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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Thanks, exactly what I wanted.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Got my flaps hooked up today only to find out that I can't get enough throw. I've done a lot of tweaking on the setup and switched to a longer servo arm with no luck. The manual calls for 60.0mm which is 2.362" or about 2 3/8". I'm only getting around 1 3/4" which will not be enough for the wing loading on this plane. I have some work to do. I wonder how long of a servo arm Horizon used on the proto type??? Here is a little video of the flap throw.


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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    What size arm are you currently using?
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    FYI, as of this morning, the EVO 33cc special Pitts muffler for the Cirrus installation is "In Stock".

    However, I have not yet heard or seen anything about the Cirrus kit or the other items I ordered for the project in several weeks.


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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Figures. The Cirrus project and accessories arrived here today and I'm off to the beach this afternoon until July 4th.

    I did inspect the firewall and fuselage. I drilled a few 1/16" holes at the top of the front and the drill cut into fiberglass and immediately into wood at both places. No gaps at all.

    The fuselage was not damaged anywhere at all due to shipping.

    I also got one of the special EVOM3 Pitts mufflers for the EVO 33cc engine, so they ARE available now.

    More to follow at the end of next week.

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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Great. Looks like your good to go.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    My friend just bought one and were powering it with an AXI 5330/24 out runner motor and 85A ESC on 10 cells. The quality of the ARF looks very good so far. We are just waiting on a shipment of batteries to arrive before final checks and a maiden. Im looking forward to flying it, looks like a sports car for the sky!
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Chris Nicastro,

    Let us know how the maiden goes.

    Back from vacation and got my Cirrus on it's legs. Very wide stance. When I was screwing the screws in for the main gear the heads of the screws in the front are very tight against the wing tube. Be careful here as it could very easily damage the wing tube. The engine has been permanently mounted with blue Threadlocker. I hate pull-pull systems for the rudder but that is what will be next and then the fuel system.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    I was unable to get the max throw on the ailerons so I hope a little over the min will do. Also, the bolts that hold the two metal pieces together for the flaps are to short. The bolts will not come all the way through the nylon nuts. I didn't like the nylon nuts only going on half way. I had to replace all the bolts. I did get the EI, fuel tank, and a few other items finished today.

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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    I started on the Cirrus this past weekend and found the very same problems. I used 4-40 by 5/8" bolts and safety nuts (a bit too long but Ihad them on hand) and I also offset the aileron servo arms one notch forward to allow more up than down, This gave me the listed high rate movement.

    I also ran the EVO33 and found both the choke and throttle plates were installed off center. This made choking difficult and the engine would not stop at full low throttle. Yes, I did remove the throttle stop screw.

    I loosened the plate screws and re-centered each plate. Now the engine will stop at full low throttle but is difficult to hand start. I resorted to the good old Sullivan DynaThrust starter. It turns a 17-8 APC at 8100 RPM. BYW, that special muffler is quite loud.

    Be careful when installing the servo mounting blocks on elevator servos. The surface area is very small and not much area for epoxy to stick to.

    Lots of contradictions and opmissions in the manual too. Use common sense. Those seats are nice but the book never mentions how or where to install them!

    back to work for me....
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    I don't think I'm going to use my seats or the dash. The glass is tinted enough so you won't see much anyway. Save's on the weight as well.

    pettit,

    Do you have a pic of the EVO33 installed. Like to see what that looks like vs my DLE 35RA.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Not opn the plane but here it is on my test stand with the special muffler. Iinstalled it "plug side up" to fit the stand.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*


    ORIGINAL: pettit

    Not opn the plane but here it is on my test stand with the special muffler.Β* IΒ*installed it ''plug side up'' to fit the stand.
    Nice looking engine. Just sent my SYSSA 30cc in for repair. Something let loose inside.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    I have a Syssa 30cc on my Rascal 110 and am waiting for SIG to re-release the floats for it. So far, the Syssa is doing great but it only has a few hours on it.

    I found by experimentation that those "corks" in the exhaust pipes actually BOOSTpower. Maybe increasing backpressure and allowing the engine to run more efficiently???

    On test stand with same prop on the same day, it turned the prop at least 300 RPMmore with the "corks" in place.

