Ryan STA/STM Brotherhood
12-17-2015, 08:50 AM
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Joshua,
I have been doing a little more research and I found an old plan service that may have some of his designs. I'll let you know what they say when I get a reply.
Interesting thread on hobby building tools here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2545677
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01-01-2016, 06:25 PM
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Hey All, Happy New Year
I ran up the new DLE 55 for the second time to get the throttle servo to work it's show and ran it for about ten minutes when the engine decided to shake itself right off the plane
Good clean breakaway and I got her back on with some beef-up of the motor box!
I also installed a Eagle Tree Guardian in her for some help on the rudder during landings! That 100" of wing with only 14" of wheel footprint, she tends to tip a wing and nose over... like everytime!
I should be able to get her to the field this coming week!
Dan
I ran up the new DLE 55 for the second time to get the throttle servo to work it's show and ran it for about ten minutes when the engine decided to shake itself right off the plane
Good clean breakaway and I got her back on with some beef-up of the motor box!
I also installed a Eagle Tree Guardian in her for some help on the rudder during landings! That 100" of wing with only 14" of wheel footprint, she tends to tip a wing and nose over... like everytime!
I should be able to get her to the field this coming week!
Dan
01-04-2016, 07:46 AM
#204
Hey All, Happy New Year
I ran up the new DLE 55 for the second time to get the throttle servo to work it's show and ran it for about ten minutes when the engine decided to shake itself right off the plane
Good clean breakaway and I got her back on with some beef-up of the motor box!
I also installed a Eagle Tree Guardian in her for some help on the rudder during landings! That 100" of wing with only 14" of wheel footprint, she tends to tip a wing and nose over... like everytime!
I should be able to get her to the field this coming week!
Dan
I ran up the new DLE 55 for the second time to get the throttle servo to work it's show and ran it for about ten minutes when the engine decided to shake itself right off the plane
Good clean breakaway and I got her back on with some beef-up of the motor box!
I also installed a Eagle Tree Guardian in her for some help on the rudder during landings! That 100" of wing with only 14" of wheel footprint, she tends to tip a wing and nose over... like everytime!
I should be able to get her to the field this coming week!
Dan
01-04-2016, 03:59 PM
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Not really! I have flown her 5 times as an electric but yes she'll maiden on Gas
I have to leave the Guardian off, take off, trim her out at low to moderate speed and then land.
Then I have to level the plane and switch on the Guardian so the Guardian "learns" level flight and then she'll be good to go! There should only be a little tweeking in pitch from there. Just hope the initial flight doesn't cost me another prop
Dan
01-26-2016, 08:06 PM
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Hey All,
Maidened a week ago and trimmed her out in prep for the guardian! On landing (good one) one of the 1/4" wheel wires broke right at the wing! The wheel and wire just pulled right out of the pants and she settled safely! Whew!
Fixed her up and taught the guardian what level is while at home. Took her out Sunday and had three flights and three excellent no-sweat take-offs and landings!
I gotta say... try the gurardian in your bird if she's got a few mean-streaks!
Can't wait til the week-end!
.
Dan
Maidened a week ago and trimmed her out in prep for the guardian! On landing (good one) one of the 1/4" wheel wires broke right at the wing! The wheel and wire just pulled right out of the pants and she settled safely! Whew!
Fixed her up and taught the guardian what level is while at home. Took her out Sunday and had three flights and three excellent no-sweat take-offs and landings!
I gotta say... try the gurardian in your bird if she's got a few mean-streaks!
Can't wait til the week-end!
.
Dan
02-17-2016, 08:10 AM
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FYI all
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXETVD&P=7
Also, member #18 Ken Kehlet with a t not n at the end.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXETVD&P=7
Also, member #18 Ken Kehlet with a t not n at the end.
05-16-2016, 02:35 PM
#209
Good day. I stumbled on this thread and joined because the Ryan has always been one of my favorites. I've been searching for a balsa kit but they are hard to find. I missed one on flea-bay by $30. a few weeks ago and then found a Phoenix ARF at Tower. It arrived and so far I'm impressed with what I see. I haven't started building it yet but have been reading and studying what's involved. This will be my first ARF having been a balsa builder for many years. On another forum there is a build thread and the plane got good reviews. I'm optimistic with what I've observed so far.
