Rudolph Hart

Hi dave and can inderstand why you treasure that engine so much.Looking forward to inverting this one as unlike the decathlon with my 82 in it this one has room to play with fuel tank heights.

Patxipt

Guys, some months ago I asked for the instructions for two old FA-45, and Hobbsy promptly reached out for me - once again, thanks buddy

After a short and embaressed time on my Avistar, one of them - and probably the other one, though both have good compression when cold - will certainly need a new piston ring, as when hot it turned by hand very easily, needing a good shot of fuel down the exhaust pipe - so I'm certain it would turn just by staring at it for some time.

My doubt is: can I just quote the engines as being FA-45 MKII or, for instance, does the ring from the FA-45S fit?

Thanks guys! [8D]

w8ye

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All the 45's are the same MK I, MK II, & 45S

Frank Bowman

1211 N Allen Ave. Farmington, N.M. 87401-3568

505-327-0696 Email: [email protected]

Reproduction Model Engine Rings

Quality at a fair honest price. Making a good ring is a Skill. Making a fine ring is an Art!

Last Revised 1-6-09

I will reproduce nearly any model engine ring. If not available, I’ll need a good piston and cylinder to measure, or send motor. Send return postage, insurance is extra. For orders outside of USA, ask for shipping costs? Priority postage is extra. An order of 10 rings or more, discount of $1.00 off per ring, mixed orders are fine! Ring cost & shipping charges for USA listed below.

Standard ring up to .65 engines: $9.00 ea.(1) shipped $13.00, (2) shipped $22.00

Standard ring from .66 & up: $10.00 ea.(1) shipped $14.00,(2) shipped $24.00

Dykes ring up to .65 engine: $10.00 ea.(1) shipped $14.00,(2) shipped $24.00

Dykes ring from .66 & up: $11.00 ea.(1) shipped $15.00,(2) shipped $26.00

** I also make special rings to order, ask for prices.**

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davidgeorge212

quick question. I am just about to order a saito 60 twin and I was wondering if this engine comes with the two flex pipe mufflers or do I need to order them separatly.

David

mike109

G'day I have just bought a Saito 90TS twin and it came with two flex pipes so I suspect that the 60T does too. I did find the supplied pipes on the stiff side and suspect they will not be very robust in use. I think I will use Turbo headers or a Keleo system eventually when the engine goes into its Goldberg Cub which is currently under production.

w8ye

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I don't know what your question is but all your descriptions and opinions are very correct

There is a Saito exhaust you can use also

w8ye

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these Saito exhausts will fit your 60T or 90TS or 90T and 100T as far as that goes

On the 60T & 90TS you need to use a right angle adapter

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=SAI100TI73
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAI90T73
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=SAI100TI74
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ID=SAI100TI140
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAI5074B
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAI5074D

w8ye

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You can also use this system

http://www.macspro.com/four_parts.asp

The threads are 10 X 1 mm and with the 60T & 90TS typically need a right angle adapter

You can get a right angle adapter and Turbo muffler together that will work great also

The threads are the same as the Saito 56

Hobbsy

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Jim, here is an under view of the .90TS with TurboHeaders

jdkxtreme

What size if any is a good size saito twin for an 80" goldberg cub? I have an 82 mounted on it but I like the looks of a twin

w8ye

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The Saito 60T was designed with the 1/5 scale Cubs in mind.
Then people wanted a twin strong enough for a 1/5 Cub on floats and Saito made the 90TS

The power of the 90TS would be a lot like your 82

w8ye

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Saito 60T with Saito 100Ti rear exhaust pipes and right angle adapters

jdkxtreme

Ok so now who wants to trade me a 90 twin for my 82 single?lol....

mike109

G'day W8YE I was replying to David George when he asked whether he would have to order an exhaust for a 60T he is going to buy. My 90TS came with an exhaust but I suspect it is not really up to much. I like the look of Hobbsy's set up with the two Turbo headers and the right angle adaptors. I think there will be some Turboheaders in my future plans (and planes). I have a flexible system on my 120S but it looks clunky and is not exactly quiet so I think I will investigate the Turbo header for it. It is in a H9 1/4 scale Cub which it hauls round really well.

Someone mentioned putting a Saito 82 in a Goldberg Cub. I had an OS 70 Surpass in one and that was total overkill so the 82 would be even more extreme (but possibly quite fun though as it is not as heavy as the 70 I suspect). The Goldberg cub was happy with an Enya 46 4c, very happy with an OS 52, very very happy with an ASP 61 and totally over the top with the Surpass 70. Scale speed was about 1/3 throttle. "Spitfire" speed was full throttle.

w8ye

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I had a old style H9 80" Cub for several years with a Saito 50 and it had plenty of power.

jdkxtreme

Thats all i have right now..Well 4stroke anyway. I have a saito 82 and an fa80....I have a few 2 strokes but that just don't seem right on a cub..

w8ye

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The only two strokes that work well in a 1/5 Cub is the cheap bushing type 40's. Anything else like a OS 46FX just doesn't work. You cannot run the larger two strokes that slow for that long without them loading up. A four stroke can run slow all day.

jdkxtreme

So the twin would be a waste of a good motor on the cub? I guess I should pick up a 56 or something this weekend at the lebanon pa swap meet

w8ye

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The 56 would be great in a 1/5 scale 80" Cub

But there's nothing like using a 60T twin or a 90TS in a Cub. There was a guy on here the other day with a 100T odd firing twin in his Cub.

But the 60T is good enough.

The picture is of a cut away 90TS

jdkxtreme

650.00 for a 200 cub is a bit high..lol

w8ye

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Keep your eyes open with $400 in your pocket and be patient

davidgeorge212

I have seen those ads for $400 dollar saito 60 but I couldnt wait any longer. The saito 60t will be my first twin I just ordered tonight. But I bought mine from Espirt Model for $617 shipped. A little bit cheaper than horizon but not much.

david

w8ye

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Congratulations on your purchase. I'm sure you will enjoy

mike109

G'day

A friend has this on his flight box.

"He who dies with the most toys wins." He has lots of toys.

So long as you subscribe to this, the cost of engines is simply an inconvenience and not something to be worried about. I am retired and not rich but I have enough to be able to buy a few engines and models each year. Lately I have been funding the larger purchases by selling old computer stuff I have been hoarding for 20 years on a certain auction site. It is amazing how much people will pay for certain types of old computer gear. I recently sold some S100 computer cards and a very tired keyboard for over AU$400. This is payback for being a long term hoarder.

I buy planes so that I can get my engines into the air. Now I know most people buy engines to power their planes but for me it has always been the other way round. So I happily paid nearly AU$900 for my 90T and only AU$150 for the kit of the Goldberg Anniversary Cub. I am building it as a WWI "grasshopper" but what I am looking forward to most is the sound of it as it putters past low and slow and not how it looks.

w8ye

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That 90TS will have a definite twin sound. I'm sure you will enjoy.