Gilmore Red Lion Build
01-04-2015, 05:35 PM
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Just about got the wing kit complete.
4 ribs have to be remade. The aposing ribs at each wing joint. I cut a detail into them that they don't get and it interferes with a detail they do get.
Have to get more material to do that.
I laminated some balsa for the trailing edge. At it's widest it is a little over 1/2 inch. So I took some 1/4 inch and 1/6 and lamed them together. Then Cut a rabbit In the edge for 1/2 the thickness of a sliver of G10. Then yellow glued the mass of the sandwich with epoxy at the G10 lam.
This will be the knife edge of the trailing edge.
Kevin
4 ribs have to be remade. The aposing ribs at each wing joint. I cut a detail into them that they don't get and it interferes with a detail they do get.
Have to get more material to do that.
I laminated some balsa for the trailing edge. At it's widest it is a little over 1/2 inch. So I took some 1/4 inch and 1/6 and lamed them together. Then Cut a rabbit In the edge for 1/2 the thickness of a sliver of G10. Then yellow glued the mass of the sandwich with epoxy at the G10 lam.
This will be the knife edge of the trailing edge.
Kevin
01-05-2015, 02:21 PM
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Yea I thought so too Mike. The trick will be to put a tapered dado into the edge for a tight fit.
The leading edge gets 1/8 notches for the front of the wing ribs.
The wing on the Gilmore is very slender. Not a lot of girth to it.
One of the reasons for enlarging the plane was to make room for a wing tube.
Mike, did read the part of the history were Weddle had a wing tear off and he road the fuse down and survived (that one any way) ?
I'd call that a change the underwear moment.
Kevin
The leading edge gets 1/8 notches for the front of the wing ribs.
The wing on the Gilmore is very slender. Not a lot of girth to it.
One of the reasons for enlarging the plane was to make room for a wing tube.
Mike, did read the part of the history were Weddle had a wing tear off and he road the fuse down and survived (that one any way) ?
I'd call that a change the underwear moment.
Kevin
01-11-2015, 02:33 PM
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Recut the wing joint ribs and fitted them with D-sub connectors.
Also installed alignment/anti-rotation pins. I used 1/4 brass for the pins cause they are a true 1/4 and won't change dimensionally.
Will eventually backfill the brass to make it stout.
Kevn
Also installed alignment/anti-rotation pins. I used 1/4 brass for the pins cause they are a true 1/4 and won't change dimensionally.
Will eventually backfill the brass to make it stout.
Kevn
01-12-2015, 05:02 PM
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Likewise I was told they would be a problem, but so far so good. Thanks to Robert for the idea!
That was a good though on the alignment pin Kevin. I shall file that in the back of my mind for future use. (I know, that's a very bad place to file it!)
That was a good though on the alignment pin Kevin. I shall file that in the back of my mind for future use. (I know, that's a very bad place to file it!)
01-12-2015, 05:23 PM
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Robert,
On the D-sub. It is a VERY snug connection.
Was thinking I may need a disconnect lever (kinda like the cockpit module release on my Space Walker)
Any thoughts on this ?
Maybe when there is a whole wing to tug on it won't feel so tight.
I do love this arrangement though. The thought of not having to fish for wires upon field assembly warms the cockles of my heart.
David, has work slowed yet ?
All work, no play makes Jack rich and disgruntled.
Kevin
On the D-sub. It is a VERY snug connection.
Was thinking I may need a disconnect lever (kinda like the cockpit module release on my Space Walker)
Any thoughts on this ?
Maybe when there is a whole wing to tug on it won't feel so tight.
I do love this arrangement though. The thought of not having to fish for wires upon field assembly warms the cockles of my heart.
David, has work slowed yet ?
All work, no play makes Jack rich and disgruntled.
Kevin
01-12-2015, 05:32 PM
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You are right Kevin in the wing adds a great deal of tugging leverage, so much so it is not even felt. And I always add rotation pins, just seems right to me. I even use them on one piece top or bottom fed wings. Seriously aids in lining the wing exactly every time, only for those I call them alignment pins.
01-12-2015, 05:43 PM
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Kevin, work has not subsided yet, although it might for me since I am now sick. I'm not sick enough to not go to work yet, but...
