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Old 03-22-2018, 08:10 AM
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If the burr is at the bottom of the bore, you could take a drill that is large enough to fit inside the housing and use it to chamfor the lip, by hand, then use some toothpaste on the lifter to polish it.
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thanks for the idea, I thought of that, but I am worried the drill will leave an edge,,

the Burr is not really that big, it's just an edge left by the cutter, well I have an idea, I think Pete will like this, I will take a lollipop, taper the end of the stick, see> the stick is hard, but not hard enough to scratch the Boar, then I will add toothpaste, and twist the stick to remove the Burr,,

I have some Fine Lapping Past, I would like to use it, but they say once you use it on an engine part you can not get it all off

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Old 03-22-2018, 10:49 PM
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You won't beat these props on small block saito's


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Here's an apc 14x6 attached to a saito fa82 fitted to a 46 size decathlon
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The top speed for the 750 is listed in several mags as 110 the 500 at 80. There are/were two brothers who did the pin striping free hand, one on the day shift the other the night shift. I understand the 500 being, (on the LAM list) with it's light weight and precise handling. At 64 mpg it would make a great commute vehicle for an apartment dweller on a budget.

I'll search diligently for an APC 14x6 and see if I can get it within a half ounce of balanced and has a straight hole in it. I have about three APC's out with crooked holes in the, one I managed to save using a .25" piloted 5/16" B&B drill.
Dave you must have awfully awful bad luck buying apc props where you are.The one's i buy over here are bored true and track well at the tips.I put them on a large prop balancer and rarely have to touch them.Here's a pic of a new apc 14x6 pattern prop and also part of my prop collection.
Old 03-22-2018, 10:57 PM
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Jim bruce has a good idea to solve your problem but it makes it easier if you post a couple of pics,otherwise it's like trying to suck a golf ball through 30 feet of garden hose,and that's a womens job.
Old 03-23-2018, 02:00 AM
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Pete, that is true of the latest ones I've bought, a 13x6 and 12x6, that 14x6 is several years old. When viewed as yours is above the hole is not centered in the relieved circle on the front. I have lots of bushings. I will try to enlarge it on center. Nice pictures by the way.

Jim, a gentle touch with a jewelers file will fix the lifter bore very easily.
Old 03-23-2018, 02:27 AM
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Thanks i like the pictures too the reason one side of the prop shaft hole looks sharper than the other is because the photo was taken at an angle and the light came in to the shed sideways.I'd be up to my ears in saito's ripping themselves out of engine mounts if all was not good,sometimes while they are airborne.Did i ever tell you about the time i was bench running a new saito fa115 and it was on the first tank,vibrating with fuel richness.I'd used self tappers in to a soft pine mount and as the engine pulled away from the mount the throttle went to max,i was hiding behind the lawn mower.
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I know that feeling, I had a little .30 get loose, it hung in the air by the throttle rod and fuel line, it was swinging up and down like a side ways pendulum. When I pinched the fuel line it fell and busted the little 10x6 Zinger all to pieces.
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APC props have been very good here. They locate well from the rear hole and the rear face, which is proper. The front hole is typically a clearance hole and not used as a primary locator. By following the instructions they track and balance very nicely.
Also a good prop from an efficiency standpoint. Hard to judge a prop peering at an off-axis photo, shadows and all.
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To all yep.
now thinking of putting a 100 in something. So I'm open to suggestion. What you all think?

Also can't wait to see how the 82 does.
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I will be running it in about an hour, gotta do honey do errands first. I got the APC 14x6 balanced and a Zoar 14x6 ready too.
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To all yep.
now thinking of putting a 100 in something. So I'm open to suggestion. What you all think?
I have read on RCU where guys have put the Saito 120 & 125 on the 4-Star-60's (span is 71"),, so how about putting the 100 on the new "Clipped Wing" 4-Star-64 (Span is 64")

I have the 4-Star-60, I will be clipping the wings, but as for this month, I am going to put my K&B 100 on it, next month I may change my mine LOL
BTW, if you didn't see my photos of my 4-Star it it being bashed do to a crash into an open cockpit racer,, love the the open cockpit mid & low wing planes,

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ps, I dodn't know why the photos are so large !!
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
To all yep.
now thinking of putting a 100 in something. So I'm open to suggestion. What you all think?

Also can't wait to see how the 82 does.
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Saito .82
Fuel===Wildcat 10% with 18% full syn.
Plug===Fox Miracle
Exhaust===Stock Saito
Prop===Xoar 14x6
Prop===APC 14x6
Max rpm APC 14x6===9,330
Max rpm Xoar 14x6===8,890
Idle with both========2,190
Rear bearing noisy at all rpm. With new bearings it will be a great engine.
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I have to say the Zoar turned up closer to the APC than I thought it would

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Old 03-23-2018, 12:48 PM
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I'm not so picky about prop brands provided the prop is wood. I like my fingers too much to use composites.
Old 03-23-2018, 03:09 PM
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That 14x6 is my lone APC and it was buried behind about 6 others.
Old 03-23-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy




Saito .82
Fuel===Wildcat 10% with 18% full syn.
Plug===Fox Miracle
Exhaust===Stock Saito
Prop===Xoar 14x6
Prop===APC 14x6
Max rpm APC 14x6===9,330
Max rpm Xoar 14x6===8,890
Idle with both========2,190
Rear bearing noisy at all rpm. With new bearings it will be a great engine.

cool that really does turn up nice. As good as my 91.
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Thanks Jim, but I did manage to find an APC 14x6, the only one I have, It's badly out of balance, I'll try to balance it without making one blade translucent. The .82 needs a rear bearing, when I wiggle the blade tips the crank moves inside the engine, the front bearing is still precise.
Dave i don't understand why you would do a prop test and lean the engine out for top rpm on any saito with a buggered rear bearing,i hope you replace both front and rear soon instead of holing a case.Interesting reading thanks.

Cap as you know i fly a 46 size deccy with an fa82 and at one time seriously considered fitting a saito fa125 to a small deccy for a bit of totally unlimited everything.There were a few pluses and minuses.With the saito 82 fitted the performance is awesome,nearly unlimited and no lead tail weights are required.With the extra power of the saito 125 comes weight i could not move back and structural considerations.How much lighter is you fa100 than the 125?

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Well the friend that doesn’t like the 82 is going to be surprised at the performance of the 82 when i show him the engine in a asro hog. That reminds me i need to get started on the project, i need to build 4 astro hogs before sig. going to put four different engines in to compare. The 72,82,80 and the 91. Should be fun. Then when we’re done i will take out the 72 and put in the 100 for some real fun.
Old 03-24-2018, 07:04 AM
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No danger to,the engine Pete, the bearing is just a little loose but still smooth. The bearings are ordered from Boca Bearings, I ordered a spray bar too, the cats eye in the existing one is not shaped,right and the needle turns very hard on it.
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Left to right, 125, 100 and .65 mufflers.
Saito 1.00 w/o muffler=19.5 oz
Saito 1.25 w/o muffler=21.87 oz
Difference of 2.37

Saito 1.00 with muffler 20.9 oz
Saito 1.25 with muffler 24.69 oz
Difference of 3.79 due to the 1.25's huge muffler/
Old 03-24-2018, 09:31 AM
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Test post.
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didn't work.
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know that feeling
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Yeh it's like you get settled on the couch with the tv remote and someone knocks on the front door,could it be a 'knock knock who's there' joke?

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