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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Check here, there is a .5" drill bit with a .25" pilot. Dick Bennett passed away last September but It looks like someone is still trying to carry on.

    http://bennettbuilt.com/catalog_pages/page9.htm

    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Thanks for the info. on B & B I have tried to contact them on several occasions. No one answers and the fax is not hook up. the .25 pilot and .50 bit is exactly what I need. Any thoughts on where else I might find one of these?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Anyone have any info on the new Saito 1.80B? Horizon says it has a new case. Seems to be the outside dimensions of a 1.25.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    That case is the new style case like the 2.20. 115, .82 b .40a and 1.00 have. It appears that only the .62 and 150 are left in the old case.
    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy

    That case is the new style case like the 2.20. 115, .82 b .40a and 1.00 have. It appears that only the .62 and 150 are left in the old case.
    What!?? So my 1.8 is now obsolete? Doggone!!
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: mjraines1

    I have the 91 Satio with the short adapter from Tru Turn, The inset into the prop is 1/2 ' and 3/8' deep. This is on a prop 3/4' thick. (50%).
    If you use a drill bit the shaffer beyond the bore is a little more than 3/8? It is difficult to get a true 1/2 in hole with a drill bit? I use a high speed counter sink? This works well but you still go beyond the 3/8 with the bottom depth. You need somethng like a Fostner bit that will take you the 3/8 and be flat on the bottom?
    I have made numerous request to tru-turn with no reply? They once said to use a pilot drill with a 7mm shaft and 1/2 inch Dia. at the bore. You can get one of these custom made for $123.00? I don't think this is for me? Not for just a few props? You don't have to do all this with Dave Brown?
    Any ideas ?

    The prop adapter ridge inserts into the tru-turn washer, not the prop. The washer hole is larger than the prop shaft. The ridge keeps it centered.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Thanks, I'll try again tomorrow. I called several times today. He has what I need in the cat. I'll see if I can fax him a order tomorrow. So far I have been unsuccessful in getting intouch with anyone there.
    Thanks again.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    MJ. I think you have the one on the right.
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    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I think you will find that on the short shaft adapter for the 1' shaft the adapter goes through the washer and then sets 3/8 of an inch into the prop hub. This has to be drilled to 1/2 inch dia. 3/8 inch deep and should use the 0.25 hole in the prop. to index to get a true 1/2 inch hole in the prop to align properly. This should be drilled so the prop nut seats flush aganist the prop at a depth of 3/8 in. A regular drill bit or countershink will usually have about a 92 degree angle on the bit so by the time you get 3/8 of an inch into a 3/4 in thick prop plus the amount used for the angle, you don't have much let for the prop?

    Your suggestions are appreciated? Do you know of anyone using a Tru Turn Spinner and short adapter on the Satio that has encountered a similar problem?


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Oof, throw that away and buy the one on the left. Works on all props and is cheaper than specialized tools.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    You are correct, you can see where the adapter comes thru the washer and leaves about 3/8 of an inch that must inset into the prop hub.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    If the one on the left will work on the short shat and still leave room for the lock nut, I think that may be the way to go?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hobbsy,
    Will the adapter on the left work on the short shaft using the lock nut adapter?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    The inside wood doesn't matter the washer creates the holding pressure.
    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Here's your guy if you have 7mm shaft. Part #TT-0717-A

    Woops, I left out the link, http://www.truturn.com/cgi-bin/store...dapt0717a0716a
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    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Yes this is what I have? How about the one you pic on the left. Will it fit and does it have the lock nut? What's the part No. on it?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    What is the part No. on the one you are using?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    No lock nut and only gains you the thickness of the washer. The one on the right gains quite a bit more but again, no lock nut.
    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Old fart, I usually play with various different props and fuel mix combos to determine what the max rpm that any particular engine will give. My best example is my pair of YS 63's (one of each series) on Bolly 13.5 x 6 and 6.5's I can get up to 500rpm difference in performance depending on the oil mix for the engine.
    For out right power extraction I use Bolly props for Texaco type economy I use Master airscrew and for anything else I use APC keeping an eye out for stretch marks at the blade root to hub area
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Yes agree with your comments and thanks for that.Specifically i was looking at the prop figures the author was quoting for the saito 100 petrol engine claiming 8715 on an apc15x8.I can get that on my 115 running 10% nitro but it's on the lean side,hence my question
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy

    Check here, there is a .5'' drill bit with a .25'' pilot. Dick Bennett passed away last September but It looks like someone is still trying to carry on.

    http://bennettbuilt.com/catalog_pages/page9.htm


    ORIGINAL: mjraines1

    Thanks for the info. on B & B I have tried to contact them on several occasions. No one answers and the fax is not hook up. the .25 pilot and .50 bit is exactly what I need. Any thoughts on where else I might find one of these?

    A piloted drill bit IS NOT a counterbore!

    Be carefull here.

    You can achieve the same thing as a piloted drill bit W/a 1/2" standard bit if you have a drill press. (which you should have in any case for this operation)

    Besides, the hole in the priop needs to 7mm doesn't it? A 1/4" pilot will be useless unless you are just using a blank prop #W/a 1/4" pilot hole.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hi SrTelemaster150

    Had some earlier postings concerning converted saito's using E85 fuel, and have some questions concerning oil mixes.

    Been using Stihl Ultra HP @32:1 for gassers, & planned to go to 20:1 for converted 270T using gas (also FG20 & FG36).

    For E85 usage, should the oil mix be increased to 15:1 or more?

    I've read that gasoline has some inherent lubricity & E85 apparently doesn't have much gas in it.


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I have some Saito FA - 325R5 parts I want to sell and I would like to know what a fair asking price would be.
    I have a gasket set part # 325-32 for the FA-325R5 that's new in the Saito package and 2 sets of part #325- 72/73 Exhaust pipe/Gasket Set, also new in the Saito packages which I don't think are available anymore.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I have some Saito FA - 325R5 parts I want to sell and I would like to know what a fair asking price would be.
    I have a gasket set part # 325-32 for the FA-325R5 that's new in the Saito package and 2 set of part #325- 72/73 Exhaust pipe/Gasket Set, also new in the Saito packages which I don't think are available anymore.

    Thanks,
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    The hole in the prop matters not, the .5" shoulder on the adapter locates the prop. Most props have a .25 in hole and is the reason for the .25" pilot on the drill.
    John Deere 820, 72.82 HP @ 1,125 rpm, 470.7 cu. in., bore=6.125", stroke=8.00", two cylinder. CR=16 to 1.
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