Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
02-02-2005, 01:43 PM
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Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
I just read a positve review in an Argentine magazine about a new national brand motor called the Snorer 49. I am no engine pro so I wanted to run these numbers by you guys to see how this engine measures up to some of the bigger brands
Weight
Motor 390 grams muffler 70 grams, 460 grams total
RPM´s
Prop 0%nitro 5% nitro low end RPM´s
Master 11X6 11,410 11.490 3,670
Master 11X7.5 10,260 10,320 3,490
APC 11X6 10,810 10,870 3,580
One thing I like about this motor is that the muffler can be setup on the right or left side (this would be great for my twin project this year) I believe the price of the engine is in the $80 range. Imported engines are really expensive here in Argentina (an OS 40LA will set you back about $100). So if the motor was bought here it would be a bargain at $80.
Weight
Motor 390 grams muffler 70 grams, 460 grams total
RPM´s
Prop 0%nitro 5% nitro low end RPM´s
Master 11X6 11,410 11.490 3,670
Master 11X7.5 10,260 10,320 3,490
APC 11X6 10,810 10,870 3,580
One thing I like about this motor is that the muffler can be setup on the right or left side (this would be great for my twin project this year) I believe the price of the engine is in the $80 range. Imported engines are really expensive here in Argentina (an OS 40LA will set you back about $100). So if the motor was bought here it would be a bargain at $80.
02-02-2005, 05:07 PM
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In RC Report an OS .46AX turned a Zinger 11-6 at 12,500 rpm on Omega 10% fuel.
Is the engine a ball bearing or a plain bearing? What type carb does it have, fuel metering or air-bleed? It would appear that the Snorer is set for no or low nitro as evidenced by the 0% and 5% readings. For the price it looks OK, especially for a twin.
Got any pictures?
By the way, what's a Bama boy doing down in Argentina? (Or is it vice versa?) You're a long, long way from Tuscaloosa.
Is the engine a ball bearing or a plain bearing? What type carb does it have, fuel metering or air-bleed? It would appear that the Snorer is set for no or low nitro as evidenced by the 0% and 5% readings. For the price it looks OK, especially for a twin.
Got any pictures?
By the way, what's a Bama boy doing down in Argentina? (Or is it vice versa?) You're a long, long way from Tuscaloosa.
02-02-2005, 05:53 PM
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
The website is http://www.snorerengines.com/
Unfortunately it is only in spanish.
It is a ball bearing engine. As far as type of carb, you got me. Like I said I am not an engine guy. I can read the description of the carb in spanish but I dont really know if it would translate as fuel metering or airbleeding (seeing as I have really no idea what that is in English either). Here are some pics so maybe you can see for yourself.
My guess is, is that it is made for low nitro fuel. Fuel with more than 5% nitro here gets pretty pricey. In fact the highest content I have even seen is 15%.
Ed, I am a Bama boy, born and raised in Mobile. I thought these motors would go great on a Twinstar since I can change the side of the muffler. Plus I always like to buy national products when they are available.
Hobbsy, I have a deal for you. I will be in the US in late March. If you want one I will buy one and mail it to you when I get to the US. I´ll do it all at cost. The only condition is that you run it through the ropes and tell me if it is a performer or not. They do plan on selling these outside of Argentina, but I imagine it will be hard for them to compete with mass produced and marketed products available in the US. Let me know if you would be interested in that or not.
Unfortunately it is only in spanish.
It is a ball bearing engine. As far as type of carb, you got me. Like I said I am not an engine guy. I can read the description of the carb in spanish but I dont really know if it would translate as fuel metering or airbleeding (seeing as I have really no idea what that is in English either). Here are some pics so maybe you can see for yourself.
My guess is, is that it is made for low nitro fuel. Fuel with more than 5% nitro here gets pretty pricey. In fact the highest content I have even seen is 15%.
Ed, I am a Bama boy, born and raised in Mobile. I thought these motors would go great on a Twinstar since I can change the side of the muffler. Plus I always like to buy national products when they are available.
