1QwkSport2.5r

Greetings fellow Enyaphiles. I recently picked up a couple Enya .15 IV baffle piston engines. Neither have mufflers and one is missing the carburetor. Anyone have some spare parts they'd be willing to part with?

computermonkey

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If no one answers try Ken at http://www.enya-engine.com/.

1QwkSport2.5r

Yeah, I thought of that too but the cost of new parts and shipping will easily be 3x the cost of the engines themselves. I got them used. A new carb off the bay is $25+shipping. I'll see what happens. I'll test run the engines without a muffler, that is when I get some free time.

computermonkey

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just FYI shipped from Japan via air mail is no more than most shipping in the US. It doesn't cost anything to get a quote from Ken.

1QwkSport2.5r

I sent an email shortly after my last post.

earlwb

I usually order Enya parts and stuff from Shttrman on Ebay. He has a Ebay store presence and specializes in selling Enya stuff. If he doesn't have it, he can order it along with the order stuff he orders. He usually has orders going in weekly.

1QwkSport2.5r

And he wants $24.50 for a carburetor and $4 shipping. I think that's a bit steep for a .15 sized carburetor. But that's just me.

earlwb

I thought that was quite reasonable myself. You do need to pad the carb or ship in a small box padded so as to prevent it from being damaged, especially the needle valve.

1QwkSport2.5r

For whatever reason I'm on an engine buying binge and am eyeing one or two more .15 IV's that are NIB. I'll keep my eyes out for a parts engine for cheap and get a carb on this other used one I have coming and maybe sell the used ones together. I lost out on a Fox .40bb NIB by $1 today so I'm kinda salty this afternoon.

1QwkSport2.5r

No word back from Enya directly, but I got a message back from Shtterman on eBay. $17/ea for mufflers, $24.50/carb and $4/throttle arm that's gonna break on my first .15. There's a lesson learned here for me. Don't buy engines without mufflers, especially if they are strap-on type.

Not sure what I'll do yet.

BTW: there's a VT-240 in the classifieds for sale.

GallopingGhostler

This is true. Often when coupled with muffler already will be cheaper than buying one later has been my experience. Occasionally though a used Enya muffler shows up what is reasonably priced with reasonable shipping, but again it would have been cheaper to buy a complete engine. A new ASP/AP .15 from Hobby King USA or Hobby Partz is a touch over $30 and probably the best deal if one wants a complete new engine on the cheap. Other way you could look at it, is even though you buy the parts from Shtterman, if the engines are new enough for long service life, is still cheaper by a long shot than buying the engine with muffler new.

1QwkSport2.5r

Yeah, I'm of the belief to buy something that will last. I don't want any more "cheap" engines. Buying good engines cheaply is different IMO. Nonetheless, I will find something to work. Since I've no basis to judge how long these engines will last, I'm not sure what I will do. I will test run these two .15's on the test stand sans mufflers on 1 or 2 props and see how they rev. If they rev in the "okay" range, I'll obtain mufflers. If they're down on power then I'll skip it. The one I ready have, and it's in decent shape. Needs to be run on some thick castor fuel to build the varnish back up. It's got that old engine sitting in the closet for 20 years feel to it. The second engine looks to be in better shape/less runtime but I haven't gotten that one in my hands yet.

These are my first baffle piston engines. Looking forward to running them.

jeffie8696

I can get you a nice engine complete for $45 negotiable. brucercengines.com

1QwkSport2.5r

I will keep that in mind, Jeff. Thanks for the info.

I got got a reply back from Ken Enya; the mufflers are about $12/ea (1200JPY) and the carburetor is $24 (2400JPY) and shipping is less than $8 (740JPY). I'd save about $10 ordering from Enya directly than ordering from eBay. Not a huge savings but it's something to consider for the penny pincher like myself. LoL.

earlwb

You stated that you thought Shtterman was too expensive but direct from Enya cost more. So I do not see how you say you saved money ordering direct.

1QwkSport2.5r

The mufflers are 17-20$ each from Shtterman, plus the strap and screws are another $5 each muffler. The mufflers with screws/straps from Enya direct are 12$ each.

