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Old 03-03-2004, 08:00 PM
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My dad converted a magic using a jeti-phasor brushless motor with a gear box. At full throttle, its about 9 minutes flying time. Performance is good but not enought to hover. The other plane in the picture that is gas is mine. People really awe at the site of a gas and an electric magic flying. Just wanted to let u guys see.
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Old 03-03-2004, 08:47 PM
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ill post some more pics of them flying as soon as i can
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Old 03-13-2004, 09:35 PM
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Very nice. I have the same plane w/ jeti Phasor 30 and the same gearbox.I plan to use 12 cells in it . Tell your dad to lose the wood prop and get an APCE electric prop. They are the best period. I have flown mine with a Model Electrictronics Turbo 10 and 6:1 gearbox, mega 2230-3 direct as well. The mega gave it the best performance on 10 cells.
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:42 PM
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kool, he did get rid of the prop and did get an APC electric prop, it really makes a difference. Glad to hear everything and hope u have fun. My dad really likes using 10-cell HECELLs, they are very light, about 12 oz. Whut kind of batteries u use?
Are u going to SEFF?? If the Mega was the best, how come yur not using it?
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:20 AM
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I just put a new motor in my Magic 3D - Mega 22/20/2 geared 6.16:1, 16x8 APC E prop, Thunder Power 8000 mAh 4S4P LiPo pack. 30-40 minutes of all out 3D per charge! Hovers @ 1/2 power, unlimited vertical. Less weight and more power than most glow Magics using 40-46 slimers - and LOTS more flight time than 8-12 ounces of fuel

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http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=210852
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:07 PM
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where do u get the gearbow from?
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:12 PM
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gearbox* it says that u have a 6.16:1, wondering where u got it from?
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Old 03-18-2004, 12:52 AM
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You can get the gearbox here:

http://www.innerdemon.com

I use the Mini Demon gearbox, adapter plate for the Mega motor, and a 12 tooth pinion for a 6.16:1 gear ratio. Nice gearbox and VERY easy to mount!
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Old 04-15-2004, 11:01 AM
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Nice planes! Mine also has a Jeti-Phasor 30-3 with the gearbox and i also use HECELLS. Enjoy yurs!
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will be planning to use Kokam 1500's 3S2P [8D]
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Old 07-07-2004, 04:29 PM
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We got new power for the magic. MEC 36-50-6 motor with a 4.67 to 1 GB. With a 18x8 prop on 12 cells it will go vertical at half throttle. My dad is scared to punch it up too much without checking it on the whatt meter. He doesnt want to burn anything up. With 14 cells and a 16x8 prop it has 43 Amps and 586 whatts and goes V at full throttle. We will check it on the WKND

and for only $106, this is a GREAT motor [8D]
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Old 07-08-2004, 06:52 PM
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WELL THE 18X8 PROP WAS JUST TOO much for the Magic. It gets good performance but only for a couple of runs up to altitude, then it turns into a giant slow flyer. My dad says it seems to heavy to turn. Back to a smaller diameter prop. Maybe a 16x10.
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Half off topic but here goes, I just messed up my 4.4 maxxon, the box it self is pretty much used up after a couple of years of use, and today I was thinking of cleaning and lube it... but the thread on the adapterplate broke thinking a mini Deamon would be cool...

it´s an 8L and if I go 7.4:1 it will do an 18x10 on 3s li-po

how much is a mini Deamon?
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[link=http://www.innerdemon.com/minidemon.html]http://www.innerdemon.com/minidemon.html[/link]

that should answer yur question hopefully

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Old 07-11-2004, 05:34 AM
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thanks Andrew

but I did´t find the price on their site. or does it only sell with motor?
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$220 incl a Hacker B40 L... 220-145= roughly $75 for the gear
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I got my dad a whatt meter for his birthday today. Happy B day dad. He Checked the Magic with 12 cells and 16x10 prop. Now getting 404 whatts (a great loss) and 36 Amps. Checking V tomorrow. May go back to 14 cells. The props are piling up on work bench. Need some?
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Well the V was not that good. So its off to Graves RC to look for a 17x10. He doesn't want to go backto 14 cells yet. My dad has to work three 12 hours for the next 3 days so it will be a while before more data can be collected.
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My dad found some time to test the Magic with a 17x10 prop. 35A with 387 whatts. The V is not as good either. Who whould have thought it would have less performance than a 16x10. Can't find a 17x8 at the LHS or Graves RC.We will have to get one online from Pete P at MEC. Less shipping than TH and faster.



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3D,
Do you fly with the Orlando squadron behind the Homedepot? I just realized where you were located and thought of those guys. If you dont, they are all electric and I can put you in touch with them.

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3D,
Do you fly with the Orlando squadron behind the Homedepot? I just realized where you were located and thought of those guys. If you dont, they are all electric and I can put you in touch with them.

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no i don't, but i've heard of them. The only Home Depot i know of is too small. Let me know which one you r talking about.

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Andrew,
I Pm'd you a link to their discussion thread. You and your Dad ought to go hang out with them. Good group of guys.
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Too much rain on the wk end to test the V on the Magic. Got the 17x8 props from MEC in 3 days. whatt meter shows 444 whatts with this prop on 12 cells. pulls 36Amps. Nothing close to the 14 cell power but 4.4 ozs. less weight. My dad works at night so he is going to test fly in the AM. My dad thinks the 17x10 couldn't get enough rpm's
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He will be able to feel that 1/4 lb less weight. I cant remember...did you dad try the 18X8" prop? As you drop cells, you want to increase the disk size to keep the amps up. I would guess that the 18" prop will put it around 42 to 43 amps on 12 cells and produce more thrust. Keep us updated. Glad that MEC motor is working well for you two.


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did you dad try the 18X8" prop? As you drop cells, you want to increase the disk size to keep the amps up. I would guess that the 18" prop will put it around 42 to 43 amps on 12 cells and produce more thrust.
We tried it, but didn't have a whattmeter to see the numbers. The prop is a LOT more bigger and weighs more too. Wasn't that good though...Giant slowflyer


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