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Old 03-28-2012, 04:02 PM
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If you have this plane wouldnt fly it till beef up the strut attachment points in the wings or it will lawn dart like mine when the wings leave the plane, during MILD flight.They offered to help by selling me another plane
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:12 PM
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Did you say SELLING? not sending another one?
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Gotta love the quality Chinese craftmanship. Not.........
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Yeh Aeroworks will sell me another one . My opinion they should replace plane free and I still have lost a ton of money for the canisters the smartfly board and the left cyl. broke.
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If you have this plane wouldnt fly it till beef up the strut attachment points in the wings or it will lawn dart like mine when the wings leave the plane, during MILD flight.They offered to help by selling me another plane
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Got one dont fly it till you beef up the strut attachment points in the wings or youll have a very expensive lawn dart like mine.After first few flight of MILD flying the wings left the plane.I can send pics to your e-mail of the attachment points showing almost no glue and they are insufficient.The company has helped me by offering to sell me another
John, once again Aeroworks would like to apologize for the issue that you experienced. Please know that we reviewed all of the pictures you sent and we feel confident that the strut mount was not what caused your airplane to lose a wing in flight. The 100cc Carbon Cub was designed so the wing would remain intact even if both struts were not installed. We do not recommend flying the airplane without the struts but the design is so strong that this could be done.

We feel that the airplane was over powered and was subjected to tremendous stresses before the failure occurred. The 150-170cc motor recommendation was only made for flight a 150-170cc motor is too much power for the Carbon Cub and can easily over speed the airplane. This over powering and probable over speeding of the airplane resulted in flutter which caused the failure you experienced.

We have spoken too many of our customers who are flying their Carbon Cubs with great success, in fact we spoke with another customer yesterday who has close to 150 flights on his plane and has not had a single issue. He is one of many that I have personally spoken to who have not had any issue with the Carbon Cub.

As far as flight testing goes, I personally did the flight testing on our prototype here in Denver and put many flights on the airplane without any major issues. The issues that I did find were minor but we still made sure to fix them on the production airplanes. Aeroworks puts a lot of time and effort into flight testing all of our models before they are available to the modeling public. We also have a test airplane in China that has been flown at many contests and Float Fly’s without issues. This airplane is flown by our Factory R&D Team and they too have not found any issues. This model is from the exact same manufacturing lot that your airplane came from. It is equipped with a DLE 170 and a custom float set we have been developing, they do not fly the airplane without floats due to the extreme amounts of power the 170 provides for this 100cc airframe.

I would also like to address a couple of inconstancies from your posts that I feel need to be out in the open.

When you spoke to Kim on the phone you mentioned this was the “Maiden Flight” in your post above this happened in the “First few flights” not that this would have effected our decision but I think it is best that everyone now involved in this discussion know all of the facts before going further.

Upon reviewing your issue and determining the cause of the failure we contacted you and let you know what we would be able to do for you. We offered you a new 100cc Carbon Cub at a 50% discount, this is actually below our manufacturing cost for the airplane by the way. I am sorry if you do not feel this is enough but it is the best we can do considering the circumstances. This offer still stands by the way and we will gladly honor it if you like.

If you have any questions or would like to dicuss the points I made above further feel free to email or call me.
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What size engine was in the cub when it crashed? if it was within the recomended engine size (150 - 170 ) as stated from the company above, id say you did nothing wrong. not surprised the company blamed the crash on overpowering cause God forbid they be in the wrong.
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What size engine was in the cub when it crashed? if it was within the recomended engine size (150 - 170 ) as stated from the company above, id say you did nothing wrong. not surprised the company blamed the crash on overpowering cause God forbid they be in the wrong.
The airplane is meant to be flown with a 100-120cc motor, a 150cc motor was used in this airplane.

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Old 03-30-2012, 09:44 AM
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This has been discussed elsewhere as well..........don't think I will be owning an AW plane anytime in the future!!!!!!!!
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Why would someone put more then a 100cc in this ship??? 100cc is more then enough thrust for this Cub!!!
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Hi All,

Has anyone had any issues with the landing gear? The main gear axles seem to be very weak. Any kind of lateral maneuvering on the runway, and the axles will bend inward. By lateral maneuvering, I mean trying to steer the plane to keep it on the runway. I can manually straighten the axles with my bare hands by grabbing the wheels, so it seems like the metal is kind of low-quality. What is everyone using on the tail gear? I have some weak springs and the Cub has a mind of its own sometimes.

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Not that its any of my business, but why are the strut mountings just glued into what look like mortises in the ribs... no structure has been captured with that design... you're totally relying on the glue to carry the load... even though it can fly on the wing tubes alone, I would like to see something that locks the mountings into the structure of the wing.



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Yeh Aeroworks will sell me another one . My opinion they should replace plane free and I still have lost a ton of money for the canisters the smartfly board and the left cyl. broke.
OOPS. Now that we know it's Aeroworks, is this where we start making up excuses? That is the normal thing for name brands on RCU.
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:52 AM
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Please know that we reviewed all of the pictures you sent and we feel confident that the strut mount was not what caused your airplane to lose a wing in flight.
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Can you say the same in my case with Bravata?I'll load photos lower. I live in Russia, and I can't change the planes so easy as USA resident.


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I have the DA 120 in mine and no problem. I can do any maneuver with it. Why would anyone want a 150 or 170 in this cub? Aeroworks warn not to use a 150 or 170 or the wings will come off. My wings are good on my cub with DA120. Landing gear is weak on a hard landing, but you are not suppose to have a hard landing (like stall 10 above the ground). Don't know any landing gear that would hold up to that. I would buy another plane from Aeroworks. I think they have good quality.
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