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Ok I finally got a couple photo's of one of the ST6000's modified. This one has a solid backplate mounted over the original which has had a 3/8 hole drilled in the recess. This equalises the pulsing pressure/vacumn waves between the front and rear cylinders and prevents the rear cylinder leaning out. The ducting looks close, but actually worked well in the tight cowl of an early bipe, and after many hours themotor still has no issues and has very even compression, within 5psi. The exghaust is home made, and is surprisingly quiet.
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Hi Sodbuster. Appear that you have a ST 45 "S" (round head version) and the ST 45 "K". The K series is more modern then the "S". To my Knowledge, they are similar in performance. Both series were made in ringed and ABC versions. Do you have a pic from the second 45??
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The engine with the dished cylinder head is a "K" series. I had the .40 version. Mine was ringed. It was a great running engine, was very reliable and it idled and transitioned beautifully. Mine had excellent compression from day one.
Unfortunately, my K&B .40 and OS .40H & P engines were more powerful. I expected more from a Super Tigre. My buddies identical S40K was slightly more powerful than mine for no reason that I could detect.
The K series was introduced in the very early Eighties.
The square head version came along later on and was more powerful than the early K series. I've owned the G90, but that is the only size in that series, which is really based upon the .60 sized crankcase.
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Unfortunately, my K&B .40 and OS .40H & P engines were more powerful. I expected more from a Super Tigre. My buddies identical S40K was slightly more powerful than mine for no reason that I could detect.
The K series was introduced in the very early Eighties.
The square head version came along later on and was more powerful than the early K series. I've owned the G90, but that is the only size in that series, which is really based upon the .60 sized crankcase.
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Hi guys. I am thinking of purchasing a ST 3250 and getting the Red Jett carb for it. Was also going to get a Slimline side mounted Pitts muffler. Any suggestions for a successful endeavour? Do I really need to pinch one of the muffler stacks closed?
Also, was thinking I should break the engine in with this exact set-up too...
Thanks in advance.....it is for a Great Planes Pitts Special...
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Also, was thinking I should break the engine in with this exact set-up too...
Thanks in advance.....it is for a Great Planes Pitts Special...
Spencer
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I picked up another ST. The more of these things I get, the more I like them. This one is a slightly used S.75. It looks almost new inside, the bearings are even in good shape. It was missing its muffler, so I put a new silent muffler on it. I'll try to run it soon. I've got some Rev Up 12x 7 1/2's. Would this be a good prop? I'll also try an APC 12x7 and 12x8.
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I would like to install an O.S. carb on my ST .90. However, I don't know which one will fit. Could someone inform me as to the type to order and, if possible, the performance I can expect.
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I would use a Super Tiger carb if it were my engine
Your carb has a 14.9mm or .589" shank
Perry Replacement carb #4500 .340 /.590 $46.50 http://www.perrypumps.com/prod01.htm (This carb will work perfect on your engine with a minimum of fuss)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8254038/tm.htm (OS 7L replacement like was on OS 61SF?)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXFW10&P=ML (Super Tiger 90 carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXSCL0&P=7 (OS 75AX carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCA49&P=7 (No needle valve) (OS 91FX carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCA63&P=7 (No needle valve) (OS 61 FX carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMW56&P=ML (Needle valve)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGBG0&P=V (needle valve holder)
Your carb has a 14.9mm or .589" shank
Perry Replacement carb #4500 .340 /.590 $46.50 http://www.perrypumps.com/prod01.htm (This carb will work perfect on your engine with a minimum of fuss)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8254038/tm.htm (OS 7L replacement like was on OS 61SF?)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXFW10&P=ML (Super Tiger 90 carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXSCL0&P=7 (OS 75AX carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCA49&P=7 (No needle valve) (OS 91FX carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCA63&P=7 (No needle valve) (OS 61 FX carb)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMW56&P=ML (Needle valve)
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGBG0&P=V (needle valve holder)
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My lhs hates me, They only carry some nasty brand of premix which looks like its 10 yrs past its use by date, all sperated and gunky looking and at $19.95 a litre [:'(]
I mix my own, and run all my tigres on 5:1 with no nitro, so fuel isnt too bad at all. My YS motors are a different story, I run all of them on 30% nitro and that tickles the wallet [&:]
I mix my own, and run all my tigres on 5:1 with no nitro, so fuel isnt too bad at all. My YS motors are a different story, I run all of them on 30% nitro and that tickles the wallet [&:]
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I just picked up a G4500 for a Sig Sundancer Giant scale.... I have read online that these like methanol and castor.... I have heard 5 gallons methanol and a quart of castor would be a good mix. Opinions ? I know the G4500 is a "thirsty" motor... but this sounds like a good way to go... I also have a ST90 on another plane that would also benefit from this if it's a good way to go. Opinions ?
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I use methanol/synthectic at 5:1 on my motors 20cc and up to my ST600, they all run well on it. Thats 1 quart oil to 5 quarts methanol. I have never seen any gain from nitro that was worth the effort
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...I have heard 5 gallons methanol and a quart of castor would be a good mix. Opinions?...
...I have heard 5 gallons methanol and a quart of castor would be a good mix. Opinions?...
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Castor in the 18 to 20% range
On the 90 and based on where you live it is probably best to use 5%-10% nitro fuel from the hobby shop but get some with a little castor oil in it or add the castor oil yourself
The Methanol in Australia is different that the methanol you are going to get in Dayton OH.
