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Old 08-24-2018, 12:02 AM
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Good luck getting hold of a saito fa115,incredibly friendly engine,it so nice to fly.Handrolled three paper cuban cigars are good when you need to mull over a saito engine tuning problem

Gary what size tanks do you normally fly with the fa82?

ps jim,have you ever seen some of the old charlie chaplin black and white movies? there's one where he's walking down this old cobblestone street and there's an open manhole cover everyone knows he's about to step in to,but instead he steps over it,slips on a banana peel and falls backwards down the hole.Does that sum up your wing retracts saga ?
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Good luck getting hold of a saito fa115,incredibly friendly engine,it so nice to fly.Handrolled three paper cuban cigars are good when you need to mull over a saito engine tuning problem

Gary what size tanks do you normally fly with the fa82?

ps jim,have you ever seen some of the old charlie chaplin black and white movies? there's one where he's walking down this old cobblestone street and there's an open manhole cover everyone knows he's about to step in to,but instead he steps over it,slips on a banana peel and falls backwards down the hole.Does that sum up your wing retracts saga ?
In most cases, 325 to 440 ml tanks. I do a LOT of flying at very low throttle settings. At those settings the .82 is pretty darn easy on glow fuel. Often, after a 10 to 15 minute flight I find the tank is nearly 1/2 full.

BTW, I do have a brand new FA 1.15 still in the box. I just prefer to have a spare engine on hand whenever I build a plane for a particular engine.

OK Jim, Next one is yours. But after that..... ..... ....
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:37 AM
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It sounds like you could use a 6 to 8 ounce tank and have about the right amount of fuel.
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Old 08-24-2018, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
It sounds like you could use a 6 to 8 ounce tank and have about the right amount of fuel.
I don't hog the air time when others are waiting to fly.
Some times, the flying is good enough and nobody else is waiting to fly so I push towards 20 minutes or until deadstick time.
My Sr Kadet had only a .62 and a 470 ml (16 oz) tank. I have had plenty of very long flights on that one .
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When I had the FG-11 in my T-clips, I would fly until I was bored and still have half a tank of fuel. Could fly an hour on 12 ounces.
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open View Post
My Sr Kadet had only a .62 and a 470 ml (16 oz) tank. I have had plenty of very long flights on that one .
With that much run time you could t doze off on those long flights!
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Old 08-24-2018, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
With that much run time you could t doze off on those long flights!
Not likely as I am doing very low and slow figure eights, touch and goes etc for a good part of that time. When you are below 10 or 12 feet for extended periods, often in stiff winds it is good to stay awake.

But I do take a lot of naps at the field.

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Old 08-24-2018, 07:35 AM
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How big are those tanks again? In ounces as I'm not going back to converting metric again. Did that flying in Germany.

I don't think Toyota has many short cabs anymore. They sure look better, imo. The Tacoma is big enough for me and is very good road vehicle for trips. We just toss stuff in the back of the cab, but it's big enough for someone to ride around town back there. I've loaded a lot of stuff in the bed and didn't think much about a larger one. I've seen the new Tundras, but I'm fine with what I have. I tend to hang on to whatever cars or trucks I buy. I have to hang on to the 05 S-2000 as they stopped making them. I gave up paying any attention to rumors of another 2 seater coming out of Honda.

I have a half finished 4*20 in the shop. I found a FA-30GK for that. NIB and paid $150 for it. I shortened each wing by one rib bay, and put in servos for each aileron. I hope I didn't make a mistake by adding counterbalances for the rudder and elevators, but they look good. I really need to finish the 4*. I also have a 60 size Ultra Sport kit half finished too.

Pete, I thought that the long distances to remote areas would mean lots of bush flying like in Alaska and S America, or routes for small puddle jumpers. Kinda funny what the market dictates for aviation.

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Originally Posted by Rudolph Hart View Post
ps jim,have you ever seen some of the old charlie chaplin black and white movies? there's one where he's walking down this old cobblestone street and there's an open manhole cover everyone knows he's about to step in to,but instead he steps over it,slips on a banana peel and falls backwards down the hole.Does that sum up your wing retracts saga ?
I think if there was a open manhole in front of my house I would threw the thing in, then take a photo of it and send it to AB Models and World Models,, I did send an Email to AB Models, the Email was really not so bad, I just told them the problem and to "congratulate World Models for me", I have not yet got a reply

it's just crazy, what's the odds of it happening, a guy buying a kit, then a replacement wing, 8 screw hole in 2 "right hand" wings for mounting the same retract and only 4 holes are usable

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325 ml is about 11.5 ozs and 440 ml is about 15.5 ozs rounding to the closest ten of an ounce.
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I think if there was a open manhole in front of my house I would threw the thing in, then take a photo of it and send it to AB Models and World Models,, I did send an Email to AB Models, the Email was really not so bad, I just told them the problem and to "congratulate World Models for me", I have not yet got a reply

it's just crazy, what's the odds of it happening, a guy buying a kit, then a replacement wing, 8 screw hole in 2 "right hand" wings for mounting the same retract and only 4 holes are usable

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A great argument for staying with kits and short kits or scratch build!
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
VP of the not so scale, almost ready to fly, soon to be scrap,
what if you can't even get the plane off the ground LOL LOL

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they say if it ant broke don't fix it, my question is "what if it's just screwed up"
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Originally Posted by acdii View Post
When I had the FG-11 in my T-clips, I would fly until I was bored and still have half a tank of fuel. Could fly an hour on 12 ounces.
I would put a larger tank in and stick with methanol fuel to extend the flight time.

