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Old 05-07-2004, 10:15 AM
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Default Saito 82 vs ys 63

I want to purchase a new four stroke for the funtana. I was wondering if anybody had ran the 82 yet and if it has the same or more power than the ys 63.
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Old 05-07-2004, 10:51 AM
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Default RE: Saito 82 vs ys 63

The Saito 82 first shipped Monday of this week. I doubt anyone has useful information on it at this point. If you want to get the new Saito you will have to take a chance with the rest of us.

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The Saito 82 first shipped Monday of this week. I doubt anyone has useful information on it at this point. If you want to get the new Saito you will have to take a chance with the rest of us.

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Or just go ahead and get the Saito 91 or 100. How much more $$ is it? The only advantage is that maybe the 82 bolts in the Funtana's nose without chopping and grinding things. From what I hear the Saito 82 should out perform the YS63. I have the FuntanaS with the YS63 running an APC 14-4W, sea-level, and 30% nitro. Very nice combo.
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You should be happy with either choice....but remember "pressurized fuel system"!
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Old 05-07-2004, 10:24 PM
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Try a 13x4W on it! It'll jump out of the hover....just watch WOT.
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Joe;
Try a 13x4W on it! It'll jump out of the hover....just watch WOT.
I've tried the 13-4W first and 14-4W second on a new FuntanaS and have too few flights on the 14-4W to tell the difference (4-5). They both work great actually. The 13-4W does rev higher, but with 30% nitro at sea level, the 14-4W rev's pretty high too. I need more time to experiment with both. I finally bought a good tach so the truth will be revealed about my setup next time I fly. BTW, I rarely have either prop at WOT, plenty O' torque.
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Default RE: Saito 82 vs ys 63

I have a friend that has a .82 I am waiting for him to get his broken in. that way we can cmopair RPMS againest my YS63. He is running 30% and I am running 20%.

I haven't checked his RPMS yet but I say they are real close in power.
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Default RE: Saito 82 vs ys 63

I do not know for sure, but I would figure the Saito 82 would be more powerful than the YS 63. If not, YS is definately doing it right, and Saito isn't doing it enough (grin)!
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Does anyone have the YS63FZ using an APC 14-4W? I'd like to know what RPM's you are getting at WOT.
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When I was running my YS63 w/ a 14x4W on mine I was getting somewhere in the low 10,000 mark. I don't remember exactly though.
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When I was running my YS63 w/ a 14x4W on mine I was getting somewhere in the low 10,000 mark. I don't remember exactly though.
That's what I was getting when I leaned it out to max but my engine only has a gallon through it so I put it back rich. Also I noticed leaning it out for high end made the low end transition bad. So I ended up tuning the high end needle to make a good transition. Until the engine is broken in more, I need to keep it rich. I'm getting about 9500 RPM right now. I think maybe I should switch back to the 13-4W until it's broken in better.
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Old 08-02-2004, 11:08 AM
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Hey, can i revive this thread has anyone had any further experiwnce woth the Saito 82. Right now i think i am leaning toward the YS
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Default RE: Saito 82 vs ys 63

My .82, after 30 some oz of fuel turns an APC 14x6 at 9,000 and there's probably a couple of hundred more there after some more time.
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I have run both at my 5000ft elevation.Both motors on 20/20 fuel.The YS63 turns the APC 13x4W at 10,550rpm.Tha Saito 82 turns the APC 14x4W at 10,300rpm.The 82 is stronger and has great low end grunt.All this with out the hassle of a pressurized system.
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Default RE: Saito 82 vs ys 63

How many Revs do you reckon you drop at 5000 Ft 10,300 sounds perfect.
Although people recomend the 14X4W for the Saito 72 i think it may be just a little too much.
Mine runs 9,300 with 20% and the same prop but i am disapointe with the responsiveness.
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Pressurized system a hassle? Once you plumb it correctly I believe it becomes your best friend. I have yet to get into a pinch on the deck doing 3D manuevers and I credit the pressurized system for that. It's very reliable. Never a dead stick either. In fact, if I had a choice between the YS 63 and the Saito 82, I'd only take the Saito if I could put a cline reg on it.

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I'm with ya Joe! I'd take the Saito if it was attached to a Zebco...
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:47 AM
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Joe, what kind of a tach did you buy (good one...)????

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Hey Sam,


What would you need a $240 fishing sinker for?!
Or is it the bait, or the hook?

If it is attached to a Daiwa, could it be better?


The Saito .82 is not at all a bad engine.
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Someone on another thread says he is getting 11,300+ on his 14X4W with the YS, he did not say which fuel but that sounds a bit high to me.
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Most of the high YS numbers are using 30% nitro.I do not think pressurized is a hassle just more to go wrong.Heck I live 25 miles from YS service center.Lots of us up here use them.At this altitude power is a problem so we are always looking for low weight to power numbers.The Saito 82 really fits the bill.She is lighter then the 72 with a good 20% more power.Mine is on a Extreme Flight Edge and she has not dead sticked ever-and I 3D the crap out of it.As far as sea level numbers if you use 15% fuel it should be close-I am using 20%
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Well 10,300 up there is pretty good. The only hesitation for me is the responsiveness which compared to the YS is pretty poor, but as imentioned in my earlier post i think that the 72 with a 14X4W is about as high as you can go and so i would imagine the responsiveness on the 82 would significantley better.

I think it is gonna be the Saito. I can't help but theink with the aditional capacity that it will be the more powerfull and it is slightly lighter so what the heck.

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ORIGINAL: Ernie Misner

Joe, what kind of a tach did you buy (good one...)????

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I have a Glo BEE. They are really accurate, I compared it to one of the best and it tracked it exactly to the RPM.

A YS 63 turning 11,300 on 30% is possible but it has to be in cooler temps. Also the transition is not that great. The 13-4W is much better. I turn a 13-4W at 11,400 RPM using 30% heli. It's set on the rich side too. The transition is very good.
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Dar;
I think you are the only one who got it!!! Saito's are good motors. You cant go wrong.

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Both my 63's and my 53 turns in the mid 11's. The 63's fly well on the 14x4w but the lower end spool up is much better on the 13x4w. I was using the 13x4w on my 53 but have since gone to the 12.25x3.75. My little 53 has been the bomb. Takes a lickin and keeps on tickin. It s on plane 7.
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