Wanted Plans-Flying Saucer
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There are two saucer designs by Roy L. Clough Jr. in the October 1993 issue of Model Builder. The larger one is the Zoomslot for an .049 engine and single channel radio. The smaller Minislot Saucer is a freeflight electric. Both are oval-shaped in plan with a slot and a small vertical tail.
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Try Tom Dixon's site-about 2/3 of the way down the page, for plans for the Sassy Saucer. It was in AT 5/53. Is this the one?
http://members.tripod.com/~TomDixon/plans2.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~TomDixon/plans2.htm
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RE: Wanted Plans-Flying Saucer
American Modeler Oct 1960 has a construction article & plans for the 'PLATO". (AKA Canadian Saucer)
It is a RC flying saucer designed by Ernie Houslander. Dia is 30". Engine was a .15. It even had single channel galloping ghost control using a mighty midget motor as an actuator
Good luck,
Bob G.
It is a RC flying saucer designed by Ernie Houslander. Dia is 30". Engine was a .15. It even had single channel galloping ghost control using a mighty midget motor as an actuator
Good luck,
Bob G.
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Sid,
I think that I might have the plans to the one you are thinking of. Was it was a 1/2 powered design that mounted the engine on a stalk above the front of the platter? It was published in either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics around 1962. I have a copy of that issue somewhere around the house. This one was about two feet wide, and three feet long. The article also mention that it could be converted to RC. I think that it had two rudders
I think that I might have the plans to the one you are thinking of. Was it was a 1/2 powered design that mounted the engine on a stalk above the front of the platter? It was published in either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics around 1962. I have a copy of that issue somewhere around the house. This one was about two feet wide, and three feet long. The article also mention that it could be converted to RC. I think that it had two rudders
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I appreciate all the replies but none seem to be the right one. The original had the engine in the nose and was an 0.20. I replaced my 0.20 with a .049 and thinking back I first flew it outside Rome,NY. in about 1956-7.
It was damaged beyond repair when I flew it in a school yard years later and kids came running out of all the houses around the school, the engine quit and it glided in for a perfect landing but the lead kid in the pack chasing it planted his foot right in the middle of the model.
I think an R/C version was flown around Wash. DC. later and it was much larger. This is the one I would really like to build.
Thanks again for the replies.
It was damaged beyond repair when I flew it in a school yard years later and kids came running out of all the houses around the school, the engine quit and it glided in for a perfect landing but the lead kid in the pack chasing it planted his foot right in the middle of the model.
I think an R/C version was flown around Wash. DC. later and it was much larger. This is the one I would really like to build.
Thanks again for the replies.
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RE: Wanted Plans-Flying Saucer
I am also looking for a Free-Flight Flying Saucer from the 1950's. The ones we built were unique. They had turned up wing tips and a round disk shaped rudder mounted on a wire. They were powered by either an .020 or an .049. We used .049 McCoy diesels. It had two skids mounted under the belly, and one wheel (landing gear) up in the front. The engine was mounted on a neck. It's ribs were dolphin shaped and had one spar in the wing. The overall diameter of the craft was around 25". Someone has to remember the name of this model or the manufacturer. Ours were purchased in Compton California in the late 50's early 60's. It might be a small name manufacturer...don't know.
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I have a couple of actual saucers in the works, tests have proven quite promising and I plan upon building and reselling them in several stages, from freeflight glider version to all out RC. I like that photo of the GeoBat, it's a nice looking plane by the way.
Taking note, there are already contendors, here is a link to some vid to one of them I'm going to attemt to dialog with next:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/mvp/videolink.cfm?postid=754
This is just utterly cool, and utterly dissapointing since I have to cross out one of the past designs out of the pic for the patent since it's design was concieved of in 1939 when it's all said and done. Here if a crude photo of it's present stage:
After I get the first two online officially, I can work on a third that's just beyond traditional thinking in this area all together, the only hint will be, that fin has no place in it's design what so ever..............
Taking note, there are already contendors, here is a link to some vid to one of them I'm going to attemt to dialog with next:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/mvp/videolink.cfm?postid=754
This is just utterly cool, and utterly dissapointing since I have to cross out one of the past designs out of the pic for the patent since it's design was concieved of in 1939 when it's all said and done. Here if a crude photo of it's present stage:
After I get the first two online officially, I can work on a third that's just beyond traditional thinking in this area all together, the only hint will be, that fin has no place in it's design what so ever..............
