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    RE: [Deleted]

    Here is the typical setting with the steel throttle arm, (picture #1) and with the plastic arm, (picture #2)
    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Ern, here are an example each of a Saito .80 carb LS setting and a much newer .56 with the plastic arm. They are set for 2,000 rpm but of course are flown at 2,200 by moving the trim tab a notch or two.
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    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Thanks Dave. Looks like on the older one you can clearly see that the needle is far from being flush with the throttle arm.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    You can clearly see that dave has placed a very dirty carb on his nice new clean workbench silly bugger,great mechanic and poor photographer.We can't all be that talented he seems to manage both well that ain't *****in brothers
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    question for the gurus? i have a fa125 and i finally got engine tuned.  i'd  be flying in 85 to 100 degree weather,  yesterday, took her out to fly, and temp was 55 degrees.  once i got on run way and punched it, the motor revved down, but i saved it from turning off.  what would you expect needed to be done with HSN or LSN in this situation?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I would say both need richened a little but not very much, maybe 1/8th turn on the LS and 1/4 on the HS. Do the HS one first and then check the transition, if it hesitates, the LS is at fault.
    Farmall 240 the final issue of the Farmall C, Super C, 200, 230 series.
    122 Cu. In. 22 hp. A small tractor that would do big work due to its 10x36 inch rear tires.

    As competition improves products, the differences between them get smaller and smaller

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: orthobird

    question for the gurus? i have a fa125 and i finally got engine tuned. *i'd *be flying in 85 to 100 degree weather, *yesterday, took her out to fly, and temp was 55 degrees. *once i got on run way and punched it, the motor revved down, but i saved it from turning off. *what would you expect needed to be done with HSN or LSN in this situation?

    my 125 did the same thing to me. the weather changed and i had to retune. I thought I had a bad glow plug. repeaked the high needle and tuned the low and she was back in the air in no time. until i broke my firewall. .40 size planes dont handle the power of the 125 well. it was the quietest thing i have ever seen for those verticle lines it produced. it was barely working to move that model around like a rocket.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    That's actually good news if your tuning is so close (to being lean on the bottom end) that you can tell by a change in barometric pressure. You're getting the smoothest possible idle and saving fuel! Mine are usually living on the edge like that. Also I can tell when I go to a different field that is higher or lower in altitude.

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    Hey jkr-

    I bet that was fun and that you would do it again. I would
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    ORIGINAL: blw

    Hey jkr-

    I bet that was fun and that you would do it again. I would

    you can bet on that!!!!

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Although kind of blasphemous here on the Saito forum, I bet that OS FR5 will sound the bear when fired up!
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Cougar429

    Although kind of blasphemous here on the Saito forum, I bet that OS FR5 will sound the bear when fired up!

    when you get into works of art like this i bet we get a pass.

    If I was to mention a LA 40 with blue coating I might get laughed out.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I posted this in a thread of it's own so it might come out better in a search.- but thought it also needed to be posted in here.


    I needed to change out the bearings in my Saito .91 and wanted to find some guidance on the web. There are always people asking about vids that show a rebuild. What I found was a Power Point Presentation on rebuilding the Saito .91

    Here is a link to that Presentation www.authorstream.com/Presentation/KevinKenny-259310-repairing-saito-91s-radio-control-engines-reseating-valve-91-sports-ppt-powerpoint/

    I used it, along with a little bit of extra web instructions and rebuilt my .91. What I thought would be the only hard part was getting the Cam gear timming in the correct position. So following the presentation I coaxed the intake cam follower out and then made a timming tool.

    Imade a timming tool using 12 gauge solid copper wire. I stripped a little insulation off the end and then filed the copper end down to a rounded point. Iadded a little heat shrink which made it just the right diamitier to fit into the cam follower guide. Pics of the timming tool and then the tool as it holds the cam (throughthe intake follower guide) in the correct position. I wanted to show how to make a simple timming tool so anyone following the Presentation can easily get the timming correct.

    Igot the Saito .91 back together with new bearings, piston ring, and gaskets and got her fired up for 2 tank fulls of fuel. (About 20 mins run time). She runs like new and can't wait to take her up for a flight (Reactor 2s .60 sized Biplane).
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Looks pretty good. That was a OK instructional guide.

    There are some of those on the internet that have bad instructions.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Jk the two new saitos sound good but the rest of the post read like xyz.What's an "OS",is it some sort of acronym?? and if so what does OS stand for?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    OS, stands for Osaka, Japan.
    It is a very good brand of engines.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Jk the two new saitos sound good but the rest of the post read like xyz.What's an ''OS'',is it some sort of acronym?? and if so what does OS stand for?

    OF OS is the "other" 4 stroke company. have you honestly never heard of this? These are the ones that Thunder tiger and ASP copy.

    Edited to say, don't worry, if you only ever own Saitos, your life will still be complete, and you can die happy.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    OS stands for the founder of the company, Mr. Shigeo Ogawa
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: jkr_1100
    If I was to mention a LA 40 with blue coating I might get laughed out.
    No you wouldn't, I have one of those. My first glow engine and, it's running better than ever...

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Sorry mate i was pulling your leg and hoping someone would come up with a good nickname for os engines in general.Not that i dislike them,it's just that i get teased sometimes for only running saitos
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Sorry mate i was pulling your leg and hoping someone would come up with a good nickname for os engines in general.Not that i dislike them,it's just that i get teased sometimes for only running saitos
    Nothing new? I still run Saito's, O.S.'s and Syssa 30 cc gas. All run great for the applications that they are currently on.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Raven, how long have you been in if the LA 40 is your first engine. Mine was the venerable FP 40.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Cougar429

    Raven, how long have you been in if the LA 40 is your first engine. Mine was the venerable FP 40.
    I've only been flying for just over a decade. I had a second hand FP25 but never got to use it beyond a bench run.

    Lately I've been flying a Minimag with a Cox .049. They're a little easier on fuel than Saito's

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Cox .049's on a saito thread what the hell is the world coming too? they did scream at you as a kid finger flicking that small and fast prop,jeez how you could afford just the fuel to run it for ten minutes,parents and pocket money if you did all your jobs.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Cox .049's on a saito thread what the hell is the world coming too? they did scream at you as a kid finger flicking that small and fast prop,jeez how you could afford just the fuel to run it for ten minutes,parents and pocket money if you did all your jobs.

    Talk about a night and day comparison. I could never get those little B@st@rds to run right. conversely I can't hardly make a Saito run wrong.

    I will pay for that comment I think. What do you say OF? will any of my Saitos run again after that comment.
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