Of course landing and re-fueling is another option and not really a bother.

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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
A great argument for staying with kits and short kits or scratch build!
yes it would be good, wouldn't it,
my friend built a 60cc size Weeks Special from scratch, it flew some 12, 14 years, now he has built another one "this one is 40%", all from scratch, it has about 13 flights on it and he says it flies fantastic, it has a 170cc in it and it weighs 55 pounds LOL,, me, I don't have the ambition to build even a.60 size kit, I would need more tools and room anyways

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Scratch built Smith Miniplane powered by Saito FA-300T.

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Scratch built Smith Miniplane powered by Saito FA-300T.
how does it fly with no pilot LOL heehe hee

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as for my wing,,,

1) the blank-a-dee-blank hole has been drilled,

2) the blank-a-dee-blank dowel has been made,

3) the blank-a-dee-blank E-pox has been mixed

4) and the blank-a-dee-blank dowel has been installed,

5) tomorrow I will install the retract,,, hopefully LOL

6) but,, and know that there is always a "but",, I have to make a blank-a-dee-blank replacement "short" linkage LOL for the retract, the blank-a-dee-blank linkage goes between the retract and bellcrank, why you ask,, BEcause LOL I lost the original linkage yesterday LOL and I cant find it, LOL, it fell out of the wing as I moved it last night from the bench to where I keep it,

it's funny today, but it wasn't funny yesterday

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boy, that 5/16ths was something else alright

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Jim,

Ask the blankety blank PILOT what happened to the linkage!
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LOL the linkage it fell off as the plane was going into the blank-a-dee hanger LOL
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As for kits, I'm behind on 2 planes and have 1 remaining CA Models pattern plane, 40 sized. I can probably "kit" a crashed model of the same kit. Everything behind the canopy is okay, so it may fly again. I also have a Sig Kavalier, I retired my first one that had a FA-56, and the Kav can be bashed a bit I think.

I'm also buying some kits completely different than what we talk about here. I've been slowly starting to buy Comet kits from Ebay. They can still be found NIB for $20, some less and some a bit more. I have a few now and some Guillow kits.
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the problem with this hobby is, no mater ARF or Kit, you get it half built and then you see another plane that you like, later on you set there watching TV and you find yourself thinking how cool that plane would look zipping over head threw the sky, so you order it and start building it all the while you have put the other planes aside,

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yee-up, I fly RC, I got 33 planes, 2 fly, 1 I just crashed last week, 9 half built, 6 built but need flight electronics, the rest in boxes,,, oh yeeaa, I got to buy more engines
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As the Wing Turns (Oh the Pain the Pain)

so yesterday the dowel was installed, and it was a good job done,

today,

the new short linkage for the retract was made, and it too came out very well,

so now I needed to drill A hole, for a mounting screw for mounting the retract,

so the retract was placed on it's mount and the center of the hole was found,

to mark the drilling spot a tiny divot was formed in the wood with a pin,

next,, a drill bit was used to increase the size of the divot,

Statement 1) it was slick !!,, yes slick,, the divot in the wood was very well centered to the retract's mounting hole !!

Statement 2) it was so slick>>>> I was feeling good, yes Sr I was feeling good,

note) clue ^^^

the retract was removed for the drilling, and it was set aside,

the wing was leveled this way and that way for the drilling !!

Statement 3) oh yeeaa, it's all cool and good to go,

the hole for the screw was drilled,

the end of the world came, the **** **** **** **** drill bit wandered and the hole was drilled off center,

**** **** to much off center to used,

**** **** **** **** **** ******** *****

Statement 4) think think think think what to do,

the hole was drilled larger,

a new 2nd dowel was installed,,,,,, yes>>>>>>>>>>> again,

Statement 5) tomorrow is another day,

side note 1) I could not believe how the drill bit wandered as it did, I have seen drill bits wander before but that was years and years ago, the hole was off just too much to use, so my only real choice was to re drill again and install another dowel, besides it only took about a 1/2 hour to do so,

side note 2) why me ???

A Sarcasm Statement) I hope this **** ****** plane crashes..

Jim
I think this plane is jinx

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Way too much drama at this point.
What yoo seem to need here is a drlling jig, a steel plate with properly located holes. Secure the jig in place and drill the remaining hole with the drill guded and restrained by the jig. No way for a mere mortal to mess that up! But YOU might.

If you feel too jinxed to make a blankety blank jig, send the gear to me. I will have my wife make one for you and return the whole thing in the mail. Yep, not only does she cut firewood, she is aheck of a machinist as well.

With no luck at all you should still be able to have it done before Hobbsy splits that little load of firewood .

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Use one of these instead to drill the pilot hole. Have never had a wander using it, https://www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...waAkJ9EALw_wcB
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Yep a transfer punch usually works well.

Seems that is close to what he already did. Still, a center punched hole is a center punched hole. The drill knows no difference.

Hand held in end grain wood with a twist drill is inviting the drill to wander.

Jim needs a little help here

Please don't force me to say "idiot proof"

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