Hobbsy, I have a deal for you. I will be in the US in late March. If you want one I will buy one and mail it to you when I get to the US. I´ll do it all at cost. The only condition is that you run it through the ropes and tell me if it is a performer or not. They do plan on selling these outside of Argentina, but I imagine it will be hard for them to compete with mass produced and marketed products available in the US. Let me know if you would be interested in that or not.
02-02-2005, 07:56 PM
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
Gringo:
The engine itself, as Hobbsy said, looks like a series that MVVS built a while back that allowed positioning the exhaust where you wanted it, so long as it was done before running he engine.
The carb, by your picture, is a two needle unit, and looks like a copy of one that Webra used a few years ago.
Bill.
The engine itself, as Hobbsy said, looks like a series that MVVS built a while back that allowed positioning the exhaust where you wanted it, so long as it was done before running he engine.
The carb, by your picture, is a two needle unit, and looks like a copy of one that Webra used a few years ago.
Bill.
02-02-2005, 08:51 PM
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
When you say you have to adjust the exhaust before running it, I assume you mean breaking it in. So once you break it in with the exhause setup one way you have to leave it setup that way?
02-02-2005, 09:10 PM
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
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Right. Put it where you want it before you break it in. Once the piston has seated in the bore moving it to a new position would require it to reseat. You might get away with it, but it would definitely take some life from the engine.
Bill.
Right. Put it where you want it before you break it in. Once the piston has seated in the bore moving it to a new position would require it to reseat. You might get away with it, but it would definitely take some life from the engine.
Bill.
11-04-2010, 04:09 PM
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The new Snorer's are out....
Features constructive and constitutive
Snorer Star 50
Advance snorer 55 Series III
Cylinder liner: ABC System
Crank: Made of alloy steel machined on CNC lathes, with tolerances to one hundredth of a millimeter, tempered and rectified as per plan. Crankshaft Assembly: two high speed bearings.
Carburetor: double-needle system (high and low).
Carter / Cylinder: Made of cast aluminum high-pressure injection, in two pieces joined with four millimeter allen screws (3x15).
Cylinder liner: In special bronze SAE 64, with subsequent treatment of hard chromium aircraft, (3 hundredths of thickness).
Cranks: Forged 6000 Series Aluminum Hard with special bushings sintered, according to international standards SAE 64 and SAE 65.
Machining: All machining of each component, are made with automatic lathes and CNC programmable computer, (CNC).
The tolerances are set to one hundredth of a millimeter, except for the internal parts of the carburetor which are determined to one thousandth of a millimeter.
General appearance of the motor:
Color anodized cylinder head.
Cylinder and crankcase shoting finely sanded micro hard glass particles.
All threads and bolts are metric parameterized.
Technical Features snorer Motion 47
Diameter 21.60 mm
Carrera 22.00 mm
Displacement 8.06 cc
Value Diameter / Stroke 1
Thickness shirt 1.60 mm
Exhaust opening 150 º
Opening admission 132 °
While opening the bottom port 112 °
While opening the rotary valve (desp. PM inf.) 46 °
Rotary valve closure (desp. PM sup.) 33 °
Weight piston / pin / rod 14.80 grams
Diameter internal pin 2.50 mm
External pin diameter 5.00 mm
Crankshaft Diameter 15.00 mm
Diameter of rotary valve 10.00 mm
Front ball bearing (19.00 x 7.00 x 6.00) mm
Main ball bearing (28, 0 x 15.00 x 7.00) mm
Crankcase cover screw 3 x 10 mm (Allen)
Cylinder head screw 3 x 15 mm (Allen)
Screw cylinder 3 x 30 mm (Allen)
Screw propeller Metric 7
Radio Control Carburetor Double Needle
High Venturi Control Line (inside diameter) 6.00 mm
Weight exhaust / muffler 108 gr.
Weight Motor for Radio Control (no escape) 384 gr.
Motor Weight Control Line (no muffler) 358 gr.
