RHarding

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Jerry C

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I have a question. How much should a 60 blue head be worth? This one has a factory installed perry pump, and carburetor. It has not been run, there is no box, or instructions.
Jerry

NM2K

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I don't know, Jerry. I really think it depends upon what others are willing to pay - which is obvious.

To me, the Perry equipped NIB G60 would be worth less than the standard G60 Bluehead. Why? Because the diaphgrams used in the pump/regulator portion of the set up dry out over time and crack. A really old one, if it hasn't failed already, is probably going to fail when put in use. I'd rather have an engine that could run without pump replacement parts. Besides, I've never seen that much of a gain in power, in spite of the larger carb, with the pumped set ups.

Use this logic and buy it cheaper from the seller, after convincing him of the logic. <G>

JohnB96041

I also have a Super Tigre G60 Blue Head. Runs great, but am looking for the needle that is on the right side of the carb when facing the prop. Any ideas where I can purchase the needle? Help

John Brown
580 588-2456
Apache, Ok 73006
580 588-2456

RHarding

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Anyone out there know where I can get the heads anadized blue? I have 4 ST Blue head 60,s and 3 of them have the blue worn pretty bad.

Richard

DerFly

Well, I'll chime in here. I've got two G60 blueheads The instruction sheet reads "G60 PDP abc". The piston is flat topped and without ring. These were bought about '83.

Pictures later!

Sport_Pilot

Yep the last versions were PDP. I have a plain baffled loop and STS ported versions. Had another baffled version which I lost from a flyaway in 77.

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I Have a G60 blue head that does infact have a bar on the top of the piston. I pulled it apart to get the motor to break free. I now have this motor running and its absolute screemer that idles like no other engine I have ever owned. This is the most reliable engine in my closet by far.

w8ye

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Most Blue Head 60's had the Baffled piston

NM2K

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This is just the opposite of my experience. I too have handled a bunch of G60 Blueheads, dating back to 73 or so, and have never seen one with a baffled piston. Strange.

The baffled piston version was developed for control line stunt where the 4/2 cycle break was a mandatory feature. All of the pattern G60s that I saw were baffleless.

I'm not calling anyone a liar. You saw what you saw, as far as I'm concerned. That's good enough for me. But it does make me scratch my head since it is directly contrary to my experiences with the engine.

Frankly, I lost interest in the G60 Bluehead once the Schneurle ported engines gained dominance in pattern, so what came out later in G60s is something that I am not aware of at all. It makes no sense that they would back up in technology and leave the flat piston for a baffled piston. I'd love to learn the true story/history of these engines.

My G60 Bluehead is rather grungy looking (it was that way when I bought it from a friend), but it runs great. It is ABC/ring and honks well with or without a pipe.


Ed Cregger

DarZeelon

Ed,


Were those BlueHeads stamped, or cast in with a TST emblem (Travasi Super Tigre)?

If they were TST ported, their power should have been quite similar to a Schnürle ported engine.

Sport_Pilot

The stunt .60 engines were the V60 without the bolt one crankshaft housing. The early Bluehead G60 engines were baffled engines with more agressive timing than the stunt versions. The stunt engines had a big V on the side.

w8ye

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Too late for me. I traded mine for a OS 26 four stroke some years back. I cannot remember too many details. Seems like it had the little extra ports besides the main intake transfer ports.

There were several of them at the flying field when I was recently in the South off and on for 3 years. They all appeared to be loop engines from the outside? They were not mine and I didn't get too nosy.

DarZeelon

Jim,


This very closely resembles the PDP (Perry Directional Porting) version of this engine.

The PDP version, however, did have a piston baffle and was obviously loop-scavenged.

w8ye

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That was my assumption on the matter. There were a couple regular G60's floating around there too.

I'm blank about remembering any bolt-on front bearing housings?

I had a G21/40 and three G21/46's also and thoughts get intermingled between these engines.

Sport_Pilot

Ripped this off another website. From a foriegn collection. This is listed as a PDP version.

Kweasel

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I have one Blue head from the later 70s and an early Como 40 that has PDP slots with a baffled piston. All my other blue heads have no baffle, the oldest is a standard crossflow without a baffle, the others are either TST or PDP without a baffle. The only thing I didn't like about the blue heads was their tendency to spit a lot of fuel out of the carb making a mess on the airplane.

RHarding

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I have 5 ST bluehead 60's. 3 are baffled, one is ABC. The one I just bought from a fellow is a Series X G60. It appears to have very little time on it. The head is a 4 bolt. Carb is ST. I bought my first ST bluehead in 1973. Bought from a hobby shop new. I'm familiar with the baffle and ABC but not familiar with this Series X G60. The box has X.60 S.L. R/C on the side. Anyone familiar with this model please chime in. Anyone with a ST manual for this engine, I would like to get a copy. Be glad to pay for it. When was this engine built? The piston has a ring on it.

Thanks,

Richard

Sport_Pilot

Isn't that the X G60 the one Hanno Pretner used before OS sponsored him? Not sure, but I think it is a rear exhaust high torque motor. It needs a long pipe to run something like a 12-10 or 11-11 prop on a high speed pattern plane. Then again maybe he use the Enya, not sure about this at all.

RHarding

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The engine I have has a side exhaust.

Richard

Kweasel

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The X series were Supertigres early schneurle designs. They made side and rear exhaust versions in most sizes. They were only out for a few years before the S series became the standard side exhaust engines and the X series lived on in rear exhaust only.

trainermaster80

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I have 2 super tigre bluehead engines from 1972. Will sell 1)
Both have piston baffles and r/c exhaust baffels connected to carb barrel. Side of engine has 60 in a round circle. I had another just like the 2 i have now. A powerfull engine easy to start. Ran on 11/7 prop Andrews Sportmaster 60 plane flew great with athority.
p.s. the front crankcase is bolted on with 4 bolts which alows access to bearings & crankshaft for service. my engine seemed to never wear out. i sold it plane & engine to another modler
engines with pdp data are Perry Dependant Ported. probably invented by PERRY CARBS.
There were several engines that used this style porting. Schnurle porting was more popular & seems to be the standard today.
At 86 i will be selling all my trove of new in box engines & kits except 4 of each. Due to health problems Me & wife
KEEP EM FLYING TRAINERMASTER 80

CLBetten

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Hey w8ye, I know where one of your Blue Heads is. It's been a long time since the head was blue however. I like the ST swing muffler torpedo or baffled makes no measurable difference. The last plane I used it in for a good part of this year was a Somethin' Extra. Swinging a 12X4 prop was perfect. I like being different. Those engines have a unique tone. People are drawn to see why when they hear it flying.

trainermaster80

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Look in your yellow pages for plating company. Chrome or anodizing can be don by these companies. I may have an extra blue head somewhere in my stash of engines& kits. Will check after christmas week..
Trainermaster

vasek

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What's the ST Blue head 60 best APC prop size for classic Pattern flying (Super Kaos)? Is the prop shaft thread 5/16 x 24 ? Thanks