As for the alignment pins, I was referring to using brass. The thought of having a constant size as opposed to something that could swell or contract is something to keep in mind.
As for the alignment pins, I was referring to using brass. The thought of having a constant size as opposed to something that could swell or contract is something to keep in mind.
01-12-2015, 06:34 PM
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Robert, I will happily dispose of the disconnect lever thought.
That idea had pain in the _ _ _ all over it.
David, I feel your pain.
This is my 3rd week working while sick.
2 weeks with head cold. This week, cold virus left me with sinus infection, Yippiiiiii.
I knew you were talking about the brass.
The brass was an after thought.
I had 3/8 and 1/2 dowel rods. When I put the calipers on them, one was oval and one was over.
Then I heard the brass say "Check Me, Check Me....."
Kevin
That idea had pain in the _ _ _ all over it.
David, I feel your pain.
This is my 3rd week working while sick.
2 weeks with head cold. This week, cold virus left me with sinus infection, Yippiiiiii.
I knew you were talking about the brass.
The brass was an after thought.
I had 3/8 and 1/2 dowel rods. When I put the calipers on them, one was oval and one was over.
Then I heard the brass say "Check Me, Check Me....."
Kevin
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01-14-2015, 11:43 AM
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Robert,
On the D-sub. It is a VERY snug connection.
Was thinking I may need a disconnect lever (kinda like the cockpit module release on my Space Walker)
Any thoughts on this ?
Maybe when there is a whole wing to tug on it won't feel so tight.
I do love this arrangement though. The thought of not having to fish for wires upon field assembly warms the cockles of my heart.
David, has work slowed yet ?
All work, no play makes Jack rich and disgruntled.
Kevin
On the D-sub. It is a VERY snug connection.
Was thinking I may need a disconnect lever (kinda like the cockpit module release on my Space Walker)
Any thoughts on this ?
Maybe when there is a whole wing to tug on it won't feel so tight.
I do love this arrangement though. The thought of not having to fish for wires upon field assembly warms the cockles of my heart.
David, has work slowed yet ?
All work, no play makes Jack rich and disgruntled.
Kevin
LOL
01-14-2015, 02:11 PM
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Vince,
Feeling much better. Started a Z-pac on Friday. Almost my old self.
Thanks for asking
The cockles of the heart are its ventricles, named by some in Latin as "cochleae cordis", from "cochlea" (snail), alluding to their shape. The saying means to warm and gratify one's deepest feelings.
I don't know how far back that saying goes but I remember it as a kid. Always liked that saying.
Kevin
Feeling much better. Started a Z-pac on Friday. Almost my old self.
Thanks for asking
The cockles of the heart are its ventricles, named by some in Latin as "cochleae cordis", from "cochlea" (snail), alluding to their shape. The saying means to warm and gratify one's deepest feelings.
I don't know how far back that saying goes but I remember it as a kid. Always liked that saying.
Kevin
01-15-2015, 05:44 AM
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Hi Kevin, Vinny tipped me off to your thread and I'm excited to follow along. I built an electric 1/6 scale (52" ws) from a short kit designed by Jim Young in the Miss Patterson red and black scheme. Love the lines of those of the Golden Age planes!
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01-15-2015, 07:52 AM
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Vince,
Feeling much better. Started a Z-pac on Friday. Almost my old self.
Thanks for asking
The cockles of the heart are its ventricles, named by some in Latin as "cochleae cordis", from "cochlea" (snail), alluding to their shape. The saying means to warm and gratify one's deepest feelings.
I don't know how far back that saying goes but I remember it as a kid. Always liked that saying.
Kevin
Feeling much better. Started a Z-pac on Friday. Almost my old self.
Thanks for asking
The cockles of the heart are its ventricles, named by some in Latin as "cochleae cordis", from "cochlea" (snail), alluding to their shape. The saying means to warm and gratify one's deepest feelings.
I don't know how far back that saying goes but I remember it as a kid. Always liked that saying.
Kevin
01-15-2015, 04:16 PM
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So glad Vincent gave you the heads up.
Welcome aboard, will be nice to have another perspective on this bird.
Say, if you have some pictures of your Miss Patterson do post. Would love to see it.
Kevin
01-15-2015, 04:19 PM
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