Power 1.55 bhp @ 13,000 rpm
Advance Technical Features snorer RC 55 Series III
Diameter 22.70 mm
Carrera 22.60 mm
Displacement 9.16 cc
Value Diameter / Stroke 1
Thickness shirt 1.50 mm
Exhaust opening 150 º
Opening admission 132 °
While opening the bottom port 112 °
While opening the rotary valve (desp. PM inf.) 46 °
Rotary valve closure (desp. PM sup.) 33 °
Weight piston / pin / rod 14.80 grams
Diameter internal pin 2.50 mm
External pin diameter 5.00 mm
Crankshaft Diameter 15.00 mm
Diameter of rotary valve 10.00 mm
Front ball bearing (19.00 x 7.00 x 6.00) mm
Main ball bearing (28, 0 x 15.00 x 7.00) mm
Crankcase cover screw 3 x 10 mm (Allen)
Cylinder head screw 3 x 15 mm (Allen)
Screw cylinder 3 x 30 mm (Allen)
Screw propeller Metric 7
Radio Control Carburetor Double Needle
High Venturi Control Line (inside diameter) 6.00 mm
Weight exhaust / muffler 108 gr
Weight Motor for Radio Control (no escape) 384 gr
Motor Weight Control Line (no muffler) 358 gr
Power 12.800 @ 1.72 bhp / 13,300 rpm
RPM Performance snorer Star 50
Fuel Master 11 x 6 Master 10 x 6
0% Nitro (high) 12.100 12.500
5% Nitro (high) 12.800 13.100
0% Nitro (low) 2.800 2.950
5% Nitro (low) 3.100 3.300
Advance Performance snorer 55 RPM
Fuel Master 11 x 6 Master 10 x 6
0% Nitro (high) 12.350 12.800
5% Nitro (high) 13.200 13.600
0% Nitro (low) 2.800 2.950
5% Nitro (low) 3.100 3.300
If you Google the web site you can translate it to English, a little easier to read.
Features constructive and constitutive
Snorer Star 50
Advance snorer 55 Series III
Cylinder liner: ABC System
Crank: Made of alloy steel machined on CNC lathes, with tolerances to one hundredth of a millimeter, tempered and rectified as per plan. Crankshaft Assembly: two high speed bearings.
Carburetor: double-needle system (high and low).
Carter / Cylinder: Made of cast aluminum high-pressure injection, in two pieces joined with four millimeter allen screws (3x15).
Cylinder liner: In special bronze SAE 64, with subsequent treatment of hard chromium aircraft, (3 hundredths of thickness).
Cranks: Forged 6000 Series Aluminum Hard with special bushings sintered, according to international standards SAE 64 and SAE 65.
Machining: All machining of each component, are made with automatic lathes and CNC programmable computer, (CNC).
The tolerances are set to one hundredth of a millimeter, except for the internal parts of the carburetor which are determined to one thousandth of a millimeter.
General appearance of the motor:
Color anodized cylinder head.
Cylinder and crankcase shoting finely sanded micro hard glass particles.
All threads and bolts are metric parameterized.
Technical Features snorer Motion 47
Diameter 21.60 mm
Carrera 22.00 mm
Displacement 8.06 cc
Value Diameter / Stroke 1
Thickness shirt 1.60 mm
Exhaust opening 150 º
Opening admission 132 °
While opening the bottom port 112 °
While opening the rotary valve (desp. PM inf.) 46 °
Rotary valve closure (desp. PM sup.) 33 °
Weight piston / pin / rod 14.80 grams
Diameter internal pin 2.50 mm
External pin diameter 5.00 mm
Crankshaft Diameter 15.00 mm
Diameter of rotary valve 10.00 mm
Front ball bearing (19.00 x 7.00 x 6.00) mm
Main ball bearing (28, 0 x 15.00 x 7.00) mm
Crankcase cover screw 3 x 10 mm (Allen)
Cylinder head screw 3 x 15 mm (Allen)
Screw cylinder 3 x 30 mm (Allen)
Screw propeller Metric 7
Radio Control Carburetor Double Needle
High Venturi Control Line (inside diameter) 6.00 mm
Weight exhaust / muffler 108 gr.
Weight Motor for Radio Control (no escape) 384 gr.
Motor Weight Control Line (no muffler) 358 gr.
