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Old 06-04-2018, 07:17 AM
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I'll have to dig around I may already have one. I bought a few Tru-Turns a while back for P-51 spinners, but don't know if I have a 7x1.
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Thanks for the heads up on the 182TD
It will be here Wednesday
i almost bought a used one for $550 yesterday.
This is better!
Stay tuned for pics!
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I still need to look into engines for the P-61. I don't think the NGH 38 CC will cut it as it is a much larger plane than the B-25. I think it will need a pair of 50CC, but don't think there are 4 strokes that big.
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Hey Dave, Thanks for the heads up. The 182 TD should be here Wednesday. I almost bought one for $550 yesterday. It was like new and boxed but I am far happier this way

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Originally Posted by Jesse Open View Post
Hey Dave, Thanks for the heads up. The 182 TD should be here Wednesday. I almost bought one for $550 yesterday. It was like new and boxed but I am far happier this way
You're welcome, Horizon sent me two E-mails about it because I,put one in my cart a while back. No can do right now, maybe later. Sorry about the Edit note, I hit Edit instead of quote, it's to easy to do.
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What would be the ideal spinner size for the 91 with a 13 x8?
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Probably a 2 1/4 or maybe 2 1/2
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At 6,000 rpm


Maple prop


Residual lube oil
I just tried my old High Compression Saito 150 with a newer CH Ignition and a MA Maple 18 x 6 prop. That is one stiff prop, no flex and the prop tightens down right now, no sponginess.
Saito 1.50 with 11.24 to 1 compression
Prop=== MA Maple 18 x 6
Exhaust===new revised cast muffler
Fuel===Wildcat 10% with 18% full syn.
CH Ignition set at 30 degrees BTDC
Max rpm at full throttle==7,200
Idle 1,900, throttle arm hit engine and that was that.
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Old 06-04-2018, 08:54 AM
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Sorry about the weather there. Fresh rolled field today!
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That spinner nut you have on that engine is what I am going to pickup, if they have it. I have at least 3 of them on planes so far and they are great.
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the Condor is a cool looking engine, I love the head, I have always wanted a Webra 80T ! so I almost bought the one in the RCU engine classifieds, but I chose not to because of the "no replacement parts clause" that come's with it,

The .58 CD is over an inch shorter in height than an OS .52.
that 58 is a chubby little thing LOL

BTW, be careful with True Turn, I bought a Shoulder bolt from them and it didn't Spin True,, LOL sorry for the pun, but it fit true

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the Condor is a cool looking engine, I love the head, I have always wanted a Webra 80T ! so I almost bought the one in the RCU engine classifieds, but I chose not to because of the "no replacement parts clause" that come's with it,



that 58 is a chubby little thing LOL

BTW, be careful with True Turn, I bought a Shoulder bolt from them and it didn't Spin True,, LOL sorry for the pun, but it fit true

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A good observation, thanks for that one

Yes, the Condor was pretty cool in it's day. The LHS ordered it for me when they first came out. The boxy, squarish look fit well with the overall look of the Fokker as well.
Not a real powerhouse but it was a good ,reliable running engine once fitted with the Mag type carb.
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"Condor'"
it was made in England, does the mean it needs a pusher prop to pull forward when mounted in the front ?


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Note the huge indicators for the US market
Jim you may be suffering from a touch of 'old fartitus'

Jesse i only use a starter as a last resort,should have made it plain that i always back flick saito's.As you know when the first mass produced and reliable japanese superbike hit the market it drove the last nail into the gasping british bike manufacturers coffin in 1970.Here's a pic of a 1973 model we just painted for the owner.It was a barn find in the US and is remarkably standard for it's age.You can still do the old ton on them all day today with no oil leaks and all the parts still in the cases.

ps dave i thought it was summer now where you are,you won't be riding the old jigger (harley) thru that mate.
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Okay onthe manly only starts.Same here with the back flip method it is a darn reliable and probably about the safest method to start Saito four strokes. I usually have a starter on hand especially on the two student in days at the field Really try to allow the students to handle their own starting chores but I do get nervous watching them with corded starters hooked up to marginal batteries. I like making things so fully contained starters get a little attention too

