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11-12-2015, 06:28 AM
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Thanks Kevin for the high praise. Not sure I deserve it. To be truthfull, I was pretty intimidated. Thats why I started the gear first. I figured if I failed the gear then I wouldnt be into a needless build. But like you said earlier, you just start a portion you know how to do then it starts to fall into place with a little head scratching.
I'll be watching for Captain Lucky's arrival.
Jason
I'll be watching for Captain Lucky's arrival.
Jason
11-12-2015, 09:24 PM
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11-23-2015, 06:33 PM
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Ok I am back at it. After 9 months I am back on the wing. This wing has been tying up my build table all this time. That's why you didn't see the glass work or the horizontal stab fabricated on it. All that stuff was done in my wood shop. Glad to be back in the model room.
When we left off on the starboard wing it was in this state.
Now all the ribs are set to the main spar and the main spar sheer webs are in.
Lots to do to the starboard side but I got a good start tonight .
Just an FYI. I migrated the entirety of this build thread over to RCSB. I will be completing this build here as well as there. Over there I started the thread with the glass work, then the stab, then the wing. So It's a more orderly thread over there. If interested it is in the " Other Designers " forum. New content will be the same from this point forward so no need to go both places.
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When we left off on the starboard wing it was in this state.
Now all the ribs are set to the main spar and the main spar sheer webs are in.
Lots to do to the starboard side but I got a good start tonight .
Just an FYI. I migrated the entirety of this build thread over to RCSB. I will be completing this build here as well as there. Over there I started the thread with the glass work, then the stab, then the wing. So It's a more orderly thread over there. If interested it is in the " Other Designers " forum. New content will be the same from this point forward so no need to go both places.
Kevin
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12-06-2015, 01:34 PM
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Got the right wing panel caught up with the left one finally.
The wing tips are kind of complex on the RL. They change shape on a constant from fat Leading edge to knife trailing edge.
Before the tips can be shaped the leading edge needs to be sheeted. The leading edge sheeting gets let into the wing tip.
Kevin
The wing tips are kind of complex on the RL. They change shape on a constant from fat Leading edge to knife trailing edge.
Before the tips can be shaped the leading edge needs to be sheeted. The leading edge sheeting gets let into the wing tip.
Kevin
12-06-2015, 01:58 PM
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First a template was made for the correct arch on the end of the sheeting. I will use this same arch on all 4 sheet ends top and bottom to simplify. Then the template was used to make the layout on each wing tip.
The notches change as they go around the curve in depth and distance from edge. This is because the tip gets thinner and the angle of attack of the edge gets steeper. All notches were cut free hand with a scalpel. Cut a little check, Cut a little check, Wax on Wax off Danielson.
Before the leading edge sheeting can be installed Merlin Locks needed to be installed.
Kevin
The notches change as they go around the curve in depth and distance from edge. This is because the tip gets thinner and the angle of attack of the edge gets steeper. All notches were cut free hand with a scalpel. Cut a little check, Cut a little check, Wax on Wax off Danielson.
Before the leading edge sheeting can be installed Merlin Locks needed to be installed.
Kevin
12-06-2015, 02:32 PM
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Then the brass tubes were cut just proud of the framing and just under the skin. They were also entombed so they don't let go.
Then it seemed best to put the wing leading edge up to check and sand the framing in preparation for sheeting.
The leading edge got a little thinner at there ends at the joints so they got back filled with filler to make the joint straight.
The leading edge wing panel that was built in February was straight as an arrow. The recently completed leading edge had a slight bow in it. So the high side was sanded straight and the concave side was back filled straight. In all it was a little less than a 1/16 in 40 inches but noticeable.
Then the wing panels were separated and set on edge. One LE sheet was positioned and CA'd down. Then the wing was turned around and the other sheet was CA,d to the leading edge.
Then the wing panel was turned over and a syringe was used to get wood glue to the ribs at the point and then both sides were clamped at the same time along with the wing tips.
Only did this to one wing panel next up its brother.
Kevin
Then it seemed best to put the wing leading edge up to check and sand the framing in preparation for sheeting.
The leading edge got a little thinner at there ends at the joints so they got back filled with filler to make the joint straight.
The leading edge wing panel that was built in February was straight as an arrow. The recently completed leading edge had a slight bow in it. So the high side was sanded straight and the concave side was back filled straight. In all it was a little less than a 1/16 in 40 inches but noticeable.
Then the wing panels were separated and set on edge. One LE sheet was positioned and CA'd down. Then the wing was turned around and the other sheet was CA,d to the leading edge.
Then the wing panel was turned over and a syringe was used to get wood glue to the ribs at the point and then both sides were clamped at the same time along with the wing tips.
Only did this to one wing panel next up its brother.
Kevin
12-13-2015, 01:16 PM
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With both wing panels LE covered. Both wing panels were placed on the table and the tops were skinned.
The spring clamps that were use to pull the wing tip LE sheeting down were just a little to robust. One of the panels ended up with a nice circular dent around the perimeter.
Putty makes it look worse than it is. Most of that will sand away when tips are shaped.
