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Old 02-13-2008, 12:48 PM
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Thanks Steve for your tips, now I can imagine, what a monster this engine is.
I want to hold her with four cords, attached at the cabane struts and at the gear on both sides.
So I have a 4 point attachment, think, thatĀ“s enough. I will lash her on the foot of my 3 meter garden sun-umbrella(150kg).
One question I have, the adjustment of the two needles, L+H, I didnĀ“t change it since delivery. I heard, before shipping they
make a test run and you should not change these adjustments? Is that right?

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Is there and electric starter large enough to start a 215?
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Thanks Steve for your tips, now I can imagine, what a monster this engine is.
I want to hold her with four cords, attached at the cabane struts and at the gear on both sides.
So I have a 4 point attachment, think, thatĀ“s enough. I will lash her on the foot of my 3 meter garden sun-umbrella(150kg).
One question I have, the adjustment of the two needles, L+H, I didnĀ“t change it since delivery. I heard, before shipping they
make a test run and you should not change these adjustments? Is that right?

Bernie
Hi bernie, the adjustments on the needel valves will be just fine for the first start up of your new engine. You may have to change them later due to your weather conditions. But just remember these two points. Make sure engine is at the correct running temp. before changing them, and 2 the engine is very very sensitive to very small turns on the screws. It only takes a tiny bit of turning to get results.

Have a great day Bernie.back to work on the Stearman for me now.

P.S. Bernie I still recommend you have someone there with you when you start the engine.....what if the really bad situation happens and you need to get medical help quickly???? If it were not for my son being home the day I got hit by the prop I would have bleed to death before the medics got to me.it was that bad!!! my son saved my life by knowing how to control the bleeding till medical help arrived.

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Hi Steve,

I have seen the pictures of your injurys at home by Kris and I now wat you mean to be extra careful. That is with every engine but particularly with the strong moki.

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Hi Ruud, yes Kris talked to me by telephone yesterday. He told me that he has shown those photos all over where you live. Hope it neve happens to anyone ever again. Besides it hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!! like all get out. In fact I was screaming like a little ***** all the way to the operating room. Hurt worse than when I got shot in Viet Nam many many moons ago.
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Puuuuhhhhh................

lovely expectations, I promise, Ido my best.
But thereĀ“s a little bit time (2-3 weeks) until than.

Steve, how do you handle the choke, do you use him only to soak the gas to the carburator,
or do you use him to start with ignition on?

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Puuuuhhhhh................

lovely expectations, I promise, Ido my best.
But thereĀ“s a little bit time (2-3 weeks) until than.

Steve, how do you handle the choke, do you use him only to soak the gas to the carburator,
or do you use him to start with ignition on?

Bernie
Bernie I use the choke like this..........close throttel, then close choke....flip prop through 3-5 times. Then open choke and use high trim on throttel servo then turn on ignition current and flip prop a few times. Make sure you have throttel open to a high idel as engine will not start cold on a low idel setting. After engine is warmed up for a couple of minutes it should start with just high idel setting. You should only need to use the choke when engine is cold like the first time you start it for a days flying ( might be different were it is colder) like Germany. Bernie remember to mount the prop in such a position that when you flip it it will be at a 1 oclock or 11 oclock position on a commpression stroke. You can use the cylinder in the vertical position for the referance point if you wish.

.S. Keep choke closed at first when starting............the engine will fire then stop..............then open choke and high idel and it should start right up. Engine will idel good at 850-900 rpm after it is warm. I belive starting instuctions are included in the owners manuel.

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I received a reply from Proctor telling me I needed to order direct from Barth and they gave me a link to the Barth site and the site does not work. The front page loads and that is it, all the links on the site are broken and you cannot browse their site or get any contact info. Does anyone have any contact info for Barth?
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I received a reply from Proctor telling me I needed to order direct from Barth and they gave me a link to the Barth site and the site does not work. The front page loads and that is it, all the links on the site are broken and you cannot browse their site or get any contact info. Does anyone have any contact info for Barth?
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Try this link http://www.fmbb.de/

It worked for me. And it has a English version as well
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Well it doesn't work for me,
The Block at the top of the web page where all the links are appear as little blocks with red "X" in them, the links will not work for me. This is getting very frustrating trying to buy a cowling and wheel pants.
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I received another e-mail from Proctor Enterprises giving me the e-mail address for Barth. I have sent them an e-mail requesting a phone # and also asking whether I can order a cowling and wheel pants directly frm them.
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Well it doesn't work for me,
The Block at the top of the web page where all the links are appear as little blocks with red "X" in them, the links will not work for me. This is getting very frustrating trying to buy a cowling and wheel pants.
Anthony
Do you have your pop up blocker activated on your computer? That is what happens if I have my pop up blocker activated( little red x's)
Check and see if that is what is causing your problem if not let me know and I'll get Peters phone number for you.
Peter is an engineer on the Euro Fighter project so he travels a lot in his job between Spain and Germany.