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RE: Wanted Plans-Flying Saucer
ORIGINAL: g-rock
SidGates,
This is a Roy Clough Jr. design. Air Trails August 1952
Gene
SidGates,
This is a Roy Clough Jr. design. Air Trails August 1952
Gene
I for one am very pleased to get this one.
P.S. with the slot is it a Bi-Plane with serious stagger or a Tandem wing or even a Canard?
Happy New Year all,
old git.
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Hi I built a free flight saucer out of American Modeler that was an 0.020 design with a solid balsa wing undercambered and reflexed. It had twin rudders and in the article was marked with USAF markings. I nolonger have the plans or the magazines. But I know it was American modeler around the mid 60's I think...
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
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At the time this request was first made, PDF files were not allowed.
The following attachment is of the complete article plus full size for Roy L Clough's Flying Saucer.
Gene
The following attachment is of the complete article plus full size for Roy L Clough's Flying Saucer.
Gene
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Gene,
What an interesting article. I built mine in about 1953 or 54. I had it with me during my USAF career and first successfully flew it near Rome, NY in 1956. I went out to the local R/C field which was about 1/4mile square with one tree right in the middle of the pasture. I had tried to fly it with the .020 but wasn't reliable so I had replaced it with a Wasp .049.
I didn't know what to expect so fired up the engine and launched it from the edge of the field. It went absolutely straight across the field and hit the tree about 15 ft above the ground. It broke off the vertical fin which was easy to repair.
Later in about 1959 I had moved back to Kansas. I decided to fly it in a school yard behind my house. I fired it up and launched it over my back fence into the school yard. It had a circling climb and cirling glide. As soon as I launched it kids started coming out of every house around the school and before it ran out of fuel about 10 kids were running around following it. When it glided in for a perfect landing the lead kid of the pack planted his foot right in the middle of it.
I repaired it again and then moved to Denver. I had it at the R/C field in about 1962 and was getting some very nice flights when at about the peak of its climb (400-500ft) a very stiff wind came out of the west and quickly blew it out of site. My son and I looked for it for about an hour and gave up and went back to the R/C field. A little later a truck drove up to the R/C site pulling a fishing boat. A couple of guys got out of the truck and said any one lose this, there was my saucer. It had glided in and landed on Cherry Creek lake and sat down right by their boat.
I had such fun with that model I always wanted to try building a R/C version but no plans, only my memory. I think I remember seeing an R/C version in model magazine and it was built some where near Wash D.C. but have not been able to track that lead down.
Gene, thanks to you I have all I need to try my own R/C version. Did you drawn the original plan?
Sid
What an interesting article. I built mine in about 1953 or 54. I had it with me during my USAF career and first successfully flew it near Rome, NY in 1956. I went out to the local R/C field which was about 1/4mile square with one tree right in the middle of the pasture. I had tried to fly it with the .020 but wasn't reliable so I had replaced it with a Wasp .049.
I didn't know what to expect so fired up the engine and launched it from the edge of the field. It went absolutely straight across the field and hit the tree about 15 ft above the ground. It broke off the vertical fin which was easy to repair.
Later in about 1959 I had moved back to Kansas. I decided to fly it in a school yard behind my house. I fired it up and launched it over my back fence into the school yard. It had a circling climb and cirling glide. As soon as I launched it kids started coming out of every house around the school and before it ran out of fuel about 10 kids were running around following it. When it glided in for a perfect landing the lead kid of the pack planted his foot right in the middle of it.
I repaired it again and then moved to Denver. I had it at the R/C field in about 1962 and was getting some very nice flights when at about the peak of its climb (400-500ft) a very stiff wind came out of the west and quickly blew it out of site. My son and I looked for it for about an hour and gave up and went back to the R/C field. A little later a truck drove up to the R/C site pulling a fishing boat. A couple of guys got out of the truck and said any one lose this, there was my saucer. It had glided in and landed on Cherry Creek lake and sat down right by their boat.