The Honda is a good find There are plenty of those around here still lurking in garages and barns. They were very popular around here as they brought motorcycling to many folks who were averse to kick starting The Brit bikes were well on their way to obscurity regardless of the “super bike” emerging. Interesting fact is that the Triumph/BSA triples were on the scene long before the Honda Four and could actually outrun the original Honda Four quite handily. But it did lack the electric knee and other refinements that indeed helped sway people to the Japanese appliances. The Rocket Three was not only very fast for its day but also handled and cornered brilliantly compared to the new Honda. Braking however was no match until a few years later.
All of this was exactly why I was drawn to them. The Brit bikes were easy to find and could be had for very little cash. They were basically pond and with a little ingenuity made into very reliable mounts that were a lot of fun to ride. Not to mention the joy of showing your heels to the “Superbikes” The Italian Ducatis and Moto Guzzi bikes cane along a bit later Never drawn to the Asian machinery. I have worked on plenty of them however, both mechanical and electrical. One memorable was doing a valve job on the 1000cc in-line six. All 24 itty bitty 16mm valves triple angle cut. Won’t forget that one !
The only Honda ever to reside in our garage is my wife’s 1972 450. She likes the electric starter a lot. Her other bike was 350 Ducati. She does her own maintenance on the Honda.
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Current temp is 63-f, those old K bikes are hard to find, most won't part with them. I had this T-4 .87, it turned a 14 x 6 at 9,900. It was supposed to be weak engine, there was nothing weak about it. A little heavy though. A standard one and a super charged one.
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Gave the pidgeon a light bat with a house broom on it's way out
Hi jesse yes i remember it as you do re the bikes,rode a rocket three quite a lot back then loved the ray gun mufflers and the sound they made.Also my 650 lightning.I think we should have a saito engined aeroplane scale contest here with some pics.I'll start the bidding with this effort,it's a pic of my edge 540v3 after i accidently locked the next door neighbours pidgeon in the shed overnight.
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Yikes!
A gift from nature. I understand pigeon can be quite tasty too.
Ran the partially finished test stand last night. I had made up the adjustable height fuel tank stand Sunday evening but spared the neighbor any after hours testing. Next comes the servo operated throttle and mounting the phototransistor in one of the sliding blocks. The temperature, rpm readout , glow power and throttle control will be remote control via an rc link.

For.now, the stand works very smoothly. Will save the electronics work for wintertime entertaining

Yessir, those Brit triples were smooth,fast and after all , darn reliable mounts.



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Someday I should get my Sherline stuff bench mounted and start doing some metal work. A bit out of practice though, and haven't had the patience to try to figure it all out yet. Other than a missing tailstock chuck, I have everything to get started with a 3 axis CNC mill and a lathe. Have yet to fire up the computer the software is on because I am missing the 25 pin cable that connects the PC to the control box. Seeing your engine stand though, I can do that! Don't know why I didn't think to make one like that since I have the tools, just need the stock.
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For sure!

If there is a metal scrap dealer in your area they often sell bits of stock. I like to post pictures mainly, hopefully to inspire others to make things. Machines are still out there often at very reasonable prices. A few years ago the synthetic geniuses in our public school system shut down most of the shop classes. My lathe came out of one of those unfortunate schools
A lot of nice machines went to market. My J series Bridgeport mill was a $100 aquisition that needed quite a bit of work but now runs like new.
In this area anyhow machines are affordable but you do have to hunt the stuff down.
Just another facet to a great hobby Too bad so many never seek the experience.
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That is one thing that irks me to no end. Way too much emphasis on sports and not enough on education. A school I drive by everyday is erecting a new building. Is it for classrooms? Nope, it's an $11,000,000 field house. How many children benefit from sports in that when they graduate from highschool they have skills that can get them a good job? The percentage is so low that essentially it is NONE! If that same amount were spent to build a few classrooms that taught Welding, or construction, there are companies that would be more than happy to donate equipment and materials. One classroom, with 4 sessions per day, 15 students per class, alternating Monday/Wednesday, and Tuesday/Thursday for different classes, with Fridays being a cleanup/restock day, would have 120 students graduating with skills that could essentially leave them with a good paying job for the rest of their lives, but instead they pisss it away on sports.


Irks me to no end, no wonder the US has fallen so far behind.
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The synthetic geniuses of academia have long fought against skilled trade options for young people. Bad for the university industry and diverts too many minds from the halls of indoctrination

They even come up with phrases like “Why work with your hands when you can work with your mind”
As if somehow the two are mutually exclusive.

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