Just wanted to ask what you Ryan folks think about using a YS-FZ 120 in my Ryan. Too much power? It pulled an 18 pound 1/4 Scale Cessna 140 around at 1/4 throttle so I know it will fly this plane. I'd like to mount it inverted to keep the cowl intact but I haven't tried it yet. Cooling might be a problem with the limited inlet area. Anyone else have trouble keeping the engine cool enough with the scale openings in the front? Do I need to consider enlarging them a little? I'd hate to but...
Thanks for having me as a member and I'm looking forward to enjoying your forum.
Tom
Just wanted to ask what you Ryan folks think about using a YS-FZ 120 in my Ryan. Too much power? It pulled an 18 pound 1/4 Scale Cessna 140 around at 1/4 throttle so I know it will fly this plane. I'd like to mount it inverted to keep the cowl intact but I haven't tried it yet. Cooling might be a problem with the limited inlet area. Anyone else have trouble keeping the engine cool enough with the scale openings in the front? Do I need to consider enlarging them a little? I'd hate to but...
Thanks for having me as a member and I'm looking forward to enjoying your forum.
Tom
05-16-2016, 02:43 PM
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Hi Tom
The YS-FZ 120 will be an overkill but you can always throttle back. If I were you and the engine fits inside the cowl - I would go to the largest prop I can / dare fit and run the engine slightly rich. This way I think that you will not have to enlarge the cooling hole.
I fly mine with a diesel converted OS 60 FSR turning a 15 X 6 propeller and use full power only on take off. For cruising I am down to about 50% throttle.
This ARF is engineered and built very light and it shows in the flying qualities. I am sure that you will enjoy it very much.
Joshua
The YS-FZ 120 will be an overkill but you can always throttle back. If I were you and the engine fits inside the cowl - I would go to the largest prop I can / dare fit and run the engine slightly rich. This way I think that you will not have to enlarge the cooling hole.
I fly mine with a diesel converted OS 60 FSR turning a 15 X 6 propeller and use full power only on take off. For cruising I am down to about 50% throttle.
This ARF is engineered and built very light and it shows in the flying qualities. I am sure that you will enjoy it very much.
Joshua
05-16-2016, 04:53 PM
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Hi Tom
The YS-FZ 120 will be an overkill but you can always throttle back. If I were you and the engine fits inside the cowl - I would go to the largest prop I can / dare fit and run the engine slightly rich. This way I think that you will not have to enlarge the cooling hole.
I fly mine with a diesel converted OS 60 FSR turning a 15 X 6 propeller and use full power only on take off. For cruising I am down to about 50% throttle.
This ARF is engineered and built very light and it shows in the flying qualities. I am sure that you will enjoy it very much.
Joshua
The YS-FZ 120 will be an overkill but you can always throttle back. If I were you and the engine fits inside the cowl - I would go to the largest prop I can / dare fit and run the engine slightly rich. This way I think that you will not have to enlarge the cooling hole.
I fly mine with a diesel converted OS 60 FSR turning a 15 X 6 propeller and use full power only on take off. For cruising I am down to about 50% throttle.
This ARF is engineered and built very light and it shows in the flying qualities. I am sure that you will enjoy it very much.
Joshua
Thanks, Joshua.
I appreciate the input. I've always tended toward the higher end when it comes to engines and unlike some flyers I see, I know what that throttle stick is for. As I stated above I flew that big Cessna at 1/4 throttle most of the time and often did 1/2 throttle take offs. It flies very realistically like that but...that extra kick was always there if/when I needed it. I feel the same about this Ryan. If I can get good ground clearance with a 16-8 prop I think I'll be okay. I won't know until I get the plane up on its wheels and see where I'm at. I also have a Saito 91 that would probably suffice but at the lower end of that power scale I mentioned.
Thanks again and I apologize for bumping an old thread but it is 'subject specific'.
Tom
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05-18-2016, 03:13 PM
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Thanks, Joshua.
