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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: FNQFLYER

    On props.* Have any of you seen the wrinkles that develop at the blade root on APC props when you push ''real power'' through them.* They look a bit like ladies ''stretch marks'', apologies for that where required, old fart knows what I mean there.
    Any way if you do see them (the marks, retire the prop or use at your peril.* It means one blade has now grown longer than the other, doubt me measure the 2 blades for yourself.* If the blade lets go in flight at any sort of good RPM the worst that happens is a ''lunched engine'' followed by a re kitted model, on the ground is another matter and look out any one in the way of the loose blade.
    In case you were wondering I use APC and Bolley's (sparingly) and yes MA's can't get a reliable source of the right sized Graupner or Superior where I am so I collect them in my travels.
    FNQFLYER......................I am 100 percent with you and i take your warnings seriously. How about a close-up picture of these marks at the blade root on APC props if it's possible ? A picture is worth a thousand words. Personally i do believe your observations, but at times we do ignore these signs.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: w8ye

    It was Horizon that discontinued the 40 and 30 because they thought electrics had taken over the world. Saitro never quit making them.
    I still see the FA40a on the Horizon site..

    http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...m-rtf-SAIE040A

    No idea why /super-cub-dsm is in the address...
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    just thought I would post a pic of the Saito 180 on the 1/4 scale cub. this is a balsa USA 1/4 scale cub.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Love it.

    Can anyone confirm that the 10x1mm exhaust thread size is used in the old Saito 90T, the 100T, and the Saito 100Ti?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Can't help mike tho i can say i just bought a 15x1.25mm die nut for my fg57 with the idea of cutting a thread on some stainless pipe i have to make up two short shotgun pipes.The die nut wants to cut to deep a thread like over a mil deep and the saito thread tho fine pitch looks to be about .5mill deep,not so good so far
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    where can i send a saito 80 engine repair?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Horizon, they are good too, and not too expensive
    Keep your wings level
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I haven't had a blade stretch for a while now, when I am "racing" I usually use carbon fibre props, though those are getting problematical now as some of the cheaper ones are exhibiting voids in the carbon tow lay ups.
    Fortunately I have access to the equipment to manufacture my own when I run out of these props.  (When I heard Bolly was out of business I visited every hobby shop I could and bought their entire stock of props and have been swapping and selling ever since)
    For the average person blade stretch and tip seperation etc should never a problem because most of the average props are pretty tolerant and lets face it they aren't as stressed as some of he stuff I operate with.
    As for the photo request I am going to Brisbane to do the grand father thing this Xmas and I'll try to get some photos of props and Satos at the fields I compete at.
    With regards to Old Farts comment, if you see the stretch marks, measure both blades, if one isn't longer than the other I will bet it has a void (hollow inside) and if to were to try to balance it you would see what I mean.  Ive seen this situation destroy a YS 63 and a very hot worked Rossi 40 to name but 2, gave up on counting the pylon engines. (I didn't own them)  
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Does this tiny rubber O-Ring come in the Carburetor Gasket Set?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Old Fart, best to use  a lathe to cut those threads.  I bought a small chinese lathe from Minetech in Brisbane for doing bits on model engines some 2 years ago, still has cosmoline (or similar) on it and my mate at the local MRO is still cutting my threads etc on the big Colson he has at work.  I use thread dies etc for "quickie" jobs but prefer a lathe for the finer work I use a lathe and my current arrangement leaves me free to do projects thought up by "she who must be obeyed".  I usually fix his model a/c problems (read engines) for him in return.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Get the "Upgraded carburetor rebuild kit, it has everything you need.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Does the "Upgraded carburetor rebuild kit" fit every Saito??
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Don't know for sure Mike. Mine is for an older 72 with a SAI72144 part number. You might search Horizon for your engine. (Good Luck, not the best search engine I have ever used).

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Thanks man.

    In particular, I am looking for that tiny o-ring for a older Saito 90T and an older Saito 100T.

    Very likely, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...-50-5-SAI50144 will fit, but I'd have to buy 4, since they have 2 each... And they are out of stock to boot.


    I just wonder if that tiny O-ring is in the carb set...and how many different sizes there actually are....
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hi fnq you are right about the lathe they do make things easier re thread cutting,looks like i'll have to make the trip and see a gunsmith mate who may be able to help.Is it possible to buy a 15x1.25 pitch die nut that will cut a shallow thread like these engines have on the exhaust side??
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    hi dear friends 
    im purchase SAITO 325 ... but one of  silendr dosent work ... it  shutdown ... and  motor was steped ... any one can help me ?


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: mike early

    Does this tiny rubber O-Ring come in the Carburetor Gasket Set?

    Surely someone knows..

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Mike, call Horizon Hobby tomorrow. They should be able to help you.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Yes it does mike,or at least it did with the half dozen re-build kits i bought for the 82's i have.
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Yes you can usually from specialist tool sales people. I use Blackmores or a guy I found that sells gunsmith supplies. I would check out somewhere like A Man's Toy Store in either Rocky or Brownsville (TSV) I have had a great deal of success with Minetech in Brisbane as well. The later if they haven't got the device can generally point you in the right direction.
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    Old Fart what I usually do in these cases is cut the thread on solid rod cut the thread down to just above the desired depth of thread and then run the whole deal trough the lathe again with the tool pulled back o just touching to sharpen up the thread.  Then I progressively bore out the guts until the desired hole size is reached.  That is of course assuming I don't have the desired die.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hi there!

    On the Saito MFG Japan page, they don't show the 60 Twin anymore, only the 90 twin.
    Is it being discontinued???


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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Hi bruce thanks for the advice it confirms what i was thinking.For now i'm going to cut short the supplied flexi pipes as they obviously have the right attachment elbows and threads as is,will still cut them much shorter and drop them straight out the bottom of the cowl.Hope it sounds heaps louder and am still planning on the custom stainless shotgun pipes in the future.I'm amazed nobody here talks about exhaust systems much,they make a big difference to your audio experience,specially when your aeroplane blats past
    Watch out for the ground eh?


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