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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    That 15cc will require an ignition and power source added weight. Most gas engines seem to produce less power than glow from the same size. The Norvel would seem to be the exception to the power rule..
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Hi Fiery,
    I think the logic comes from what they have done with the 061 and 074. The 061 is one of the best 1/2a motors out there. Yes, the fora and profi are superb, but most of us don't want to drop $200 on a 1/2a motor without a throttle. There is nothing out there that compares with their 074. The power of a 10 and the weight and fuel burn of a 049. Ask anyone who has one. Their 25 is the weight of a FP or LA and the power of a 32. I have 3 and they will all spin 19k all day long.

    The market is filled with good 46's so why even jump into that pool when you have something like their Gas 40. Nothing out there even close. It falls more in line with the other motors they make.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    AJ, I 100% agree with you . . . and I suspect a NV 60sz gas would act more like my MVVS 77 except probably lighter. I (not so patiently) waited on this entry, & got plenty to play with so it will be real interesting to wait & see what's next with NV.

    Like Bill says, they sure seem to be "ahead of the curve" in research & development.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    But for the Quickee 500 types, you need to mount the engine using the backplate screws.
    For many clubs novice classes use non Quickee planes and engines. They may specify a single plane such as a World Models T-34 for example.
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Hi Ken,
    I did get confirmation that this will also be available in a CL version. I don't have any numbers on it yet, but it will be available shortly.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Bill, you are right about the smaller engines-nothing else is close. The .074 specifically delivers on the promise that every small engine has made since the 1970's with regard to big engine performance in a schoolyard package. The rest of Norvel's lineup are real standouts compared to their contemporary peers but the .074 is spectacular. I just wish that it was more affordable so that other people would take a chance with them. The .074 is a good value where it is priced but with times being what they are and most small airplane fliers going to electric, I think the .074 will continue to suffer. Norvel definitely needs to offer this one as a factory diesel.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Hi Hllywdb, Was wondering where the 40 gasser will ship from ? Is there a "NV USA" or will they be coming from Russia ? So ready to "pull the trigger" and get one moving.

    Thanx T-man49 in Alabama

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Hi Dave, the .074 is my favorite 1/2a motor. It just does everything effortlessly, and consistantly. Lets me just worry about flying. As far as a disel, not sure. I think small gas is the way the future is going to go. Once you run one of these you'll understand. This one runs like a big 074, smooth, consistant, and idles like your mom's stationwagon. Had one idleing at 1650 for 3 minutes the other day. Can't ask for more than that. That's what the 40's were promising us for years.

    T-man, I belive that everything sold out side of Russia ships from USA. D-day should be very soon now, they are just wrapping up details.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Just curious about the glow plug for the 40sz. Will that be available from NV only, or will it be something that is generic and available on the market today?
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Hi all,
    I spoke with the folks at NV today and have some good news. They did recieve the first small shipment of production motors in. I was able to get my hands on one last week and am happy to report that the production motors are every bit as good as the prototypes, in fact it seems a bit smoother to me.

    They are not listed on the site yet and have not been anounced. However, some of you that have been following this thread and have e-mailed them to be put on the list may have already been contacted. They are going to try and fill the US orders from people on the forum first before the engine is officially announced. If you have an interest and haven't heard back, by all means send them an e-mail.

    A few words on break in. The motors are manufactured very tight and need a cold break in. If you have any of their small motors, you already know the drill. If not, just read the manual and follow it to a "T". Also, these do not break in like an OS or Magnum, think more Enya or Fox. They break in at a slower speed initially, but this is not an "Unmanned" opperation. I started at just under 1/2 throttle, and within a few minutes was down to 1/4 throttle to maintain the same speed. I strongly suggest not flying it for the first 12 to 18oz of fuel. Not that you will hurt the engine, but the idle keeps getting stronger durring this time, and you would take off with a nice idle, but find you needed to slow it down another 500 to 1000 rpm to stop it by the time you landed and don't have that much trim left in the servo! By the end of the 1st 12 to 18oz this has stablized down to an incredibly slow and reliable idle. Like an Enya or Fox, they really start to hit their stride between 1/2 gallon and a gallon. After you start flying the motor, you will be glad you took the time to break it in right as you will want to have this one around for a long time.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Just got my divs in for one of these.  Have had the 061 for years.  Bob

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Mine shipped last night !!
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    hsukaria,
    To get back with you on the plug. I have tried most of the turbo plugs that will fit. The OS P3 Turbo works fine, the rest won't stay lit or miss at high speed. The original on mine has broken in 2 motors and is still running great after a year or so of use. So I don't even bother bringing a spare with me.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    WOW!!! So this engine really uses off-the-shelf plugs!! That's great.
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    I wonder if I can put a glow plug in my ST 90 conversion? It has a walbro carb, just wonder how well it would run with a glow plug.
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Why don't you find out and report back to us? You can make that your assignment for this weekend.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Are they going to be at Toledo? Would like to pick one up there.
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Plug looks to be a P3 OS turbo plug, so your not puttingbthis plug in a standard glow engine. I need to get some oil, fuel, and a tank replummed to fire this little beast up!
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    AJ, Where is the plug and muffler???

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Still in the box! Making the kids dinner right now will edit the post in a few.
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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    Ordered one tonight, and another .049/.061 diesel head. The engine was $165 shipped, seems too good to be true these days!

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    I read the break in procedure , its a little lengthy compared to some of the others but not a big deal. I'm hoping to get mine fired up this week end but we'll see how time goes.

    They did ship mine priority,shipped Monday, arrived today.

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    I can attest to the break in. Mine runs stronger after a year of lots of running that it did at 30 days. Might be more instruction than some of the others, maybe because they aren't in busseness to sell you a replacement in 2 years

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine


    ORIGINAL: AJsToyz

    Plug looks to be a P3 OS turbo plug, so your not puttingbthis plug in a standard glow engine. I need to get some oil, fuel, and a tank replummed to fire this little beast up!

    Can you show us a pic of the combustion chamber?

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    RE: Testing the new NV (Norvel) .40 size (6.5cc) gasoline glow engine

    I can show you anything you want as long as I don't need to take it apart!
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