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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I have two of these engines, one GK and the other the regular color, both are great. The GK more than 3 years, and the other almost two, they run flawless.

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    ORIGINAL: SigMan

    i just found a new Sig Rascal with a new Saito 82 on it. it has never been flown or even started for 300 bucks ! i see horizon has discontinued this engine. anyone know why ? i hear the 82 has a bad crank case. is this true ?

    I am not a Saito expert, but I never heard of the Saito .82 having a crankcase problem in its original form. I suspect that the introduction of the B model has more to do with the introduction of the 14 cc gas/spark version. Why make two different crankcases when one will work for both versions? Just my $.02 worth.


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Oops, another misfire!


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Mine is the a version.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I imagine the Saito 82 in a Sig Rascal will give some serious performance. I have a Rascal and I had an old 40 and then a weak 52 4-stroke in it for general sports flying. I think a Saito 56 would be enough, an 82 will be crazy.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    my new Rascal and Saito are in my home. paid 300 but SigMan has a Saito powered Rascal now ....WooHoo ! :0
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    ORIGINAL: SigMan

    my new Rascal and Saito are in my home. paid 300 but SigMan has a Saito powered Rascal now ....WooHoo ! :0
    Enjoy!![8D]

    Did the $300 also include servos? That is an awesome deal when you consider that the Rascal airframe alone cost $220. I bought mine 4 years ago before the price increase. Along with the Tower discount at the time, I got it for $185. They were a pricey ARF, but worth it.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    i was looking at the Saito FG-14 Gasoline Engine (82G). the Walbro/Saito Carburetor stick's out more than the nitro Carburetor . im thinking maby it will hit the motor mount. were the mount bolts to the fire wall . or dose it clear ? not the motor mount that come's with it.
    the motor mount that is in place from the nitro motor. i was looking at the one that comes with it . its is nice but it is heaver than the hanger9
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    If you use the included motor mount you will be ok with the clearance between the carb and motor mount/firewall.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hello

    I have a 72 thats about 3 years old and always worked fined but for some reason I could not get it to run under 5k rpms. The only way to do it was to keep the ignitor on but as soon as I removed it died. I tried new glow plug with no success. I haven't flown this plane for a little over a month now and I don't know if that can affect the engine. I tried to adjust the LS without success but I think that by know if too out of place, could anyone tell me what is the factory setting for the low speed needle so I can reset it.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    If its a plastic throttle arm set it about 1/16th inch inside the flat surface of the throttle, if it is a metal arm set it even with the end of the throttle barrel. Its easiest to set the LS with the HS needle at absolute peak. If you attempt to set the LS needle with the HS rich you end up chasing the needles all over the place. It will end up about where this one is.
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    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !



    thanks, I'll try that next time I'm at the field

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    The Saito 200R3 is a very sweet motor and very forgiving. I set the initial high end at 4 turns out so the first 5 minutes would be very heavily lubricated. The motor started right up after using the built-in primer spout at the carburetor’s opening.

    I am using the McDaniel ignition system so did not notice the #3 cylinder going cold at low RPMs. I did however test it after I ran the 4th 10 minute break-in run because of what I had read here. I removed the ignition system and started the engine with a glow starter; one cylinder at a time. The motor started at ~2500 RPM setting just as easy as if it were on all three. Then you just walk the igniter to the other cylinders (very carefully) and start the other two. I used an IR temperature gauge to judge who was running and how well. #1 and #2 ran between 150-170 degrees Fahrenheit depending on RPM. #3 would shut down and go to 90-110 after an idle below 2100 RPM. I could be running a little rich which could have caused this. I am running now at ~2-1/4 turns on the High Speed needle. All I know for sure is that problems with #3 never occurred with the ignition system. I now have the ignition set to come on at 1/3rd throttle and less and I’ve flown 6 flights (10-12 minutes each) without an issue.

    I have several Saito radials and use an ignition on all of them. I never worry about an ignition on the singles even the 46 seems to work fine after started.

    Hope this helps answer any questions posted or not.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hi jim your comments are interesting.Looking at the front of the engine and lets say that the lower right cylinder is number one,the top cylinder number two and so on..they run lean to rich in that order going by feel on the rocker covers re heat.I'm running the hsn at 1.75 turns out for a max of 8300 peaked at 8600.Will look forward to see how the engine settles down with some more fuel thru it,cheers
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    ORIGINAL: Daniel-EL

    The 0.015 decompression shims for the Saito 150 were once offered by C&H Electronics, but they are no longer in business. Anybody have a suggestion where they might now be found now and purchased?[]
    You can contact Horizon Hobby Service department about these. We still have them available.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Anyone know what the diameter of the satio .90 3 cylinder radial is? Can't find those particular specs. on it.

    Thanks in advance
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Warbird Man

    Anyone know what the diameter of the satio .90 3 cylinder radial is? Can't find those particular specs. on it.

    Thanks in advance
    It is 168mm (6.61"). The information can be found in the manual http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...ine-Manual.pdf

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    yep, all new complete with JR tx/rx and servos...
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I'm having some difficulties getting my older model Fa80 tuned. Using this method, with a metal arm...
    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy
    ... if it is a metal arm, set it even with the end of the throttle barrel. Its easiest to set the LS with the HS needle at absolute peak. If you attempt to set the LS needle with the HS rich you end up chasing the needles all over the place. It will end up about where this one is.
    ... there appears to be a rather large gap, between the end of the LS needle, and the open end of the spraybar. It looks to be about a sixteenth to three-thirty-seconds of an inch (see diagram). In order to get anywhere close to a lean-ish low-end, I have to turn the LS needle in a long way. Do I have an equipment problem? Approximately how much of a gap does yours have, when tuned properly?

    Thanks,
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Double posted, sorry.

    How come the "Report" option doesn't appear, for me, for my own posts?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: SigMan

    yep, all new complete with JR tx/rx and servos...
    Excellent!!

    One thing I learned is that the Sig covering does mess up after a while due to exposure to nitro exhaust (I used to have a 2-stroke engine in it). It is not one-layer like Monokote or Ultracote. I am having to re-cover the whole nose area. The tail covering also faded, but it's not peeling off.

    I guess a good thing about having a Saito in it, being a 4-stroke, the exhaust won't be blasting directly on the covering and ruining it so bad.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I'll check it out. And, here you go.
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    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Guys i want to ask if the Saito Intake Velocity Stack, really helps to improve the intake charge and so helps for a more efficient burn;

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    All the intake stack does is contain most of the reversion plum. Therefore you get better fuel economy.
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    And it stays clean inside the cowl, or at least much cleaner.

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