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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: mike early

    I have a Saito 56 in the Sundowner 36, Flies lovely.
    Excellent!!! How fast dees it fly? Did you mount the engine using the diagonal template instead of inverted? What size prop are you using? Your picture got me all fired up.
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    ORIGINAL: mike early

    I have a Saito 56 in the Sundowner 36, Flies lovely.

    This sounds like the way to go. tell me how are the vertical lines with this engine?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I'm bettin no where near as good as if he'd stuck an 82 in it,more horsepower is good
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I have it propped for speed with the MA 11x10 prop (i think).
    The vertical is close to unlimited, if not quite. Of course it would be with a 12x6 prop, or thereabouts.

    The engine is straight down, I think. I will have to check it later. I am using a pipe exhaust from the radial engine. I will check later and take another photo...

    I need an aluminum spinner for it.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    My first Saito was a .56 and I think it said "high cam" on the box. It ran perfect and was good on fuel. It was one of my favorite engines...don,t know why I sold it.................. Capt,n
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    ORIGINAL: captinjohn

    My first Saito was a .56 and I think it said ''high cam'' on the box. It ran perfect and was good on fuel. It was one of my favorite engines...don,t know why I sold it..................***** Capt,n
    Those cold Michigan winters do some crazy things to us[&o]. Last winter I sold my perfectly good FA-180, I think it got really cold in the basement and it "affected" me. Like the paint fumes from my wife the other day were making me consider electric[]. But seriously, the FA-180 was a bit too big for me, I was intimidated. That is why I am entertaining a FA-40a or a FA-62a.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Saito 180 sucks too much fuel for my tastes. My favorite engine is the Saito 40a. Bullet-Proof.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    You think a 180 sucks a lot... you should see my 220... I only get about 6 flights per gallon !!!!...luckily I only fly maybe twice a month... 3 -4 flights each time.

    Tried getting the low idle as lean as possible...but don't see much difference... but this thing is a beast for torque.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Before, the 150, 180 and 220 filled a need. Now we have a better choice with the new line of Saito Gassers. I've never seen one in person yet. Might have the get one soon.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: mike early

    Saito 180 sucks too much fuel for my tastes. My favorite engine is the Saito 40a. Bullet-Proof.

    I am thinking the 40a on the eaglet would be the coolest thing ever, Hobbsy and W8YE does the 50 have the same case as the "original" 40
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Could'nt agree more mein duff even tho we pay an average ten bucks a litre for 10% glo fuel here.All that goes away the minute this engine fires and you give the throttle a good rip or two.Makes everyones body hair stand on end..you can stand closer to increase the effect
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    Could'nt agree more mein duff even tho we pay an average ten bucks a litre for 10% glo fuel here.All that goes away the minute this engine fires and you give the throttle a good rip or two.Makes everyones body hair stand on end..you can stand closer to increase the effect

    Price of fuel. what would you give for the sweet sound of saito, a klondike bar, yes I think so.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


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    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Could'nt agree more mein duff even tho we pay an average ten bucks a litre for 10% glo fuel here.All that goes away the minute this engine fires and you give the throttle a good rip or two.Makes everyones body hair stand on end..you can stand closer to increase the effect

    Price of fuel. what would you give for the sweet sound of saito, a klondike bar, yes I think so.
    +1
    I never met a engine I did not like !

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    >>> you should see my 220... I only get about 6 flights per gallon !!!!... >>>

    Maybe put the 40a carb on it.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hearing that makes me glad that I bought the gas/ignition version of the 2.20 Saito.


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: NM2K

    Hearing that makes me glad that I bought the gas/ignition version of the 2.20 Saito.


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


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    Price of fuel. what would you give for the sweet sound of saito, a klondike bar, yes I think so.

    I have an example. the Saito 125 broke my firewall in the Tiger 2. no surprise. Gorilla glue in the joints as shown.

    this setup brings me such joy. Tiger 2, Saito 125, APC 16X6, MAGIC.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    The Saito 56 on the Sundowner 36 is 180 degree inverted. 11x10 prop. Vertical is as unlimited as I want with Wildcat 15%.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: mike early

    The Saito 56 on the Sundowner 36 is 180 degree inverted. 11x10 prop. Vertical is as unlimited as I want with Wildcat 15%.
    thanks for the help, Mike.

    By the way, Horizon Hobby answered my question about the fa-40a. They said the 40a may not be enough power for the Sundowner 36.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Be glad you have a four stroke.... my super tiger 3000 uses 3 ounces a minute, i use a 24 ounce tank in my ace big bingo for 8 minutes of flight time and have to buy special (Byron 5% nitro/10% oil) fuel for it . i'd be happy to run a 2.20 4-stroke in it's place. the only reason i keep the combo together is the ST was the only quarter scale engine available when the kit was produced in the early 80's, i'm a sucker for nostalgia.

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    Be glad you have a four stroke.... my super tiger 3000 uses 3 ounces a minute, i use a 24 ounce tank in my ace big bingo for 8 minutes of flight time and have to buy special (Byron 5% nitro/10% oil) fuel for it . i'd be happy to run a 2.20 4-stroke in it's place. the only reason i keep the combo together is the ST was the only quarter scale engine available when the kit was produced in the early 80's, i'm a sucker for nostalgia.
    Yeah, but I'm nostalgic about my money.

    Would a tank that big have to be on the CG?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Huk you could increase your nostalgic feeling about your money by adding an on board fuel gauge with a downlink to the tx
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    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Huk you could increase your nostalgic feeling about your money by adding an on board fuel gauge with a downlink to the tx
    That way I would enjoy it as my money transitions from my pocket to become nostalgia.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    The fuel tank is right up in the front, 1/4 scale plane with a long fuselage, i think it weighs in at 18 lbs , with a 84" wing. It was designed with a hatch held down with a single 1/4x20 nylon bolt, to access the fuel tank. I've had the plane 5 yrs without ever once adjusting the carb , just have to by fuel by the case. The ST 3000 is the equivalent to a 1.80 2-stroke, but is very high compression. To start it you spin the prop ( 20 x 8 MasterAirscrew) backwards, then it backfires and spins forward. I've kept it the way it was first built , most of the fuselage is 2-1/4" sheets of balsa glued together to make it !/2" thick, she's a flyin' tank. I've seen a few of the older ST3000 converted to gas, must not have been able to afford the fuel or the short flight time. I had a guy once tell me to be careful and wait 5 minutes after flight for the motor to cool down, said with the high compression it didn't take much heat to start the engine spinnin' again.

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    I have a picture of it in My Models-Hanger- plane #14


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