Flipped over.
Next up. Servo bays, hinge blocking, embedded control horn. Then sheeting.
Kevin
The spring clamps that were use to pull the wing tip LE sheeting down were just a little to robust. One of the panels ended up with a nice circular dent around the perimeter.
Putty makes it look worse than it is. Most of that will sand away when tips are shaped. Flipped over.
Next up. Servo bays, hinge blocking, embedded control horn. Then sheeting.
Kevin
12-13-2015, 03:50 PM
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Thanks Robert,
I had considered doing that, but decided to just fill it. By the time I get to covering these wings there's liable to be hangar rash to fill also. I can be clumsy that way.
Kevin
I had considered doing that, but decided to just fill it. By the time I get to covering these wings there's liable to be hangar rash to fill also. I can be clumsy that way.
Kevin
03-19-2016, 04:08 AM
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Frazer, thank you for checking in.
No the build is not over. I have been logging the build on RCSB. In December I decided to do a build thread over there also.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...TID=24377&PN=1 You must register if you wish to view the thread. That is free. You must be a paying member to post more than 5 times. 20 dollars a year.
Originally I was going to do dual threads. Then RCU began to go adds crazy and interest here seemed to go cold. It took 3 months for anyone to care to ask about the build. It takes effort and time to log a build thread. It takes more time to do two.
Pete, thank you. It will go the distance for sure. With spring now here the build will slow down some. My guess completion some time in early 2017. That would make it a two year build.
Here are a few pics of where the build is at to date.
Gear mounts and inner cowl. Inner cowl was made with a plug, then mold, then layup.
The inner cowl ring will get scribed around the gear fairing and wing LE and end up stopping at the first belly pan former.
Kevin
No the build is not over. I have been logging the build on RCSB. In December I decided to do a build thread over there also.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...TID=24377&PN=1 You must register if you wish to view the thread. That is free. You must be a paying member to post more than 5 times. 20 dollars a year.
Originally I was going to do dual threads. Then RCU began to go adds crazy and interest here seemed to go cold. It took 3 months for anyone to care to ask about the build. It takes effort and time to log a build thread. It takes more time to do two.
Pete, thank you. It will go the distance for sure. With spring now here the build will slow down some. My guess completion some time in early 2017. That would make it a two year build.
Here are a few pics of where the build is at to date.
Gear mounts and inner cowl. Inner cowl was made with a plug, then mold, then layup.
The inner cowl ring will get scribed around the gear fairing and wing LE and end up stopping at the first belly pan former.
Kevin
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03-19-2016, 07:47 AM
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I second Kevin's use of RCSB (RC Scale Builder). If you are into scale building or just appreciate watching some of these talented (RC TopGun caliber) guys build then I would highly recommend becoming a member. Lots of information on the site and the members are very supportive to help out people looking to get into the hobby.
and no...... I'm not affiliated with the website. Just a happy member since 2008.
and no...... I'm not affiliated with the website. Just a happy member since 2008.
03-20-2016, 01:19 PM
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My old water funfly buddy/ building mentor Merlyn builds over there and boy can he build . He moved from IL to gods waiting room (FL) and flying his big stuff year round now so good for him. Been awhile Keven but very nice work sir joe
He moved from IL to gods waiting room (FL) and flying his big stuff year round now so good for him. Been awhile Keven but very nice work sir joe
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11-17-2020, 06:55 AM
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Frazer, thank you for checking in.
No the build is not over. I have been logging the build on RCSB. In December I decided to do a build thread over there also.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...TID=24377&PN=1 You must register if you wish to view the thread. That is free. You must be a paying member to post more than 5 times. 20 dollars a year.
Originally I was going to do dual threads. Then RCU began to go adds crazy and interest here seemed to go cold. It took 3 months for anyone to care to ask about the build. It takes effort and time to log a build thread. It takes more time to do two.
Pete, thank you. It will go the distance for sure. With spring now here the build will slow down some. My guess completion some time in early 2017. That would make it a two year build.
Here are a few pics of where the build is at to date.
Gear mounts and inner cowl. Inner cowl was made with a plug, then mold, then layup.
The inner cowl ring will get scribed around the gear fairing and wing LE and end up stopping at the first belly pan former.
Kevin
No the build is not over. I have been logging the build on RCSB. In December I decided to do a build thread over there also.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...TID=24377&PN=1 You must register if you wish to view the thread. That is free. You must be a paying member to post more than 5 times. 20 dollars a year.
Originally I was going to do dual threads. Then RCU began to go adds crazy and interest here seemed to go cold. It took 3 months for anyone to care to ask about the build. It takes effort and time to log a build thread. It takes more time to do two.
Pete, thank you. It will go the distance for sure. With spring now here the build will slow down some. My guess completion some time in early 2017. That would make it a two year build.
Here are a few pics of where the build is at to date.
Gear mounts and inner cowl. Inner cowl was made with a plug, then mold, then layup.
The inner cowl ring will get scribed around the gear fairing and wing LE and end up stopping at the first belly pan former.
Kevin
Thank you
Frank Rega