I appreciate the input. I've always tended toward the higher end when it comes to engines and unlike some flyers I see, I know that that throttle stick is for. As I stated above I flew that big Cessna at 1/4 throttle most of the time and often did 1/2 throttle take offs. It flies very realistically like that but...that extra kick was always there if/when I needed it. I feel the same about this Ryan. If I can get good ground clearance with a 16-8 prop I think I'll be okay. I won't know until I get the plane up on its wheels and see where I'm at. I also have a Saito 91 that would probably suffice but at the lower end of that power scale I mentioned.
Thanks again and I apologize for bumping an old thread but it is 'subject specific'.
Tom
I appreciate the input. I've always tended toward the higher end when it comes to engines and unlike some flyers I see, I know that that throttle stick is for. As I stated above I flew that big Cessna at 1/4 throttle most of the time and often did 1/2 throttle take offs. It flies very realistically like that but...that extra kick was always there if/when I needed it. I feel the same about this Ryan. If I can get good ground clearance with a 16-8 prop I think I'll be okay. I won't know until I get the plane up on its wheels and see where I'm at. I also have a Saito 91 that would probably suffice but at the lower end of that power scale I mentioned.
Thanks again and I apologize for bumping an old thread but it is 'subject specific'.
Tom
I have 36 flights on her with a DLE 55 rear exhaust and no additional cooling holes! Runs great!
05-22-2016, 01:55 PM
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Hey Deadstick: how did you find the assembly of that Ryan?
i have one underway and can't say I'm all that impressed. Missing hardware, lousy instructions and the fit of the fiberglass strut covers to the wing is lacking. That's as far as I've gone, hoping this is the worst of it.
On the bright side, they did respond quickly when I contacted them about the missing bits, and they shipped fast.
i have one underway and can't say I'm all that impressed. Missing hardware, lousy instructions and the fit of the fiberglass strut covers to the wing is lacking. That's as far as I've gone, hoping this is the worst of it.
On the bright side, they did respond quickly when I contacted them about the missing bits, and they shipped fast.
05-22-2016, 04:16 PM
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Hey Deadstick: how did you find the assembly of that Ryan?
i have one underway and can't say I'm all that impressed. Missing hardware, lousy instructions and the fit of the fiberglass strut covers to the wing is lacking. That's as far as I've gone, hoping this is the worst of it.
On the bright side, they did respond quickly when I contacted them about the missing bits, and they shipped fast.
i have one underway and can't say I'm all that impressed. Missing hardware, lousy instructions and the fit of the fiberglass strut covers to the wing is lacking. That's as far as I've gone, hoping this is the worst of it.
On the bright side, they did respond quickly when I contacted them about the missing bits, and they shipped fast.
You will absolutely love how she handles!
What engine are you planning to use?
You won't NEED flaps but they're fun!
DAn
05-22-2016, 06:53 PM
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My only complaint is the whole main gear situation period! The 1/4" legs are way too long to go unsupported! She was all over the runway and loved to nose over breaking many a prop in the process! After much of this bull... I yanked the whole main set up off the wing and put a sturdy one piece metal gear just in front of the leading edge! I know... it's sacrilegious but what a gas she is on take offs and landings! I had the first twenty flights with the old gear and hours of repairs! The last twenty flights have been a real treat and all on the same prop and not one repair!
You will absolutely love how she handles!
What engine are you planning to use?
You won't NEED flaps but they're fun!
DAn
You will absolutely love how she handles!
What engine are you planning to use?
You won't NEED flaps but they're fun!
DAn
I was dubious of the landing gear to begin with... now I'm even more so. I'll give them a go... but I'm seriously thinking about oleo struts to replace them. And maybe replace the wheels too.
So far I'm not impressed with the hardware. I've already replaced the aileron linkages with 4-40 threaded rod and ball links. Will do the same with the elevators. Might do the flaps too, haven't decided (since they are "nice to have" but not critical to flight). Twisted the head off one screw tonight while attaching the landing gear straps. The control horns look... aged? Dull, almost grimy or something. Replaced them with some Dubro ones anyway.
The airframe itself looks great. The fiberglass parts are very nice too.
Overall I'm very anxious to get this bird together and out to the field.
