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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I still have that 56 and a couple others too. I was looking and feeling of the compression on that 56 today and thinking about putting it on a Telemaster 40.

    I always thought that 56 was the greatest engine ever made but I have a lot of other Saito engines and that 62 runs just as good. It must have around 14 gallons through it since I've had it and I bought it used? I also have another 62 and a 56 that are NIB.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Can anyone advise on the power difference between an old Saito 45 and the later (but early model) 45S? I have an Eindecker that flies fine with the 45 but has nothing left in reserve, I also have a 45S which would bolt straight in.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hi Everyone,
    I was wondering if anybody can help with fuel line setup issue.

    Just bought a Satio four stroke .65 (golden Knight). Iwas wondering if anybody has a diagram of the fuel line setup. The Satio seems to be a different setup from the .70 FL OS Max four stroke Ihave. Ihave one port on the exhaust , on the Satio, and also a port on the back of the engine.

    Usually there are two ports on the exhaust, one to vent in the tank and the other to the back of the engine. I don't the fuel line configuration and no manual.

    thanks for any help


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    The fitting on the back of the engine is for crankcase venting.
    Attach a short peice of fuel line to it (approx 4 inch) and leave it open.
    Excess oil burps out that line. It doesnt connect to anything. Just make sure it goes somewhere
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Thanks for the info. That makes sense Iwill give it a try.

    thanks!
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hello All

    This is my first post to this forum. I am wondering if anybody can direct me to a location where I might find an owners manual for a Saito FA-65. Ijust bought it used at an auction and it is barely broken in. But, I am really excited about mounting it to a GP Sporster that I have and want to dial it in. Thanks for your help.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Here's an online copy of the manual that you want. I hope that this helps,

    Bob

    http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo..._manual-lo.pdf

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I bought my .65 almost 20 years ago. WOW what a sweet engine. It now needs a rebuild. I think just the two main bearings and a new ring should do it. I have never had it apart. I now wish I had bought at least 3 of them. Would be fantastic in a twin. Super reliable.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    going to break in my new saito .91 for my midwest super stearman and have a question
    I have a jam nut and an adaptor as seen in both pics of this link that fits my saito.
    how/which do i use and and in what order. no instructions were included.
    thanks
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Jafo150, that's the prop nut and second locking nut. You will see where the locking nut fits. Since 4 strokes can backfire and throw props, the locking nut is often used.
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    Thanks but, without a better description I cant really tell. I might guess but i might guess wrong as all my exp is with 2 strokes. What about the little coned shaped nut with threads. what about the big washer,? does that take the place of the thrust washer? you can see my confusion i hope.
    thanks again


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I had an interesting problem with my Saito-180. The engine was purchased on E bay about two years ago with a bent crank shaft which was replaced along with a carburetor upgrade kit. Since then she ran beautifully would start with no problem, my best behaved engine. Last week she just would not start. Changed the plug, checked the push rods, checked the fuel and nothing would get it to start. I decided to take apart the carburetor and clean it in case there was some dirt clogging up something. And to my surprise as I took it apart i found the ventury on the high speed jet had a crack in it. I also noticed that the jet it self had becomes pitted. I have ordered replacement parts but wonder if anyone knows how this could happen.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Are referring to the 'split' on the brass section, that is the spray bar. It is meant to be there.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    That slot is where the fuel enters the airstream. Here is a shot of the one in a 2.20, a sleeve slides in and out over the slot metering the fuel from idle to about 85% throttle. A flat ended rod inside the spraybar serves the same purpose in a SuperTigre carb. The slot is generally referred to as a "cats eye"
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    You learn somethjing new every day. Is the split meant to face looking out or looking in towards the cylinder? Or does it matter?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Yes it is common for the spray bar to have a slot cut in it like that. Most of the time it looks like a elongated diamond shape and not rounded like that one on yours. The pit on the end of the needle was there since day one. But the sensitive part is more towards the shoulder so it probably worked fine for you. Normally the split faces straight down from the top, so it points down. But with the Saito engines, the bottom of the carb is up, so you want to facing straight down towards the bottom of the carb, which would have it point straight into the intake manifold tube.

    I would check the O-ring seals on the intake manifold and make sure the valve gaps are set OK. If the compression feels Ok, it may simply be a bad glow plug. I had a glow plug fail on my Saito 80 once. It would light up and glow nicely but the engine would not fire at all. i put in a new glow plug and it fired right up and ran fine. Sometimes the glow plug element gets too contaminated and it doesn't initiate the catalyst reaction that lets the engine run.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Jafo150

    Here is a diagram from the manual. This is how it fits on the crankshaft. One side of the nut labeled #28 has a machined groove for the 'cone' section of #110. This is easy to reverse if you aren't paying attention.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    i just found a new Sig Rascal with a new Saito 82 on it. it has never been flown or even started for 300 bucks ! i see horizon has discontinued this engine. anyone know why ? i hear the 82 has a bad crank case. is this true ?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Looking at HH web site, I still see the Saito .82 in stock.
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    I have been flying a Saito .82 on my Sig Somthin Extra for about 3 years now with great success. Love this little engine.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    that link is for the 82 with the new case .i think it was the 82e they discontinued.. i was just curious. thanks guys.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: SigMan

    i just found a new Sig Rascal with a new Saito 82 on it. it has never been flown or even started for 300 bucks ! i see horizon has discontinued this engine. anyone know why ? i hear the 82 has a bad crank case. is this true ?
    Had me worried that I just had my Dad buy a bad motor. I found 2 82s on horizons site, one discontinued and the other not.

    http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAIE082A

    http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAIE082B

    I have no idea about the crankcase, but you can tell the difference by the pictures.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    There's nothing wrong with either crankcase.

    It is just the old "A" version and the new "B" version

    They redesigned the engine for the FG-14 and then they went back and changed the Saito 72 and 82 to be like the gas engine.

    The cylinder and all the moving parts are the same in both versions

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    thanks guys!


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