Question for you older guys...
10-01-2015, 06:49 AM
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When I started OS engines were "cheap japanese" engines.
They weren't particularly powerful or durable. Fox and K&B
were the good engines at the time. As time went by, OS got
better, reaching their peak while making the SF and FS
series engines. Their slow downhill slide started with the
introduction of the ABN engines. Their surpass engines
(except the pumped ones) continued to be very good.
Now there are no OS engines I would want to buy new.
Saito's started off a little crummy but got better in time.
Their glow engines have consistently improved over the
years. Lately saito's are the only ones I've been buying
from new production. I'm not yet impressed with their
gasoline engines.
I was never impressed with Enya and Supertigre engines,
so I didn't pay attention to their development.
I was impressed with early irvine engines. Later ones
were junk.
Royal engines started out being OK, then went downhill.
Signature series looked nice but ran poorly.
The only other engines I've been buying lately are unused
old ones available on ebay and at flea markets. There are
still lots of NIB Fox and K&B engines out there. Not so many
unused OS, Saito, Enya, Supertigre, etc.
Jenny
They weren't particularly powerful or durable. Fox and K&B
were the good engines at the time. As time went by, OS got
better, reaching their peak while making the SF and FS
series engines. Their slow downhill slide started with the
introduction of the ABN engines. Their surpass engines
(except the pumped ones) continued to be very good.
Now there are no OS engines I would want to buy new.
Saito's started off a little crummy but got better in time.
Their glow engines have consistently improved over the
years. Lately saito's are the only ones I've been buying
from new production. I'm not yet impressed with their
gasoline engines.
I was never impressed with Enya and Supertigre engines,
so I didn't pay attention to their development.
I was impressed with early irvine engines. Later ones
were junk.
Royal engines started out being OK, then went downhill.
Signature series looked nice but ran poorly.
The only other engines I've been buying lately are unused
old ones available on ebay and at flea markets. There are
still lots of NIB Fox and K&B engines out there. Not so many
unused OS, Saito, Enya, Supertigre, etc.
Jenny
10-01-2015, 12:32 PM
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Sort of reminds me of an old German woman at the grocery store who ran her shopping cart into me and pushed me into a large display stack of canned beans, or whatever. My wife was a few feet away and saw it all. Those old women would also hit the backs of your ankles with their carts too if you got too slow.
10-01-2015, 02:02 PM
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I tend to disagree concerning the aforementioned decline in OS quality, I have 4 LA's and a .56 Alpha and an older Surpass II. All are fine engines. The only fourstrokes I have are OS and Saito. Who could not love that cute little feller? My Saito .30 is on a white LT 25.
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10-02-2015, 03:17 AM
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Sort of reminds me of an old German woman at the grocery store who ran her shopping cart into me and pushed me into a large display stack of canned beans, or whatever. My wife was a few feet away and saw it all. Those old women would also hit the backs of your ankles with their carts too if you got too slow.
Jenny i like what you wrote.
10-02-2015, 04:56 AM
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That was the very early .30's that were the same approximate size as the .40 and .45. I should have qualified that by saying the this .30 is an early little ..30. This may give you an idea of the size difference between the early .40 and the little FA .40 a and the FA .40a and the little .30. I don't have a picture of the little .30 beside a .40 or .45. Picture #3 is the removable head .45 that followed the open rocker Saitos, I think.
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10-13-2015, 08:21 PM
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Supposedly, the Bolt's firewall is laminated ply of less-than-sterling pedigree. IOW, not 5-ply "aircraft grade". That's one of the reasons a bigger engine is not such a great idea.
I have been promised a hardly-used 1.20 Surpass II. It was a pumper, but supposedly has been modded to run without that abortion. If I can get it to run on the bench, I might just try it.
Otherwise, a Saito 1.00 or 1.25 is in the cards.
Thanks again for all the responses… although I admit to missing the connection with the old German lady/shopping cart thing.
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Never mind, got it now. Didn't read far enough ahead.
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10-13-2015, 08:28 PM
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Check out the used engines here. http://www.brucercengines.com/four_stroke.html Also note the rating system he uses. If buying used, I think this is a pretty good source.