$17+5+$17+5+$25+shipping. That's $69 plus shipping which would be at least $5. From Enya; $12+$12+$24+$8 shipping = $56 shipped to my door.
The carburetor is the same price, true. But when I take into account I need 2 mufflers with straps and screws, it makes more sense to order it all at the same time. However, I've not committed to buying new parts yet. I've not a model to put the engines in yet so I'm not in a rush. I'd rather find used bits since the engines were used but if I cannot source used parts then I'll bite the bullet and order new.

GallopingGhostler

IIRC Shtterman has the more expensive take apart Enya muffler. One quoted by Mr. Ken Enya is the less expensive one. I guess Shtterman may be out of stock on the cheaper one. Also depends on the monetary exchange rate when ordering from Enya, which fluctuates. I find that Shtterman has often parts that are no longer in production or sold, especially CL items.

1QwkSport2.5r

Ken Enya said the M154 muffler is what I need but does not come with the strap or screws. The M153 muffler is the same as the M154 but has the strap and screws and is the same price as the M154. 1200JPY each muffler which is about $11.70USD currently. Shtterman did not give me a muffler model number not an exact price. Just $17-20 depending on which muffler.

buzzard bait

These engines come up on ebay all the time and usually go for way less than you're going to pay for new parts. Should be easy to get one for $30 or so and you don't care about the condition as long as the carb and muffler are OK, which they usually are. Pretty bullet proof.

Jim

1QwkSport2.5r

I got both engines for less than $35 but without mufflers and 1 carb. I assumed when I bid on the carb-less engine that I could find a used carb for a reasonable price. No such luck yet. I don't want to buy new parts if I don't have to. That's part of the reason for me posting here.

GallopingGhostler

M-154: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENYA-09IV-20...-/221483689111 $17.95 + $4.15 shipping.
M-153: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENYA-15-19-S...-/221485388929 $19.98 + $3.90 shipping.

M-153 has an additional exhaust section added for better silencing (but weighs more, see E-Bay listings above for photos).

1QwkSport2.5r

I wonder why Ken said they were the same... I was under the impression that the 154 was tapped for bolt-through screws and the 153 just came with the strap and screws.... Either way I'm gonna keep my eyes out for some used stuff. IIRC my buddy has a muffler that I had bought from my rc car shop that was a strap-on .15 sized muffler that I let him put on his .19IV. He doesn't fly the .19 anyway.

Thanks for the links.

GallopingGhostler

Probably something was lost in the translation, did you clarify which version of 15 you have? Ken's website has the prices and descriptions there too, and one can order directly from there.

Ken Enya's mufflers: https://cs206.xbit.jp/~w041133/store...dex&cPath=2_13

I relooked at shtterman's picture of the M154, I was wrong. the special muffler is SM153, which has the added exhaust section.

Ken's SM153: https://cs206.xbit.jp/~w041133/store...roducts_id=357 JPY1,836

Ken's exchange rate: http://www.enya-engine.com/store13/index.php 0.011905 x JPY1,836 = USD21.86

If you look at Ken's picture for the M154, it does not come with the metal strap. The screws don't look compatible for an Enya 15-III (which I have), but I don't know, may be it will work with the 15-IV. It doesn't mention the .15-IV, states fitment for the SS15 and 15-V. You are right, it uses a bolt through system. The M153 mentions it is for the 15-IV.

M153 cost: JPY1,296 x 0.011905 = USD15.43

1QwkSport2.5r

Yeah, for whatever reason the 15 IV is strap on only. Perhaps some of the newer IVs are bolt through. I did tell Ken exactly what I was looking for and what engines I have. He priced the mufflers at 1200JPY, the carburetor was 2400JPY. I need a throttle arm too but that's cheap. I might pull one from another engine; I'm not using the exhaust baffle & related linkage since it doesn't come with the engine anyway.

I'll hunt around. I think I can get used bits for cheap.

GallopingGhostler

My 15-III requires the strap on muffler, because the exhaust port flanges haven't been drilled through. I don't know if the 15-IV has them drilled through or not. Although it may seem a bother, the Enya strap on muffler works quite well. Regarding a throttle arm, you might be able to modify a spare servo arm to suite. One thing I did notice is that prices are up. Ken's engines don't come with mufflers, and after pricing them with they do cost. For me, E-Bay has been a cost effective choice, even considering a few bad purchases.