    And its quieter too with them installed, always a good thing

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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*


    ORIGINAL: pettit

    I have a Syssa 30cc on my Rascal 110 and am waiting for SIG to re-release the floats for it.Β* So far, the Syssa is doing great but it only has a few hours on it.

    I found by experimentation that those ''corks'' in the exhaust pipes actually BOOSTΒ*power.Β* Maybe increasing backpressure and allowing the engine to run more efficiently???

    On test stand with same prop on the same day, it turned the prop at least 300 RPMΒ*more with the ''corks'' in place.

    And its quieter too with them installed, always a good thing

    Yeap, you and I have the same setup. Todd at SYSSA told me that if the engine overheats while it is fairly new the ring would not seat and loose compression. That is what happened to mine. Wish you could make it to our Rascal 110/Big Bird event on Sept. 7 & 8. SIG MFG will be here once again to fly all of their planes. Great turn out last year. Looks to be even better this year.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Has anyone else that's using the Evolution 33cc gas engine, or similar engine weigh-wise, found the completed plane to be really nose heavy when the batteries are placed in the lower compartment?

    I had to move the batteries, a pair of 2300 maH A123's, to the rear of the cabin floor and it still needed 3.5 ounces of lead in the tail to balance in the middle of the CG range.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Had to do the same with my battery's. No added weight though.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Maybe your engine is a few ounces lighter than mine. 3 ounces at the tail is better than 8 ounces at the wing trailing edge inside the cockpit. And thats without any fuel.

    A nose heavy plane flies poorly. A tail heavy plane flies only once!
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    My son took the leap of faith and ordered the Cirrus from Advantage. He received it and the fuselage has a 4" crack in the paint job between the rear window and the fin. Has written e-mails twice to Advantage and they seem to be ignoring him. Hope he gets satisfaction from Advantage but the initials signs are not good. Jon
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Advantage finally responded to my son and will either replace the fuse or refund him some of the purchase price. Way to go! Jon
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*


    ORIGINAL: maukaonyx

    Advantage finally responded to my son and will either replace the fuse or refund him some of the purchase price. Way to go! Jon
    I hope it all works out. I am still having issues with my Cirrus. My DLE 35RA will not start. Tried everything. All it will do is pop. I have to pull the engine off and send it back to Tower. Looks like I'm down for a few more weeks. I hope that's all it is. This plane has been nothing but trouble from the get go. Maiden day should be interesting the way everything has been going.
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    RE: *Cirrus SR22T 30cc ARF by Hangar 9*

    Hang in there Zippi.....you have walked a LONG distance with this project
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailskid View Post
    Hang in there Zippi.....you have walked a LONG distance with this project
    Not sure I will even maiden this plane. So much has went wrong I'm not sure the maiden would go well without something else going wrong. Just got a "New" DLE 35RA sent to me. They didn't fix the one I sent in.
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    It was really cloudy last Saturday but we did put in a few flights on the Cirrus. Plenty of power, taking off at less than hald throttle. No trim needed at all but I did remove all the down elevator mixed into the flaps.

    Smooth, stable and graceful, what more can I say.

    Landing was rather fast, but I only put the flaps halfway down,. On the next flight with full flaps, it was like throwing out the anchor.

    I like it!!!

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    Well I finally got to maiden my H9 Cirrus today. Seem to really require a lot of ground speed to take off or you'll get the double take off. This is where is comes off the ground once then settles back down and then takes off again. No trim required which was pretty cool and seem to fly really fine. The DLE 35RA had more than enough power to fly this plane scale and beyond. The Biela 17X10 3 blade prop worked out really nice and gives a good scale look. I did not mix any flap to elevator and it worked out great. I made a pass a below half throttle and half flaps and seen no difference. I made another pass at less than half throttle with full flaps and you could see it balloon up just slightly which was fine at this speed. The first landing I cut the throttle to idle and used my air speed to come in with full flaps. Worked out ok but needed some more power. The second landing with full flaps was lower with plenty of throttle and did a lot better. I will say this, IMO this plane is not for a beginner and unless you have had some experience with giant scale or War birds you may want to get a little help getting this one down in one piece. It fly's fine but once you slow it down it feels really heavy to me. The plane drew a lot of attention at the field and looked great out in the sun. Very nice flying plane but scale is just not what I'm use to. I lean more towards the 50cc aerobatic type planes.
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