Ken
Ken
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10-16-2015, 07:53 PM
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Nope! she's not even allowed to go near it,let alone sit on it.This is a man's world
ps she does'nt like the small patch sown on the back of my leather jacket collar.It says 'scream if you want to go faster'
ps she does'nt like the small patch sown on the back of my leather jacket collar.It says 'scream if you want to go faster'
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10-17-2015, 03:41 AM
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Great lookin Duke there Pete. I'll bet that left exhaust is mighty short. So you pronounce Saito, Sah eeto, and say Fora instead of the incorrect, forums. Is that a ham sandwich stuck on the gas tank? I was rubbin it into my son about my 70.5hp Sporty having one more foot pound of torque than his 150hp R-1.
I was rubbin it into my son about my 70.5hp Sporty having one more foot pound of torque than his 150hp R-1.
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10-17-2015, 04:06 AM
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10-17-2015, 07:57 AM
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Pete- love the patch about screaming to go faster. I'll remember to use that line with my wife when out in the S-2000. I dated a girl once who was the perfect backseater. She knew how to lean and how to hang on no matter what. She was always yelling for me to go faster. She was a fearless thing.
Never had a Ducati, so you'll have to convince me on them. I'm listening. I admit that is a fine looking motorcycle. Gotta ask- why the double rear fenders....or why the rear fender so high? Seems to give it a dirt bike look in a way maybe. Can you get down low enough with that seat? The last bikes I rode had long banana seats. I could slide my rump back and lean forward easily.
Never had a Ducati, so you'll have to convince me on them. I'm listening. I admit that is a fine looking motorcycle. Gotta ask- why the double rear fenders....or why the rear fender so high? Seems to give it a dirt bike look in a way maybe. Can you get down low enough with that seat? The last bikes I rode had long banana seats. I could slide my rump back and lean forward easily.
10-17-2015, 10:36 PM
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Thanks dave it's a nice handling bike,pin sharp steering and feed back.That's a freshly scrubbed in michelin pilot sport 4 on the back and you'll notice it's been worn right to the sidewall nearly,i'll get to the last 4mm on both sides in due course.Bit's of the last rear tyre you can see stuck to the underside of the rear fender.Your 70hp would stack up well over here compared to your sons 150hp yamaha r1 because none of the young guys here that ride them often take the risk and flick the wrist for more than a few seconds.Get caught over here skylarking,or hooning as it's known here,and you'll find yourself wearing gummint supplied jewellery and maybe your bike thru the crusher,i'd dive in before they crush my duke.
10-17-2015, 11:00 PM
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Ok barry i'll try and explain as brief as i can.I can no longer ride big horsepower jap inline fully faired missiles like dave's son does.When they hit the rev limiter the red mist descends and the ex racer comes out to play,that fool has cost me a lotta money so i came up with a horsepower limit for myself and a non faired m/c because once you get over the old ton it gets uncomfortable.I wanted something that sounded good at lower revs to go with the lower speeds and still feel good,the result is the picture you saw and the longer i ride it the more i like it.To get the rubber hissing on tarmac that dave speaks of we have to sneak off to some remote hilly areas that are little more than sealed goat trails,very bumpy in parts so thats why i spent a lot of money and time dialling the suspension in to suit.Yeh the high rear fender looks odd but i can't see that bit when i'm riding itthe lower one is called a 'hugger' and what that does is keep the back of your engine free of rubber when the weather is hot or mud etc when it's raining,they handle and feel brilliant in the wet.I might take another photo from a different angle there is lots of room to get yourself tucked down if you want to plus unlike the old banana seats you don't easily slide backwards when you get up it on the throttle so the seat is easy to slide from side to side on.
Good on your wife for riding rc
the lower one is called a 'hugger' and what that does is keep the back of your engine free of rubber when the weather is hot or mud etc when it's raining,they handle and feel brilliant in the wet.I might take another photo from a different angle there is lots of room to get yourself tucked down if you want to plus unlike the old banana seats you don't easily slide backwards when you get up it on the throttle so the seat is easy to slide from side to side on.Good on your wife for riding rc
10-18-2015, 03:34 AM
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10-19-2015, 04:19 AM
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Dyna beads are the best thing since sliced bread but your to modern for mei'm running spoked wheels and tubes so no go.That's a pretty snazzy(aussie word for nifty or flash looking)plane hanger you got there.Of course the plane would look a lot better if the 62 was hanging out the side and you'd converted it to a taildragger for clearance so you could run a decent apc two blader,have you flown it yet?
i'm running spoked wheels and tubes so no go.That's a pretty snazzy(aussie word for nifty or flash looking)plane hanger you got there.Of course the plane would look a lot better if the 62 was hanging out the side and you'd converted it to a taildragger for clearance so you could run a decent apc two blader,have you flown it yet?
