tim

Cubguy 02-14-2004 10:21 AM

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What is the wingspan on the 1/4 scale Pilot Super Decathlon.

kadettim 02-17-2004 08:58 PM

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Cubguy,

Thanks for the reply. The wingspan is 96 inches.

I noticed that you live up the road a bit in Highlands Ranch. I am member of the Jefcoaeromodlers and I bought the plane at the annual auction this month.

Thanks,

Tim

Kellermann 04-08-2005 06:06 AM

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Hola Amigo,
I have not received alerts to post replies on this thread, so I only saw your question today when I decided to check the site. I am still on the Hostettler 33% scale SD thread.

I dont think you should make the Pilot Super Decathlon scale smaller for the OS 120 - this Kit was originally designed for 60-2C or 120-4C engines.
Those who built it for gas engines had to beef the structure up to cope with the greater forces and vibration. SO if you build it exactly per plans you'll have a strong, lightweight 1/4 scale airplane.

I don't have the drawings of the Pilot kit, but I have a similar design of the Citabria, which could easily be modified to a Super Decathlon by making the ribs semi-symmetrical.

If you're still interested, please let me know and I'll send you a copy.
Dame tu direccion y te lo mando.

Marcus from Brazil

crashmaster5000 04-16-2005 10:35 PM

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[sm=confused.gif]does anyone know if Pilot has a website or how I can get one of these kits? I can't resist the urge to check into this kit, I have a .50 size decathlon from global and I love the lines of this plane and if the 1/4 scale flies anything like that one, I gotta get one. I have a U.S. Engines 42cc that's just begging for a good plane.

Walter D 04-17-2005 08:34 AM

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Check the classified section, there was one for sale NIB just a few days ago, or enter your name into the Wanted adds, you will very likely find one there.

Kellermann 04-17-2005 12:03 PM

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Pilot is out of business. If you get a 1/4 kit, grab it as it is becoming a collectors item...

Marcus

lynchr 03-02-2008 05:54 PM

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I am currently building the Pilot kit and will post some pictures soon. If anyone has any questions, I would be glad to help any way I can. Please do not ask for a copy ov my plans as I live out in the country and do not have a way to get them copied (the fuselage blueprint is 3' by 8')

Kellermann 03-02-2008 09:52 PM

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Hey Lynchr
great news!!
Please post some pix as you progress building and finishing the plane. A pity you can't copy the plan, would you even think of sending it to me so I get it copied and then send it back to you?

Or is there anyone out there who owns a plan for this plane?



Marcus


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