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Old 06-20-2014, 06:42 PM
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I have a Novarossi .21 buggy engine (Ron Paris modified) that I considered putting a marine head on and stuffing it in a hydrofoil boat. Or buy a buggy/Truggy. It's a bump start engine so extra equipment is needed to run it. A pullstart crankshaft is like $80 plus the cost of the backplate and pull starter, no thanks. I'm probably more interested in selling that engine to someone that'll race it. I'm not a racer, just got a deal on the engine.
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Enya diesels start at the .11CXD and go up to .25 in two cycle and the .36 4-cycle.
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I may have a flywheel for that Nova Rossi. I can ask around for a marine jacket. I can say Nova Rossi has the dominate engine for .40 outboard class. Those tunnels fly. There is also a hot carbon pipe the boys are running to make those engines scream
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I will not be giving away my glow engines any time soon. I just purchased 21 gallons of glow fuel at a killer price, I wont elaborate so you cant be jealous. Here are a few
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:52 PM
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I may have a flywheel for that Nova Rossi. I can ask around for a marine jacket. I can say Nova Rossi has the dominate engine for .40 outboard class. Those tunnels fly. There is also a hot carbon pipe the boys are running to make those engines scream
Mines an old BX21 3.5cc. Has the boost chamber backplate and fitting under the carb, no provision for a starter. It has the predecessor to the R7 conrod, only real difference is mine isn't knife edged like the R7 is. It's the short stroke 5-port version, good for about 38,000rpm.
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All this talk about engines and I don't even fly. LoL. Well, I've flown twice on a buddy box. 2 years ago.
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Come on over we will get you flying
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hm i like the changes, the small stuff flies electric and the bigger stuff with gas, just swapped my last nitro airplane (gp reactor) from nitro to gas and hopefully soon sap my raptor 30 from glow to gas (once i find a way besides os gt15)

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Originally Posted by jeffie8696
Come on over we will get you flying
It's hard to find time... My flying buddy and I both have 15mo old toddlers and my wife works every other weekend. I'll get my AMA card and try to get to the field next year.
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My buddy and I both have 15 month olds and it is hard to find time. So familiar and so long ago. That 15 month old today and 15 years old tomorrow. One thing I can say. When my 44 year old was 15 months old I had some engines. Would you believe some of those engines are still around. My friend from the day had some of my old engines. I flew one of these old engines this past week end. Perhaps in thirty years there will be some old electric motors around?
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Originally Posted by koastrc
My buddy and I both have 15 month olds and it is hard to find time. So familiar and so long ago. That 15 month old today and 15 years old tomorrow. One thing I can say. When my 44 year old was 15 months old I had some engines. Would you believe some of those engines are still around. My friend from the day had some of my old engines. I flew one of these old engines this past week end. Perhaps in thirty years there will be some old electric motors around?
Yeah, I hear ya there. I'm enjoying every minute I can with him and hopefully someday (but not too soon) get to take him flying/boating/driving something RC. Other than the noise he has shown curiosity in my cars.
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I'd say glow is dead for anything under a .40 sized aircraft. Sure, there will still be guys flying small stuff until the end of time, but it's now a niche aspect of the hobby. A huge part of the "smaller" end of glow was the beginner modeller. 40 sized models were so popular because most trainers would use that size of an engine, and then transfer the gear to their first sport aircraft soon after.

There's no need to start out on glow any more, and with the cost of electric so incredibly low, why would you? Working on small engines doesn't harken back to the newcomers youth or appeal to childhood dreams of 1/2A control-liners ; It's a totally different generation.
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Some will be flying electric and gas while others will be stuck with boxes of glow engines, no glow fuel, and dust on your airplanes.

I'm sure the town horseshoe maker was laughing at the weirdo trying to sell his steam automobile.
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Glow fuel is cheap, and most engines will run without nitro. Mix up some fuel for $4-6 a gallon and have a hayday. I'll never have dust accumulating on my engines or aircraft, watercraft, or miniature automobiles. As long as I can walk, hear, smell, and talk... I'll run glow engines. Electric would be a huge expense to change over to and frankly, I like the smell of glow fuel. Just my preference though.
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Horseshoe maker. That is good. Funny that I just sold my house that was --a buggy shop, and horseshoeing shop just before I bought it. A steam engine would have some kind of value wouldn't it? Some cities around here are charging $7 a gallon for gasoline, although here it is just over $6, then there is premium. Nevertheless, a .15 would not use much fuel. Those 2000 and huge Supertigers days may be numbered, but they may still sell more than the little .10s and .049s now.
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hey, read your post and was wondering where you find kits/plans for the small glow engines ? I've been out of the hobby for a while but still have a bunch of 10/15 sized motors but can't find airframes to put them in. I've got plenty of space to fly small airplanes and I just don't care for the electric stuff.
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I only have one .10 sized engine, everything else is .29 and larger. Everything is or will be set up to run 5% fuel. I'm totally fine running that fuel even at 1.5oz/min. I won't be flying the big engines much, they will be on boats most likely. They will use less fuel there. The .10-.90 are at risk of being flown and subsequently crashed. My buddy is a 1/2a guy, has a bunch of those little Foras, Cox, AP, and other micro engines. His buddy's buddy has a Pageboy running a TD .020. Pretty cool to see those little guys run. 25/25 fuel smells a lot different than 5/20 or 10/20 after the muffler. Smells better in the jug.
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SIG still sells small kits and I have converted some electric ARFs to glow.
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I'm gonna build a kit for my big Fox, and I think I'll build from a kit something small and sleek that will scoot with a fast .11; I really want an Ultra .11CX AAC Enya. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself because I still need to get a better radio.
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Despite myself I have become a "radio snob" , not really a snob, a "premium radio advocate" yea that's it.
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To be honest, my j3 cub will die with a glow engine bolted to her, as will my top flite mustang and 4star. All 4 strokes and all dependable.
The electrics in my stable are growing however.

I do see a change in RCU too. The numbers seem to be down or something. It just seems quieter on this site. Rcgroups and the electric talk is bang bang all day.
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Back in the 60's, 1/2a to .15 size RC planes were very popular because the proportional radio gear of the day was very expensive, so folks flew simpler radio systems that used servos with limited power. These less expensive systems were well suited to smaller airframes. Plenty of plans are available for these smaller planes. Check the AMA plans library, and the model magazines like Flying Models.

I much prefer .15 size and smaller for these ease of build and economy.
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Originally Posted by Aiden88
Some will be flying electric and gas while others will be stuck with boxes of glow engines, no glow fuel, and dust on your airplanes.

I'm sure the town horseshoe maker was laughing at the weirdo trying to sell his steam automobile.
They still sell steam engines. Very very large ones.
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Originally Posted by Aiden88
Some will be flying electric and gas while others will be stuck with boxes of glow engines, no glow fuel, and dust on your airplanes.
You got that all wrong, it will be the other way around. When we run out of gas, and lithium for the batteries, everyone will rely on biomethanol....
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Since i've gotten into this hobby i've only flown electric. I would love to try a small nitro plane. But I fly at the local park and would be scared the cops would chase me away.
For cars, its nitro all the way. I could not see myself driving an electric rc.
The bad thing about batteries is that you are charging it for close to one hour for 8-10 mins of flyiing.
I do agree that nitro is very expensive. Around here in NYC its about $ 21- 25 a gallon.


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