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    I upgraded my 65 with the new spraybar but haven't noticed a lower idle. It only has about 1 gallon through it however.
    No matter how many times I cut it, it's still too short!

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    My 62 is going on the front of my Epade, Ihave a pair of skis ordered . Itook off the Magnum 52 RFS which pulled it along pretty well. So far Ihave a 45, 50 and 62 to play with. Too bad my 45 broke one of the valve adjusters yesterday and cant get the parts.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I have read through a few 100T threads on RCU posted over several years.
    Am trying to reach a consensus on the Air Pump Assembly and its value.

    Seems some people have had a lot of problems with the 100T and lubrication...

    I have the Air Pump Assembly on this 100T. I am getting ready to order bearings was wondering if I should order a new cam cover to remove the Air Pump altogether.

    W8ye, I read where you stated that the Saito Twin manual is incorrect on the cam timing of the 100T. Have they fixed it over the years?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Has any one tried a 11x8 MA or Graupner on a 72? Trying to keep the prop size down for clearance .

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    You could run a 3 blade
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    BLW........................Forgot what my member's number is.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I know you can run one but wondering if any one has any results. I like Graupner props better then MA but they do come at a price. Even the MA three blade is a couple bucks mor then a two blade.

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    Now you've got me stumpeda three blader is more expensive?
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Now you've got me stumpeda three blader is more expensive?

    OF Graupner props are so expensive here that a two blade is more than a master airscrew 3 blade.
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    ORIGINAL: AJsToyz

    I know you can run one but wondering if any one has any results. I like Graupner props better then MA but they do come at a price. Even the MA three blade is a couple bucks mor then a two blade.

    Andy
    A year ago i purchased a 14X7 - 3-blade Graupner prop for $19.99 + taxes (Cdn.) for comparison with an MA. In my opinion the Graupner is heavier, but i love them. My 14X7 is in combination of a Saito 100 on the H9 Corsair 60.
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    ORIGINAL: jkr_1100


    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    Now you've got me stumpeda three blader is more expensive?

    OF Graupner props are so expensive here that a two blade is more than a master airscrew 3 blade.

    Graupners are not cheap and sometimes they're hard to find. For 2-blade props i use APC. I don't use MA so i cannot make any comparisons in regard to pricing 3/2 blade props. APC and Graupner works for me.
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    Yeh 3 blade MA are more then double there 2 blade counter part. I don't mind buying props I will use but, hate to have tons of extra's that won't be used.
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    I've run most makes of props and even with MA I find a wide range of flexibility. IMO, that is what makes a poor prop and the reason wood, APC and Graupner are so much better.

    Even though wood can be problematic if there are wide temp and humidity variations, for many of my first flights they are almost mandatory to save the engine and even airframe if something goes wrong. I just have to account for their lighter weight.
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    Hi
    I need a spray bar to saito 100TI.
    there is no information which the spray bar you should have
    It says buy a new carburetor?
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    @BLW.......................Would anyone care to share the late Mr. William Robison's notes ? Thank you.

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    What happened is that my name is on the posts for Bill's work. I only uploaded the file. I wish we had the tools to edit that. W8YE did most of the work to correct my formatting mistakes to where it reads as well as it does now.
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    @W8YE....................Thank you for Bill's notes.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Would have been interesting to see figures for bigger props or more pitch. Got time and props?

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    OK, I should have predicted these results, that way folks would think I am a deviner of sorts.

    Fuel for both engines===WildCat 15% Premium Extra
    Prop for both============= APC 13x6


    Saito .65/stock muffler, rpm====9,800, rpm/TurboHeader==10,000
    Saito .62/stock muffler, rpm====9,780, rpm/TurboHeader===9,990

    My assumption is that Horizon got their 9,900 rpm for the .62 using 30% fuel, that seems to be their standard.

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    The .62 wore a Fox Miracle
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    My assumption is that Horizon gets their rpm figures for Saito engines in general using 30% fuel...
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    Hey Charley, I'll do'er, its about 40 degrees and pouring rain here today. Here is something that surprised me the other day, although it shouldn't have. I ran a Bolly 13.5x6 and a Bolly 12.5x8 and got exactly the same rpm for each. About 9,450 on the .65, didn't try the Bolly's on the .62. I chose to not mention them because not many have Bollys. Its sad that Bolly went under. I have about 10 Bollys that I got from Fiery and Dar Zeelon and have not had to balance any of them. That's a rare thing.
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    ORIGINAL: mike early

    My assumption is that Horizon gets their rpm figures for Saito engines in general using 30% fuel...
    Correct

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    ORIGINAL: Garthwood

    BLW........................Forgot what my member's number is.

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    Charles- I went back thru my handwritten list and can't find you. I started at #488 after Bill passed away. This may have been around 2006.
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    ORIGINAL: blw


    ORIGINAL: Garthwood

    BLW........................Forgot what my member's number is.

    Charles.
    Charles- I went back thru my handwritten list and can't find you. I started at #488 after Bill passed away. This may have been around 2006.

    @BLW...............i read through a few pages but i can't see any proof that i was given a member's number. How about getting a new number ?

    Thanks
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    Charles,

    That wild goose chase I just went on was a little funny after a few minutes. I went back to an old post of yours in Oct 2007, and you signed the post as #406. Guess that's your number. Seriously, I need to go back and copy the membership lists that Bill Robison would post every few months for questions like yours.
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