The Australian Methanol has a few points of Acetone in it. This acts as an ignition stabilizer
If you mix some in the US with just Methanol and caster the needle valve will be on the sensitive side and the engine will have a ragged sound to it. At least that's my experience running home brew in a ST46 forty years ago.
On the 90 and based on where you live it is probably best to use 5%-10% nitro fuel from the hobby shop but get some with a little castor oil in it or add the castor oil yourself
The Methanol in Australia is different that the methanol you are going to get in Dayton OH.
The Australian Methanol has a few points of Acetone in it. This acts as an ignition stabilizer
If you mix some in the US with just Methanol and caster the needle valve will be on the sensitive side and the engine will have a ragged sound to it. At least that's my experience running home brew in a ST46 forty years ago.
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I might just keep running the low nitro premix for the 90... and mix my own for the 4500
So basically a 5:1 ratio..... whatever unit of measure you use..... 1 gallon castor to 5 of methanol... or 1 quart casto to 5 quarts methanol... etc
that still seems cheaper to run in the 4500 than buying a gallon of premix every time you fly.....
new question now.... good source for a good castor ? haha
So basically a 5:1 ratio..... whatever unit of measure you use..... 1 gallon castor to 5 of methanol... or 1 quart casto to 5 quarts methanol... etc
that still seems cheaper to run in the 4500 than buying a gallon of premix every time you fly.....
new question now.... good source for a good castor ? haha
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I run cool power synthetic, and have done for years with no adverse effects, good castor here is getting to be like hens teeth. I buy methanol in bulk (200L drums), and I get methanol for about the same price as gas doing so. I also sell to others so its win win all round. My biggest problem is nitro for my YS engines []
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I dont find the cost to use methanol in my 26cc MVVS and 30cc Saito too big an issue > I get the methanol by the gallon and the EDL synthetic by the half gallon and the nitro by the half gallon.Mix is 10% oil 5% nitro and fuel consumtion is on mid gas is about 1 onz per minute or 2 onz per minute WOT. The difference is WOT with the glow engine is easily 25% more than most gassers of same CC
Based on that I would probably opt soon to get 200Liters of methanol and chase up a few bigger second hand Supertigers like 30cc 35cc and 60CC or failing that get other makes of glow motors of similar power and dimensions
The methanol fuel consumption is about 1/3 more than a gasser and as my local prices for Methanol in 200L are about 50% more than gas I estimate it costs twice the price than running a gasser,However unless I drop my electrics which I fly a lot at the same time the few flight every weekend about one gallon of glow a weekend don't make it worth it for me to switch over to gassers full time.If however I was doing three gallon s a week of glow fuel then getting a gasser might be more interesting to keep costs down
Certianly more than 60cc I would change to gassers
Balaseater
Based on that I would probably opt soon to get 200Liters of methanol and chase up a few bigger second hand Supertigers like 30cc 35cc and 60CC or failing that get other makes of glow motors of similar power and dimensions
The methanol fuel consumption is about 1/3 more than a gasser and as my local prices for Methanol in 200L are about 50% more than gas I estimate it costs twice the price than running a gasser,However unless I drop my electrics which I fly a lot at the same time the few flight every weekend about one gallon of glow a weekend don't make it worth it for me to switch over to gassers full time.If however I was doing three gallon s a week of glow fuel then getting a gasser might be more interesting to keep costs down
Certianly more than 60cc I would change to gassers
Balaseater
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The Australian Methanol has a few points of Acetone in it. This acts as an ignition stabilizer
The Australian Methanol has a few points of Acetone in it. This acts as an ignition stabilizer
qldviking
I'm getting castor here in Adelaide for $8 a litre and there's a guy near Melbourne who sells it for about the same (plus postage). This is the ad he runs in a Victorian newsletter.
"Castor oil for sale!
Highest quality first pressing de gummed.
Price: $40 for 5 litres (including container) + P&H
$10 in Victoria
$15 SA, TAS & NSW
$20 QLD, WA & NT
Premixed diesel fuel also available – POA
Ph Ken 03 9398 8244
Email: [email protected]"
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here's my .03cents worth. back in the thread mentioned turning carb barrell to adjust or rather correct midrange load up and bad transion thru midrange i read years ago about this, i can't remember all the details, i saved the notes on which way to twist the barrel to enrichen or lean out the midrange, but can't remember where they went either. must be old age. if s/tigre is having carb probems as many in this thread have addressed, maybe s/tigre should look at what fox did some yrs. back when guys were slamming their carbs. and performance probs. they made aviab. a perry carb. mounted on a carb. adapter sold this combo with their .60 eagles, i bought several of these and they ran great. i put a perry on a .61 fox hawk and it ran very good, idle/mid/wot. i have put perrys and some os 7d, when they were avaib., on many of my s/tigres .51's-4500's. over all i don't think anyone can go wrong w/sup. tigre engines. they run strong, great price, and will last a long time, if taken care of. i bought mine when they were made in italy. haven't had any experience w/chin. made ones tho.
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I used to have a lot of Super Tigers and I always thought the original Super Tiger carbs were the greatest.
One of my Super Tigers (A Como 40) had a Perry carb. It ran great too. I got it in a horse trade. I don't know if it came that way from Indy R/C?
One of my Super Tigers (A Como 40) had a Perry carb. It ran great too. I got it in a horse trade. I don't know if it came that way from Indy R/C?