airraptor

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If you own a two cycle engine join the club. I am number 1 one who wants to be second?

















LOL man what is up with all these clubs. there is a club for each engine MFG, each radio MFG and heck there is even a hobby king club. Any way guys join up its fun.

spaceworm

All my friends say I am a number 2. Am I? Sign me up. Thanks.

earlwb

Count me in too.

A oldie but goodie, still in use today too.
Fox Blue Head .60 dual plug engine from circa 1966

Ernie Misner

Boy is that pilot getting some serious oil in the face! Cool engine, is it schernule ported? Are the 2 plugs a California emissions requirement?

Sign me up, I started loosing my hearing with the Cox .049's running the 30% nitro, all castor fuel in those little red pint cans back in the 50's! Does anyone remember that fine smell?

Ernie Misner

Turk1

May I join too? I am still resisting to own 4 cycle or gas engines.You know,last fashion is gas now.

Ernie Misner

I think it's permissable to cross over to the dark side and own a 4-cycle engine. Just don't mention it...... or you can lean it out so much that it "2-cycles". lol

Ernie

Turk1

No way with 4 cycle glow but I have to own a "Gas converted 2 cy.glow engine" only to experiments on it.Only for " applied science" sake,not more

MetallicaJunkie

lol

earlwb

Way back in the 1960's it was thought that large glow engines needed two glow plugs for reliability. But I think it turned out to be more of a reliability issue with the glow plugs themselves. But at the time it was thought to help. So several engine companies did it for a while. The engine is a Fox Blue Head .60 engine, I originally flew it with no muffler and it had a exhaust baffle connected to the carb for better idling. Try flying a unmuffled .60 engine nowadays but way back then everyone was doing it. The engine also uses a baffle on the piston it is not Schnuerle ported. But Fox had a connecting rod with needle bearings on both ends on the engine. So it was sort of way ahead of its time when he manufactured it. The Blue Head .60 engine and its red head ,74 brother engines were Fox's first .60 size pattern plane engines for the pattern flying competitions that were becoming popular. So they were the engines to beat for a while. This engine was made in .60, .74 and then later bored out to a .78 and it was sold as a .78 up into the early 1980's. The Fox .78 engine still turns a big prop really well even today it holds it own with modern Schuerle engines but it used a baffled piston still.

spaceworm

I still hav an unopened can of that stuff. I am afraid to open it up! Remember Missile Mist?[8D]

earlwb

Yeah after something like six or seven flights the oil residue accumulates.

If it is still sealed up Ok and stored Ok, it is still good and ready to use. The fuel can be over 20 years old and still good to use.
The fuel is great in 1/2a engines, if you don't have a big engine you want to use it in.

You mean this.

spaceworm

Yes. Was that the stuff that smelled like perfume and had a lot of benzene in it?[]

Patxipt

Sign me up, I love engines, either 2 or 4-cycle.

Perfume you say? I once mixed some strawbery scent in a batch of homemade fuel, couldn't get my nose off of the exhaust with the engine running

earlwb

It basically was 24% nitromethane, 17% castor oil and maybe 59% methanol. But he might have had something else in it too. Fox never stated what else could have been in it.

turbo.gst

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Count me in the club. Earl didn't Fox change the nitro% in missle mist in the mid to late 1980's?

landeck

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Count me in. I have been flying 2 cycle glow engins since 1953. All of my engines age glow with 90% being two cycle.

Bruce

earlwb

I think they did, but I don't remember the particulars of it.

spaceworm

That fuel from the 50's that smelled flowery might have been another brand. Hard to forget the smell, and I think it was high nitro.

earlwb

That might have been when people were using nitrobenzene instead of nitromethane way back then. But until Steve McQueen died of cancer because of it, no one was particularly worried about it then. Except for some chemical processes it is pretty much banned for use everywhere else.
But yes it had a different smell to it and even the smell was consider highly toxic.  That might have been what you were smelling many years ago.

Ernie Misner

It's a wonder any of us survived those early days with no MSDS safety data sheets to refer to.... Great find on the old ads and Missle Mist fuel cans!!! All fuels smelled so much better back then with all that castor AND no mufflers what so ever. Does anyone else have permanent ringing in their ears?

When I was in grade school back in the 50's my dad built us a little tether car with a McCoy .09. Lapped piston and all it really loved the Cox "red can" fuel. It used a propeller, high pitch that was cut way down in diameter. We would head out on the weekends and find suitable school yards with an asphalt parking lot area. When that thing fired up kids would come running from all over the place. When it would lean out at the end of the run it was really frightening to be anywhere near and then they would all scatter and find something to hide behind just in case. I see where used original tether cars and parts are commanding high prices now on Ebay. Remember the smell of a brand new engine after the first hot run? I think it's the brass parts in an engine that emits that wonderful smell when they get hot amongst the castor oil. That smell will be found in Heaven for sure.

Ernie Misner

spaceworm

Um, that does explain alot.

codycarlisle25

All glow 2 Strokes here.

erik58

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I'm in too, lots of 'em diesels too Erik

David Bathe

Diesels??.[X(]
Hold on... you may be crossing the line here.

SJN

Got a few 2 strokes......but I dont use them any more. I have gone 4 stroke