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    Scientific "Miss America"

    I building a Scientific "Miss America"
    a 1935 design by Frank Zaic. In the plans
    it call for the sides to be covered by
    Sig Kromekote. I can't find any thing on
    Sig Kromekote, I'm assuming it is some
    sort of monokote in the pre-monokote
    days. The nose of the ship is to covered
    with it also. What modern product can I
    use to finish my plane with and still keep
    the vintage flavor.

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    I spent today getting a suntan and flying my Miss America while sitting in a chair so I could follow it up high into the sky. Climb to altitude, shut off the engine and circle around with the turkey vultures. Mine is built from Norm Rosenstock's 62" version published in Model Aviation in 1994. It is one sweet old-timer. Power is an OS.10FP.
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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    Thanks for the pic, I hope mine
    turns out as well as yours did. I
    Have all my frame parts made
    I'm still sanding and considering
    engine choices, and hardware
    & radio installation. Did your plans
    have only one elevator flap on
    the right side? I would like to
    see more pics of your plane. Could
    you remove the main wing and make
    a picture of the servos.

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    I think Kromekote is a type of light cardboard that has a plastic type coating on one side . Think that also is a brand name & was not made by SIG. We used to cover foam wings with it & it finished up very nice . Friend of mine made a Miss America from a old kit & it had 1/64 plywood to cover the nose & fuselage sides back to the trailing edge of the wing . He might have stained it or just clear doped it . The rest of the plane was white Super Mono-coat & was very impressive looking ! Flew it for years! They are a nice old bird . Good luck , MAX H.

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    While learning to use my new digital camera I shot the interiors of my planes, so here it is. I used a two-sided elevator, but I think one side would be adequate for flight trim. Egged on by bored kibitzers at the field yesterday I actually looped Miss America and did two barrel rolls just to shut them up which shows that the full elevator has a lot of power.

    And I think Glen and Hazel Sig were not in the hobby business until nearly two decades after Zaic published the design.
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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    Thanks for the picture, I see some things
    I need to do to mine. This is only my
    second scratch built plane, I've built alot
    of kits and most of the guess work is done
    for you. Next time you take it flying, take
    your camera and make me some more
    pictures.

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    Kromekote is a coated shiny white cardstock. Makes a great window-frame and nose covering material for lighweight models. And a pretty decent foam core wing skin. But it does dent easily on a wing. The old Flite Line Skooter and Fun-Fly kits came with Kromekote covering.

    http://www.artglitter.com/Merchant2/...egory_Code=acc

    There, got it spelled right!

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    Dave Segal,
    Thanks for posting your Miss America picture. I looked in the AMA plans and it was in Model Aviation, July 1994.

    I liked your picture so much that I right-moused it as my screen background.

    Do you know if there are plans out there for an .09 size Scientific "Mercury?" Someone used to make a 09 size replica kit but I forget who. Shoulda grabbed one when they were available.

    Do you have any more .09 size cabin type pictures you could post?

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    John Pond had Mercury's listed in 30", 42", 50" and 72" spans. No idea when AMA will be able to sell these again. Model Builder has a 72" span plan and Bob Sliff has a kit for 72" size. See http://home.comcast.net/~bsli40/Page4.html#Old Timer Kits

    You can see a photo of my .10 Quaker Flash at http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Want...1769369/tm.htm
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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    Dave,

    Wow, a wealth of information in your post.

    Your Quaker Flash-10 is a real gem.

    My 54" Quaker is a Campbell kit. My Cleveland Cloudster is the same one shown on that site.

    Looks like some of my allowance is going for freeflight models.

    These old-timers fly with such elegance it's hard to imagine anyone not wanting at least one.

    Thanks

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    kdHeath,

    Thanks for the info, I've looked
    all over the internet for kromekote.
    I just didn't look in the right place.
    My next question is how is it applied and
    will it shrink?

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    You must be building a smaller version of the Miss America ,the original had a 80 inch wing span & the front part was covered with a light plywood or veiner it was done for added strength in the front area. Yours being small (I think?) just uses The Kromkote cardboard , it is not a covering material more for reinforcing. MAX H.

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    RE: Scientific "Miss America"

    No, it won't shrink like iron on coverings. It is a lot like file card stock, but they coat one side with a clay-based, shiny white coating. You just cut it out using a pattern and glue it on with Tite-Bond or Elmer's glue. Don't use CA-it'll run all over and stain the cardboard. It almost leaves clear spots. Just use the smallest amount of aliphitic glue. You can hold it down while it dries with tape. The blue 3M painters tape is great. Peel it off carefully and the coating will be OK. Did I say it goes white side out? Then cover over it like it was balsa. Light and very nice on small models.
    Kelvin

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    kdHeath,

    Thanks for the info, I've looked
    all over the internet for kromekote.
    I just didn't look in the right place.
    My next question is how is it applied and
    will it shrink?


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