Konrad

YES!
Not that there is anything wrong with that, being a Sunday only flier.

Now I will have a problem defining "Sunday Flier"!

All the best,

Konrad

P.S.
My apologies to Seinfeld.
http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/shows/seinfeld/

blw

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You stated that the OS philosophy was that the 4 cycle engine was a 'Sunday' engine. I'm asking if you have advertisements, etc to back up this story.

Konrad

Adverts, no.

But then again I think you know the of value I put on marketing.


All the best,

Konrad

Konrad

I'd be more concerned that there wasn't a viable US manufactured pattern engine other than maybe the custom built Lee Custom K&B 61. The AMA kind of shot our home grown engine manufactures in the foot.

hsukaria

But isn't that the typical way we do things in the US? We regulate our industry to the advantage of foreign competitors?

Konrad

Maybe. But that wasn't my point. The moderators have edited my last responses to the point that all context was lost.
As this is their site I guess that is fine. But as my name is on the account they should have the courtesy to leave an editorial notice!

All the best,

Konrad

hsukaria

Ouch!!

I admit I was trying to stir up the pot with my last comment. If there is any forum where you can and should make a comment like that, it would be in this one. Fox has remained faithfully American through the years and if anybody deserves solid and dedicated support by the American hobbyists, it would be them.

Konrad

A lot of my good work about Fox has been lost.

All the best,

Konrad

Hobbsy

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I am one of those, I use their fuel, glow plugs and have about 20 of their engines. I much prefer a 10,000 to 12.000 rpm engine to a 100 gozillion rpm engine. Charles Thacker who seems to be the day in and day out boss at Fox also loves his Saito .80.

Konrad

One of what?
Fox has always had engines that made very good torque. In the case of the long stroke Eagle II, III and IV they could also breath at higher rpm. This is because as the stroke gets longer the port area in our sleeve timed engines gets larger for the same timing.

The Saito is a fine sport engine!

All the best,

Konrad

Konrad

It was odd that the Fox 1.20 ran best around12k to 13K rpm. My MVVS 1.20 runs best at about 8K rpm. These are both 20cc opposed flat twin two cycle engines. This is a rare example of a Fox engine not liking to run slow. The Fox 40Q is another that comes to mind.

All the best,

Konrad

hsukaria

I'm just now getting started with Fox engines, so I can't claim much. I don't have Saito's, Enya's, or YS engines. I know they are good, but I don't have that kind of $$ to spend. Most of my engines are the cheap stuff, and I always try to see how cheap I can go.

Konrad

Now I'm not cost driven, but rather value driven! That is why I loved the Fox when I flew glow (1969 to 1993).

hsukaria

Admittedly, cheaper doesn't mean better value. But as I get started in this hobby, I think that you can get value without spending a bunch of money. I see my fellow club members blindly buying a certain brand of engine (brand name omitted to avoid a conflagration) simply because everybody else is buying the same.

Konrad

GOOD BOY!
Marketing can be so dangerous!
So can the PC movement, to the point that nobody dares say anything for fear of offending some OEM! This tends to impede the free flow of knowledge!

All the best,

Konrad

Konrad

Only 20? I have twice that many carcasses in the bottom of my engine drawers. And I probably have twice again as many in my storage boxes. And this is after my sell off when I went electric!


All the best,

Konrad

93octane

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EARLWB...Thanks for the info on the 78...Looks like its going into a plane after many years of storage....[sm=devious.gif]

Konrad

What model of 0.78 do you have? The performance changed significantly though out the production life of the engine.

All the best,

Konrad

earlwb

Konrad,
   I don't think that, but a very few people, would know what variation .78 engine they had. You would need to identify the different variations for us so that others would know what to look for.
   heck i cannot tell you what my .78 variation is. My .78 started life with a dual plug head and later after I had to do a rather radical landing onto a paved runway, I had to replace the head and they only had the single plug heads at that time. Mine was a relatively early model as it used to have the exhaust throttle baffle on it. I had removed the baffle to use a muffler.

Konrad

Very true. That is why a well focused picture is often worth a thousand words.

All the best,

Konrad

93octane

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Well it appears to be the same one as pictured by earlwb, Does have the slant plug..just one..two needle carb...but does have a genuine FOX muffler...darn!!! wish my digital cam was working...also its in near NEW cond....very little run time

Konrad

Well, if it has muffler tabs it is a late 70's or later. If the carb look like Earls then she is from the late 70's or earlier. If the carb barrel moves back and forth (in and out) she has the Mk X carb and is from the early 80s or newer.

jafo150

Great thread. Question: I have 2 Fox 46's and an Eagle 60 and 74. can you use the Miracle plug in all of them or should i stick with the regular r/c long?
thanks

earlwb

Yes you can use the miracle plug if you want to. But the standard Fox long glow plug without the idle bar works fine on the Schnuerle engines. Schnuerle ported engines do not normally need a idle bar glow plug. But if you don't have a standard long glow plug, you can certainly use the idle bar plugs OK too.

If it is a older baffle plate piston design, the idle bar plugs are best. It was the nature of the baffled engines, in that there tended to be larger fuel droplets that could cause the glow plug to cool off at low speeds, so they put on a idle bar to help keep the fuel from cooling off the glow plug coil.
Now on the old dual plug engines, one glow plug is a short reach plug and one is a long reach plug. Generally the glow plug closest to the intake port is right over the top of the piston's baffle plate, so you can't use a idle bar plug in it, it has to be a short standard plug.

Konrad

Welcome, to the best thread in the joint!
What Earl said is good.

Now there is a bit more to glow plug selection. Do a search for glow plugs. Also let us know what type fuel you are using. The later Foxes for the most part like low or no nitro fuels. And all Foxes like fuels with 100% castor oil preferably more than 20% oil total oil content.

All the best,

Konrad