Glow head brotherhood.
04-10-2014, 06:38 AM
#502
I can't imagine the glow fuel wrecking the oil passages in the Citroen. Injectors maybe, could plug up the catalytic converter though. I bought a new 920 Virago motorcycle back in the day, and put some castor in for breakin. It smelled just like a model motor. I put old fuel in the lawnmower just to get it out of the way. No cat. there.
04-10-2014, 06:43 AM
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I can't imagine the glow fuel wrecking the oil passages in the Citroen. Injectors maybe, could plug up the catalytic converter though. I bought a new 920 Virago motorcycle back in the day, and put some castor in for breakin. It smelled just like a model motor. I put old fuel in the lawnmower just to get it out of the way. No cat. there.
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04-10-2014, 11:07 AM
#504
Friend of mine tried an experiment with his nearly-new Citroen BX ... this was 20-odd years ago. He thought he'd run it on glow fuel, Castor, 5% nitro.
It blocked the oil galleries and destroyed the engine. The guys at Citroen replaced the whole engine under warranty, but were mystified as to why this should have happened (as you might imagine, my friend did not mention the glow fuel).
He was a very naughty boy, wasn't he? The perfect example of Moral Hazard, because he probably wouldn't have experimented, if the vehicle was not under Warranty.
It blocked the oil galleries and destroyed the engine. The guys at Citroen replaced the whole engine under warranty, but were mystified as to why this should have happened (as you might imagine, my friend did not mention the glow fuel).
He was a very naughty boy, wasn't he? The perfect example of Moral Hazard, because he probably wouldn't have experimented, if the vehicle was not under Warranty.
04-10-2014, 06:34 PM
#506
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In the 70's , I belonged to a club that had a very secluded field with a very great landowner. We were about 1500 feet back from the road. At the beginning of the season , we mixed up a 55 gal barrel of 10% nitro fuel, so no-one had to transport & store fuel. One evening, the landowners son had run the tank very low on hid dad's new Lincoln, so he put in about 18 gal from our barrel. He made it just to the road, and floored it. Don't know just what let loose, but the engine was totally ruined.
04-11-2014, 10:03 AM
#508
Mythbusters tested using moonshine in various cars unmodified to see if they'd run on it or not. The old carbureted car and the early EFI car and had no luck keeping them running. The brand new Camaro ran on it albeit using almost twice the fuel and yet it didn't ruin the engine. I wonder what glow fuel would do to ruin an engine...? Interesting.
04-11-2014, 10:55 AM
#509
The air/fuel mixture ratios for gasoline versus glow fuel are quite a bit different. Where you have to run a fairly lean air/fuel ratio with gasoline, you need to run a much more rich air/fuel ratio with glow fuel. So if you run a gasoline engine off of straight glow fuel, it will be way too lean then. Plus you have oil mixed in the fuel and that also makes the fuel somewhat more thick to flow through the jets in the carb too. So yes, I can see someone burning up a gas engine using glow fuel in it. Now you could mix the two together to some extent, but you would want more gasoline than glow fuel in the mix though. Finally, there is the effect that the glow fuel would very likely react with the rubber parts in the fuel system too. But that might not be a short term problem. Hard to say, I never tried it though.
04-11-2014, 05:19 PM
#510
A lot of new cars can burn the 85% ethanol mix. I think the computer adjusts the mixture. It is fairly similar to methanol, rusts the tank, wrecks the rubber tubing, eats away at the carb... A friend of mine tried it in his motorcycle and car. It was a lot of trouble. I just told him what to do to make the bike go, and a week later he did it. He was quite happy, he went out on the expressway, and nearly rear ended a guy when he pulled the throttle. He raised the compression, and opened the jets on the carb. The first day there was a puddle in the garage. The carb O ring dissolved. He changed it and it worked fine. His car went good as well. Supercharger, high compression, gas or methanol. Fastest car I was ever in. Eventually the block split between the cylinders a couple years later. Real glow fuel would plug up the cat. eventually on a new car, as would 2 stroke weedwacker fuel I would guess.
04-11-2014, 05:36 PM
#511
I would think the catalytic converter would get hot enough to burn any oil up that made it that far.. Moreover, many catalytic converters have platinum in them. Maybe any leftover methanol vapor in he exhaust would make the cat get hotter?
I think I'm in getting in over my head...
I think I'm in getting in over my head...
04-14-2014, 04:18 PM
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04-14-2014, 06:22 PM
#517
Yeah, that's why I don't live any farther north. I got to fly a little bit today, although it was rather windy. Planes came home intact, so it was a good day. I gotta tell ya, I'm gettin' a bit tired of this wind crap myself.
Think SPRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think SPRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04-15-2014, 01:09 AM
#519
edit: added photo. What the thermometer showed in my pickup on the ride to work. It's April 15th!
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04-16-2014, 07:36 AM
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hey guys i just got my cox pee wee which was new in the box (the video can bee seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZTpU-kpNkY)
now what i want to know is if the prop shown in the video is of idle size
also since i dont have a glow head starter for it what are my alternatives ?
what will be the best fuel to use in it ?
what shall be the run in procedure ?
Iam planing to use it in a micro telemaster kit v2
is this kit idle for it or can you guys recommend a better one
please help
now what i want to know is if the prop shown in the video is of idle size
also since i dont have a glow head starter for it what are my alternatives ?
what will be the best fuel to use in it ?
what shall be the run in procedure ?
Iam planing to use it in a micro telemaster kit v2
is this kit idle for it or can you guys recommend a better one
please help
04-16-2014, 10:33 AM
#523
They have idle size props? Never heard of such a thing. If you push a normal igniter on the head it will glow while you are pushing it. This works till your hand gets tired. They sell them at Cox International for about ten bucks.
04-16-2014, 12:25 PM
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Hello thanks for the reply i was thinking can i just connect my own clips into wires from a 1.5 v battery and connect the negative to the body and positive to the head
04-16-2014, 02:19 PM
#525
Yep, whatever stays on. Positive or negative doesn't matter for the glow plugs. The 1 & 1/2 V does. Alligator clips, or whatever is fine if it doesn't short out. I think Idle may be translated wrong, may be "correct" or "right" I can only guess. My wife says funny stuff still once in a while, so I am used to this.