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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


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    Ken, does it have a letter designator on the right lug, that will come closer to telling you when it was made. My very first gen 1.50 has no letter on the right lug nor does my first gen .80.

    It has a letter ''F'' on the lug.

    My search has turned up nothing. So where do i go to find out the age of my 120.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Do you know what color of box it came in, this .65 is an 80s engine, the .65 is later, maybe late 90s.
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    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy

    Do you know what color of box it came in, this .65 is an 80s engine, the .65 is later, maybe late 90s.

    have you ever run that .65? that looks NIB
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Yes, it is just broken in and now resides on an Alpha 60 that used to wear a Saito 1.00.
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    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    just wanted to offer the following ..

    Goldberg Tiger 2 ARF with Saito125 Weighs 7.09 LBS (fully loaded ready to fly no fuel)

    Goldberg Tiger 60 Kit with Saito 150S Weighs 8.81 LBS (fully loaded ready to fly no fuel)

    Goldberg Eaglet with Saito 50 Weighs 4.36 pounds (fully loaded ready to fly no fuel) about 15 minutes on 6 oz tank with a little to spare (1/8 tank)
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Great selection, my Tiger 60 is the red ARF with an early high compression Saito .80, my Tiger 120 is going to wear a SuperTigre .90 Diesel conversion which turns a 15x8 APC at 9,400 rpm.
    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Very interesting! I have a DD head for my ST 90 and was curious how to prop it and what to expect. You saved me asking.

    On another note - I was installing new bearings in a friend's Saito 180 and I lost one of the top rubber bushings for the pushrod tubes. I stole one from one of my 150s so he could get in the air. Does anyone have one (used is OK) laying around extra? The 120/150/180 are all the same part. I'll gladly cover the cost and postage, but ordering from Horizon when I don't need anything else is silly.
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    ORIGINAL: SRQFlyer

    Very interesting! I have a DD head for my ST 90 and was curious how to prop it and what to expect. You saved me asking.

    On another note - I was installing new bearings in a friend's Saito 180 and I lost one of the top rubber bushings for the pushrod tubes. I stole one from one of my 150s so he could get in the air. Does anyone have one (used is OK) laying around extra? The 120/150/180 are all the same part. I'll gladly cover the cost and postage, but ordering from Horizon when I don't need anything else is silly.
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    Even the small LHSs up here in the boonies make an order to Horrizon @ least once a week.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: SRQFlyer

    Very interesting! I have a DD head for my ST 90 and was curious how to prop it and what to expect. You saved me asking.

    On another note - I was installing new bearings in a friend's Saito 180 and I lost one of the top rubber bushings for the pushrod tubes. I stole one from one of my 150s so he could get in the air. Does anyone have one (used is OK) laying around extra? The 120/150/180 are all the same part. I'll gladly cover the cost and postage, but ordering from Horizon when I don't need anything else is silly.
    Thanks,
    Jim

    Maybe Ebay would have this part? get the Saito part number and search ebay for it. may be just a few bucks


    http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bk-SAIE180B#t4

    Looks like $10.40 and comes with 4 seals and new tubes too.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Senior is right. My small lhs does that and I never see postage costs.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: DougB1

    This afternoon I flew the Satio 180 on 5% fuel ( it's all I had, ran out of 15% ) that is in mt 150 size Hanger 9 P-51 It has an 18x6 Vess prop on it and turned 8045 rpm's ( the sweet spot ) not to rich and not to lean. Does this sound like a good rpm for this motor with the 18x6 prop on it ?
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    Could anyone give me some input if this is good or bad.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Thanks guys,

    I'll give the LHS a try - have to go there for fuel and other "standard" stuff anyway. Sometimes I just need another brain to help me see all the options!
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Doug, having never owned a 1.80 I can't say, I'll do some diggin.
    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10948606


    According to thyis you're right in the ball park.
    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Ok, Saito gurus, I need help.
    My 100 is being flying great, today it just didn't want to iddle. When iddling makes a weird noise and dies.
    I have not changed anything since the last time it flew. Also now it will not start by hand, whereas before it was only one flip.
    Too rich in the LSN?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    My guess would be LS needle too lean, Saitos idle pretty well when too rich, too lean they don't idle at all. If you watch closely while it quits it will quit slowly when too rich and quit instantly when too lean.
    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: lopflyers

    Ok, Saito gurus, I need help.
    My 100 is being flying great, today it just didn't want to iddle. When iddling makes a weird noise and dies.
    I have not changed anything since the last time it flew. Also now it will not start by hand, whereas before it was only one flip.
    Too rich in the LSN?

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    Can you "borrow" a tank of fuel from a buddy and see if that helps?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    A similar incident happened to me last year with my Saito 1.80. There is a little screw that goes through the carb body and into a slot in the carb barrel. This screw keeps the carb barrel lined up when rotating and without it, the barrel will eventually slide off. In my case, the throttle pushrod held the barrel partially in place, but not enough to cause it from sliding out a bit, causing air leaks. It's a long shot, but won't hurt to check.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    DougB1,
    I was getting around that speed with my Saito 1.80 with an MAS 18x6. I can't remember taching with 15%, but it didn't feel much more powerful, if any.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: hsukaria

    DougB1,
    I was getting around that speed with my Saito 1.80 with an MAS 18x6. I can't remember taching with 15%, but it didn't feel much more powerful, if any.
    Thanks just wanted to know if this was good and it sounds like it is.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: DougB1


    ORIGINAL: DougB1

    This afternoon I flew the Satio 180 on 5% fuel ( it's all I had, ran out of 15% ) that is in mt 150 size Hanger 9 P-51 It has an 18x6 Vess prop on it and turned 8045 rpm's ( the sweet spot ) not to rich and not to lean. Does this sound like a good rpm for this motor with the 18x6 prop on it ?
    DougB1
    Could anyone give me some input if this is good or bad.
    Thanks
    DougB1
    Mine turns an 18x8 @ 8000 W/15% nitro on glow ignition. (under ideal conditions)

    Given the probable slight drop in power for 5% I would say that you are about right.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: hsukaria

    A similar incident happened to me last year with my Saito 1.80. There is a little screw that goes through the carb body and into a slot in the carb barrel. This screw keeps the carb barrel lined up when rotating and without it, the barrel will eventually slide off. In my case, the throttle pushrod held the barrel partially in place, but not enough to cause it from sliding out a bit, causing air leaks. It's a long shot, but won't hurt to check.

    Hey, I've never seen that lil screw. I'll be looking for it. Thx for the suggestion

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Here is that screw, woops wrong picture, even though this is a .40 there is the screw
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    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    ORIGINAL: SRQFlyer

    Thanks guys,

    I'll give the LHS a try - have to go there for fuel and other ''standard'' stuff anyway. Sometimes I just need another brain to help me see all the options!
    Jim
    I call mine in ahead of time so they have it when I come in.

    Part # SAI120S40 is the pushrod tubes & rubbers. $10.40 list price.

    If you ever need a quantity of parts, ADVANTAGE HOBBY has a $50 free shipping minimum. (Horizon's is $100)

    Their prices are about 5% less than Horizon's & they pull from Horizon's stock. AM orders are shipped same day Monday-Thursday.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    On your Saito 100, if the LS tuning was right on the edge of being too lean you might not have noticed it until a change of season and barimetric pressure rolled in. You didn't change the nitro percentage in the fuel did you?


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