Power 1.55 bhp @ 13,000 rpm
Advance Technical Features snorer RC 55 Series III
Diameter 22.70 mm
Carrera 22.60 mm
Displacement 9.16 cc
Value Diameter / Stroke 1
Thickness shirt 1.50 mm
Exhaust opening 150 º
Opening admission 132 °
While opening the bottom port 112 °
While opening the rotary valve (desp. PM inf.) 46 °
Rotary valve closure (desp. PM sup.) 33 °
Weight piston / pin / rod 14.80 grams
Diameter internal pin 2.50 mm
External pin diameter 5.00 mm
Crankshaft Diameter 15.00 mm
Diameter of rotary valve 10.00 mm
Front ball bearing (19.00 x 7.00 x 6.00) mm
Main ball bearing (28, 0 x 15.00 x 7.00) mm
Crankcase cover screw 3 x 10 mm (Allen)
Cylinder head screw 3 x 15 mm (Allen)
Screw cylinder 3 x 30 mm (Allen)
Screw propeller Metric 7
Radio Control Carburetor Double Needle
High Venturi Control Line (inside diameter) 6.00 mm
Weight exhaust / muffler 108 gr
Weight Motor for Radio Control (no escape) 384 gr
Motor Weight Control Line (no muffler) 358 gr
Power 12.800 @ 1.72 bhp / 13,300 rpm
RPM Performance snorer Star 50
Fuel Master 11 x 6 Master 10 x 6
0% Nitro (high) 12.100 12.500
5% Nitro (high) 12.800 13.100
0% Nitro (low) 2.800 2.950
5% Nitro (low) 3.100 3.300
Advance Performance snorer 55 RPM
Fuel Master 11 x 6 Master 10 x 6
0% Nitro (high) 12.350 12.800
5% Nitro (high) 13.200 13.600
0% Nitro (low) 2.800 2.950
5% Nitro (low) 3.100 3.300
If you Google the web site you can translate it to English, a little easier to read.
11-04-2010, 04:59 PM
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Looks to me to be a copy of my MVVS GFSR. It would be totally sweet if it had interchangeable parts since I cant get a piston and liner. Price is right too, if its a quality product.
If they want to market to english speaking countries they really need to change that name.
If they want to market to english speaking countries they really need to change that name.
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
My take: MVVS with a new logo (badge engineering 
) and a new design silencer, with some detail changes on the high speed needle.
I wonder if they bought some dies etc from MVVS to bring the range back to life?
I hope parts are available and interchangeable with some of the Czech made MVVS engines.
) and a new design silencer, with some detail changes on the high speed needle.I wonder if they bought some dies etc from MVVS to bring the range back to life?
I hope parts are available and interchangeable with some of the Czech made MVVS engines.
11-04-2010, 05:32 PM
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That is amazing it is like they beat MECOA to the engine manufacturing stuff. Usually MECOA is like the first to scarf up all the stuff like this to make a particular brand of engine with.
I hope they do OK, it might be fun to use one of these engines.
I hope they do OK, it might be fun to use one of these engines.
11-04-2010, 05:37 PM
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I think it would be interesting , Ihave Chech , Japanese, Chinese, Russian, English , Canadian and of course North American, so a South American engine would fit in nice.
11-04-2010, 07:17 PM
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
ORIGINAL: jeffie8696
If they want to market to english speaking countries they really need to change that name. [img][/img]
If they want to market to english speaking countries they really need to change that name. [img][/img]
I agree, and snoozer would be a bad name also. Maybe "hyper" or "speedy" would work better.
11-04-2010, 07:31 PM
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Lets all think of cool names we would call it and sent the info to the company.
Hmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carrera. Your turn.
Hmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carrera. Your turn.
11-04-2010, 09:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: Broken Wings
Is this the correct translation?
Is this the correct translation?
Judging by the photos it certainly seems to be a copy of the MVVS. The Double Stars are a dedicated CL stunt engine and IIRC use a baffled piston and look quite different, more like a Stalker.
11-05-2010, 09:28 AM
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RE: Argentine motor ¨Snorer 49¨
BW sent me a link to this engine and this last item in the specs is most Interesting. If I read the specs correctly this is sort of a long stroke engine with a 21.6mm bore and 22mm stroke.
Manufacturer: Peugeot
Manufacturer: Peugeot