I had such fun with that model I always wanted to try building a R/C version but no plans, only my memory. I think I remember seeing an R/C version in model magazine and it was built some where near Wash D.C. but have not been able to track that lead down.
Gene, thanks to you I have all I need to try my own R/C version. Did you drawn the original plan?
Sid
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Sid, I am not sure what you’re asking relative to the original plan. I have over the years, collected many of Roy Clough's articles but I was missing some that I wanted for my collection. I contacted Roy some ware around 2003 and at the same time I sent him a dxf file of the "Flying Saucer" that I had just finished and since I had only the small drawing from the article to go by, I wanted him to look it over. He loved it and then sent me a list of all of his publications which I then scanned; OCR'd, and then sent it back to him. He was very grateful for receiving an electronic copy. He also sent me high resolution hard copies of almost all of the articles that I was looking for. A very generous man! Wish I had known him personally.
Hope I have answered your question in my ramblings.
Gene
Hope I have answered your question in my ramblings.
Gene
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I think I remember seeing an R/C version in model magazine and it was built some where near Wash D.C. but have not been able to track that lead down.
Sid
I think I remember seeing an R/C version in model magazine and it was built some where near Wash D.C. but have not been able to track that lead down.
Sid
Here is the RC version, construction article in Model Airplane News April 1973.
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...April_1973.pdf
/Bo
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Bem,
You made my day, thanks for your effort in posting your reply. I have been looking for the original for over 5 years and found it last week. I did not remember that there was a construction article on the R/C version. It is very informative and of great interest to me.
Sid
You made my day, thanks for your effort in posting your reply. I have been looking for the original for over 5 years and found it last week. I did not remember that there was a construction article on the R/C version. It is very informative and of great interest to me.
Sid
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Sid,
There is more...
It was also a very very small RC version of the saucer, "Mini-Mini Saucer", 11 x 6 inch. Images below from Model Airplane News August 1973 where full seize plan also was shown. I have made two PDF files and if printed in A4 format with no scaling the length x width of the "wing" will be 11 x 6 inch (279 x 152 millimeter). I also made a link to the drawing in JPG if somone want to scale it up/down.
Drawing part 1 and 2 in PDF:
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...N_Aug_1973.pdf
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...N_Aug_1973.pdf
Drawing in JPG:
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...N_Aug_1973.jpg
/Bo
There is more...
It was also a very very small RC version of the saucer, "Mini-Mini Saucer", 11 x 6 inch. Images below from Model Airplane News August 1973 where full seize plan also was shown. I have made two PDF files and if printed in A4 format with no scaling the length x width of the "wing" will be 11 x 6 inch (279 x 152 millimeter). I also made a link to the drawing in JPG if somone want to scale it up/down.
Drawing part 1 and 2 in PDF:
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...N_Aug_1973.pdf
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...N_Aug_1973.pdf
Drawing in JPG:
http://www.algonet.se/~boem/Construc...N_Aug_1973.jpg
/Bo
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Sid,
May I ask if You remember anything from the NATS 1963 video You have on Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkJfP6ZDeA
Specifically the part where You filmed Ed Kazmirski and his Taurus 10:45 - 11:10 minutes in the video.
If You could comment some on that inClassic RC Pattern Flying forum here at RCU it would be very interesting, in this thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10889301
Questions in that thread lately are:
1. Was Ed actually at NATS 1963 flying his Taurus (Taurus II probably?)?
2. If he was there, was he competing in NATS 1963or was he just flying demo,show flying or similar?
3. Was he using Orbit radio and if so reed or proportional, and perhapsan Orbit prototype proportional not in production yet?
/Bo
May I ask if You remember anything from the NATS 1963 video You have on Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkJfP6ZDeA
Specifically the part where You filmed Ed Kazmirski and his Taurus 10:45 - 11:10 minutes in the video.
If You could comment some on that inClassic RC Pattern Flying forum here at RCU it would be very interesting, in this thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10889301
Questions in that thread lately are:
1. Was Ed actually at NATS 1963 flying his Taurus (Taurus II probably?)?
2. If he was there, was he competing in NATS 1963or was he just flying demo,show flying or similar?
3. Was he using Orbit radio and if so reed or proportional, and perhapsan Orbit prototype proportional not in production yet?
/Bo