P.S. here his his phone number off the web-site +49(0)80639482
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Thanks,
I am not sure what my issue is with the site, I turned off pop-up blocker and it still wouldn't work, I got on here at work without an issue. I think I see the Waco cowling in the price mlist but I am not totally sure since I cannot read German. I will try and call them on monday.
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Anthony,

IĀ“m sitting here in Germany, perhaps I can help you.
Tell me what you want, and I will do my best

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Anthony,

IĀ“m sitting here in Germany, perhaps I can help you.
Tell me what you want, and I will do my best

Bernie
Bernie. he wants to order a cowl and the wheel pants and the strut covers on the landing gear. But he doesn't know the cost or how to order them.

Steve

Your going to like that Futuba radio Bernie............. REALLY LIKE IT!!

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Thanks for the help,
I have received an e-mail from Peter and we are making the arranagements to get my cowl and pants.
Thanks Again!!
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Thanks for the help,
I have received an e-mail from Peter and we are making the arranagements to get my cowl and pants.
Thanks Again!!
Anthony
Anthony you are more than welcome. BTW I'm a member of the Waco Brotherhood myself I'm not sure of my number at this time.
Tell the "Brothers" to forgive me but I'm building a big Stearman at this time. I still have my Barth Waco though.... It is just a beautiful bird and flys very well at 46 lbs. I plan on doing some improvements to it after I get the Stearman in the air. Things like providing more acess hatches to get to the hardware inside a bit eaiser and improving my landing gear pants.I keep cracking them on some landings so I want to cure that as well.

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Your going to like that Futuba radio Bernie............. REALLY LIKE IT!!

Steve,
I couldnĀ“t wait until monday and I went to my model dealer and got it TODAY!!!!!!!!!!
ItĀ“s a great radio, especially the short response time, it feels like directly steering, when you know, what I mean.
BUT: thereĀ“s a big bug with my powerbox, the reciever 6014 FS has only a impuls voltage of 2,76V and that could
be not enough for my powerbox, when she gets warm over 50Ā°C. There was a warning notice today on the german
website of robbe, thats the distributor of futaba here in germany.
I hope, I can get help by the manufactor of my powerbox.
ThatĀ“s the first reciever of futaba, which is working with an impus voltage of 2,76V, all other recievers are working with 3,3V.[>:][>:][>:]

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Steve,

You are Brother #46. Anytime you forget, got to any page ending in 0 (zero) to find the Waco Brotherhood List. The later in the thread, the more current the list.
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Your going to like that Futuba radio Bernie............. REALLY LIKE IT!!

Steve,
I couldnĀ“t wait until monday and I went to my model dealer and got it TODAY!!!!!!!!!!
ItĀ“s a great radio, especially the short response time, it feels like directly steering, when you know, what I mean.
BUT: thereĀ“s a big bug with my powerbox, the reciever 6014 FS has only a impuls voltage of 2,76V and that could
be not enough for my powerbox, when she gets warm over 50Ā°C. There was a warning notice today on the german
website of robbe, thats the distributor of futaba here in germany.
I hope, I can get help by the manufactor of my powerbox.
ThatĀ“s the first reciever of futaba, which is working with an impus voltage of 2,76V, all other recievers are working with 3,3V.[>:][>:][>:]

Regards
Bernie
Bernie..what model powerbox are you useing??? I have one the 40-16 EVO I think it is. I have no idea about what you are talking about in regaurdes to the impuls voltage???????????? That stuff is way beyond may understanding. But I hope I can use my powerbox with it. How do I find out what my impulse voltage is on my reciver?? could it be different than the reciver used in Europe??
Maybe we should contact Futuba support to see what they say.

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Steve,

You are Brother #46. Anytime you forget, got to any page ending in 0 (zero) to find the Waco Brotherhood List. The later in the thread, the more current the list.
Thanks for the info!!!
#46 signing out for now
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Steve,
only the reciever 6014 is working with 2,76 V impulse voltage. In your case with the 40/16 Evo powerbox there is the possibility,
to make an alteration at Deutsch Modellbau, the manufactor of your powerbox. You have to ask your dealer!
In my case with the 40/24 Competition I donĀ“t know, whatĀ“s to do.
These 2,76V could be not enough for the powerbox, when it getĀ“s warm over 50Ā°C, and ONLY than!
I sent on friday an e-Mail to Deutsch Modellbau about this problem. I will report, when I get response.



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Hi guys,

now IĀ“m at a point after nine month building time, where I can say: SHE`S READY!
WhatĀ“s to do is the final installation of the RC components and make itĀ“s coordination.
Also the rollout and offcourse the maiden flight..................puuuuuuuuuuuuuh!

But I MUST say it now and here: I LOVE THIS PLANE!

See self:



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gratuliere! Bernie.

Es seht super aus, es ist ein atemberaubend modellflugzeug.

I wish you all the luck with the coming maiden, take your time for it and control everything at least two times.

Regards,

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