05-23-2016, 06:47 PM
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My plan is a Rimfire 65cc and 12S (yes, electric). I hate having non-scale stuff sticking out of my cowls! The 65cc may be overkill, but it's what I have available and should help with balancing.
I was dubious of the landing gear to begin with... now I'm even more so. I'll give them a go... but I'm seriously thinking about oleo struts to replace them. And maybe replace the wheels too.
So far I'm not impressed with the hardware. I've already replaced the aileron linkages with 4-40 threaded rod and ball links. Will do the same with the elevators. Might do the flaps too, haven't decided (since they are "nice to have" but not critical to flight). Twisted the head off one screw tonight while attaching the landing gear straps. The control horns look... aged? Dull, almost grimy or something. Replaced them with some Dubro ones anyway.
The airframe itself looks great. The fiberglass parts are very nice too.
Overall I'm very anxious to get this bird together and out to the field.
I was dubious of the landing gear to begin with... now I'm even more so. I'll give them a go... but I'm seriously thinking about oleo struts to replace them. And maybe replace the wheels too.
So far I'm not impressed with the hardware. I've already replaced the aileron linkages with 4-40 threaded rod and ball links. Will do the same with the elevators. Might do the flaps too, haven't decided (since they are "nice to have" but not critical to flight). Twisted the head off one screw tonight while attaching the landing gear straps. The control horns look... aged? Dull, almost grimy or something. Replaced them with some Dubro ones anyway.
The airframe itself looks great. The fiberglass parts are very nice too.
Overall I'm very anxious to get this bird together and out to the field.
I had the old Byron Ryan back in the 80's and she looked and flew beautifully!
This one is a looker and flys even better!
Here's a pic of mine with the Sig Rascal landing gear!
Took a while to get used to the beauty of the original gear but hey, ground handling is a dream!
05-25-2016, 08:41 AM
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I hear ya!
I had the old Byron Ryan back in the 80's and she looked and flew beautifully!
This one is a looker and flys even better!
Here's a pic of mine with the Sig Rascal landing gear!
Took a while to get used to the beauty of the original gear but hey, ground handling is a dream!
Once I get her all together (installing the wheels is currently kicking my butt, but a few minutes with a Dremel should fix that), I plan to do some taxi tests. If need be, I'll increase elevator throw to help keep the tail planted.
07-31-2016, 06:17 PM
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Finally got my RC Guys Ryan in the air today! Only a single flight, about 6 minutes. However I checked the flight packs and they were still at 75%, so I could have flown much longer. 6 minutes was all my nerves could handle on the maiden flight!
First takeoff attempt ended with a nose over & broken prop, but I brought a spare. The second try obviously went much better.
First takeoff attempt ended with a nose over & broken prop, but I brought a spare. The second try obviously went much better.
08-30-2016, 05:23 PM
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Thanks!
I was so stressed during the maiden that I really don't remember much of the actual flight. Since I didn't have to fix anything, I guess it went pretty well
Had it out again this past weekend. What a *****cat! I wish all my planes were so well-mannered.
I was so stressed during the maiden that I really don't remember much of the actual flight. Since I didn't have to fix anything, I guess it went pretty well
Had it out again this past weekend. What a *****cat! I wish all my planes were so well-mannered.
12-24-2016, 02:45 AM
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Welcome to the Brotherhood Iowa54, you are #38! Good luck with your project.
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12-25-2016, 10:52 AM
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I would be honored to be included in the list. I've been flying my Phoenix STA for a few months. It has become my go-to plane when I just want a day of fun relaxed and rewarding flights. Mine is powered by a Saito 100 and it seems like the perfect combination. My camera died and I'm hoping there is a new one under the Christmas tree. If so I'll post a photo after the holidays.
This was my first ever ARF having always built my planes and to be honest I was skeptical but the airframe has given me no problems.
The wheel pants aren't the greatest and I've removed them due to cracking. Otherwise the plane is strong and shows no sign of structural problems.
Tom
This was my first ever ARF having always built my planes and to be honest I was skeptical but the airframe has given me no problems.
The wheel pants aren't the greatest and I've removed them due to cracking. Otherwise the plane is strong and shows no sign of structural problems.
Tom
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12-25-2016, 11:33 AM
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