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    Saito FA-30

    Wouldn't ya know it, after designing a twin expressly for a pair of Saito's cute little FA-30s, Saito has gone and discontinued them. Drats! (Can I say 'drats' on this website without being thrown out???) Anyway, my Saito supplier said that the little 30 was discontinued due to slow sales in the US.

    I already have six Saitos of various sizes in my hangar and while I'm not against any of the other fine brands, I'm kinda loyal to Saito. So, should I search for a couple of Saito 30s (none are currently on eBay) or should I "stoop" to another brand?
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Don't compromise - get Saitos!

    They're still available in the UK - Distributor site. You could contact UK model shops to see if they'll send them to you. My LHS is Moor Models and I know they will ship to the US.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    If you watch ebay and RCU long enough I'm sure you will see them pop up, although it may take some time to find two of them in the same condition. I am kind of a engine junkie myself, I have way more than I need to get through my lifetime of R/C flying. They are kinda like potato chips, "can't have just one". I have some kind of mental disorder when it comes to collecting engines, my LHS does'nt have 1/2 as many engines as I.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    5487, I own both the Saito and O.S. 30's. I don't consider one superior to the other. The O.S. is hardly a "stoop to" engine or a compromise.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    And then there is the Magnum 30. I think good ole Hobby Lobby has them in stock.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    I think it is time that you gave yourself a treat and moved up to an OS FS-30. <G>


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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Once you've owned a Saito, you'll never go back Ask around, see if any LHS's still have one in stock. My LHS here in Hickory, NC has one; Eddie Kizer at "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles". Contact him at (828)328-3772, or eddieatpta.@earthlink.net His price is the same as Horizon's. It sure is a cute little engine, I thought about buying it, but have no purpose in mind for it. Maybe somebody else here on RCU has seen one at their local shop. What plane do you have in mind for them? Good luck.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    I'd like to make the point that "SAITO" did not discontinue the 30, 40, 50, or 80 but Horizon quit importing them.

    I have several Saito 30's and they are very nice four strokes. I also have a OS 26 and have had considerable experience with a Magnum 30. I think of the Saito as being superior to the others but they are all good engines.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    5, I found one at Apex Hobbies in Tazewell, Va., so if you can scrounge another you'll have two excellent engines. Their # is

    1-276-988-9005, Bobby Dove, a long time friend of mine, will answer the phone. I have a silver one with a bout 2 hours on it and a brand new GK.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Actually, w8ye, I think I knew that. I believe I was told that the 30 was no longer available "in the US" due to lackluster sales of that engine. And that's too bad because I think it has potential in the smaller scales (once it's discovered anyway.)

    No, folks, I'm not against OS or any of the other manufacturers and will readily admit that they also put out fine engines. But at this point, I have Saito experience, Saito manuals, Saito parts, Saito tools and a stock of Saito glow plugs so it doesn't make a lot of sense (to me anyway) to branch out to another manufacturer. Especially since I've been so happy with Saito over the years. However, I will admit a desire to see Horizon get some competition in the US Saito-distributing market. Horizon has had 100% control of the US Saito market for too long.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Darn, now I've got a dilemma on my hands so I'll just throw this out to the 6,764,563,589,641,239,765,894,236,975,169,760 experts (and the 1 or 2 resident know-it-alls) on this forum to help me decide...

    The "twin design" that I spoke of earlier is the MAN Twin Trainer (TT-1). It has a 72" WS and is designed for a pair of .25 2-strokes so, naturally, I figured that a pair of Saito's little 30s would be about right. And I'm indebted to those of you who have located the discontinued 30s for me. However, I have a new Saito FA-40a sitting on the shelf without a plane planned for it and it would be a lot cheaper to buy a second 40 than to buy TWO 30s. The problem is that I'm not a fan of overpowering planes (jeez, I'm gonna brace myself against the onslaught of replies for making THAT comment) plus I wonder if the 40s would look too big for the Twin Trainer's nacelles? I do not know what the Twin Trainer's eventual weight will be. There is also the possibility that it may end up on floats.

    w8ye, when you said that Horizon has discontinued importing the Saito 30 AND 40, did you mean their new 40a?

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Yes the 40a was discontinued a few months before the 30 but there are still some of them around also. A friend just bought one at Mac Hodges in Andersonville, Ga. http://www.hodgeshobbies.com/

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Hello; I have a Saito 30 on my Pixie bipe, lovely engine. A friend has a Saito 40 on his Freedom 20, The two engines look to be the same size when the two planes are sitting side by side. I know that they aren't the same size, but I bet they're close, so close that no one will be able to tell if it's a 30 or a40. So if you go with the 2 fourtys ( which is what I would do) you'll have lots of people ask you if they are 30's or 40's.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    The same place I mentioned above has a .40a, I don't know if it's a GK or silver. They keep 250+ engines in stock at all times.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    I spotted a few new saito 30's and .40a's and Greeefield news and hobby today. They are asking $175.00 for the .40a's.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Hey Dave, are you laffin about my weakness for engines? No, you wouldn't that.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Hobbsy,
    I am just letting people know that there are a few new ones out there yet.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Yes sir, I was just havin a little fun.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Hey Motorman37,

    Where is Greenfield News and Hobby?
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    W8ye,
    Thanks, I should have done that.

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    RE: Saito FA-30

    I had seen a couple of Saito .30s run and knew that I wanted one some day. Then, they were discontinued. Not long ago I was at a guys house and he was getting out of the r/c hobby due to his age. There sat a new .30 GK in the box. It had not even been taken out of the clear wrapper. It had the sticker on the box for $149.99 and that's what I paid him. I haven't run it yet, but it sure is nice looking and I'll build something for it.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    Barry, you're gonna love it, it will turn a Graupner 10x5 at 10,100 rpm on 10% nitro fuel. Mr. Robison had mine for a while to study up for his Saito tunning and maintenance docs. I had to send some big strong lads to his house to get it back.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    I need to find a good kit for it. Something that isn't cowled since it is a GK. Is that the engine that Bill painted black?

    Did I ask you where you get your Graupner props? If so, I forgot or misplaced the website info.
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    RE: Saito FA-30

    5 if you end up on floats you'll appreciate the 40's
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