Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick
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Jensen main gear dimensions are:
5" high, 13 1/4" wide.
The gear starts with a strip that is 2 3/16" wide and 18 1/4" long of 0.093 (3/32") material. The center part that mounts to the fuselage is 4 1/4" in width. The legs are 7" in length, and taper down to 3/4" from the 2 3/16" width over the 7 inches. The last 3/4" of each leg is bent for the wheel attachment, and the 3/4" tab is rounded (3/8" radius with the axle mounted in the center).
5" high, 13 1/4" wide.
The gear starts with a strip that is 2 3/16" wide and 18 1/4" long of 0.093 (3/32") material. The center part that mounts to the fuselage is 4 1/4" in width. The legs are 7" in length, and taper down to 3/4" from the 2 3/16" width over the 7 inches. The last 3/4" of each leg is bent for the wheel attachment, and the 3/4" tab is rounded (3/8" radius with the axle mounted in the center).
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Thanks HP. That will help out a lot in locating an appropriate landing gear for my Jensen kit. I had misplaced the one that came with the kit, I thought it was too small anyway. thanks again, lifer
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Hay there Judd, i am returning to R/C plane building and flying. after 8 years of fighting cancer. trying to do something since the cancer is still present, and the depression is high knowing i will die from it. But to the point you have a kit for a UGLY STIK ?? i hope u still have it and i would love to have. the ugly stik was my favorite r/c plane don't really know why but is. i am trying to build or get one to build into a electric uglystik. if you do have it please E-MAIL me about and the price you would like. Thank you
E-MAIL is: [email protected] hope to hear from you my friend bye.
E-MAIL is: [email protected] hope to hear from you my friend bye.
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Hay there Judd, i am returning to R/C plane building and flying. after 8 years of fighting cancer. trying to do something since the cancer is still present, and the depression is high knowing i will die from it. But to the point you have a kit for a UGLY STIK ?? i hope u still have it and i would love to have. the ugly stik was my favorite r/c plane don't really know why but is. i am trying to build or get one to build into a electric uglystik. if you do have it please E-MAIL me about and the price you would like. Thank you
E-MAIL is: [email protected] hope to hear from you my friend bye.
E-MAIL is: [email protected] hope to hear from you my friend bye.
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Just finished up the paint job on mine this weekend. Its covered with Sig Koverall & finished with Brodak dope. Still needs to be rubbed out, but its really glossy allready. Cant wait to get this one in the air.....Gene
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Gene, that is simply gorgeous. Beautiful job, sir. Have you flown her yet?
Ya know, I got into electrics last year, and haven't cranked a glow engine since. But reading through this thread has given me the urge to dust off my old Kougar/OS .40 combo and make a mess. I've still got some fuel around here, somewhere...
And build a Stik. I built the Midwest example as a second or third model, back in the late 80's, put a zillion flights on it, and finally gave it to a youngster a few years back.
Come to think of it, The Empire still offers an electric version… Hmmmmm...
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Ya know, I got into electrics last year, and haven't cranked a glow engine since. But reading through this thread has given me the urge to dust off my old Kougar/OS .40 combo and make a mess. I've still got some fuel around here, somewhere...
And build a Stik. I built the Midwest example as a second or third model, back in the late 80's, put a zillion flights on it, and finally gave it to a youngster a few years back.
Come to think of it, The Empire still offers an electric version… Hmmmmm...
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This weekend i'll be hauling out everything i built this past winter to test fly. I programed the radios & test run the engines in everything last weekend so i should be able to concentrate on just flying everything!......Gene
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my name is a. b. gentry in rocky mount nc...e-mail is [email protected] have been looking for a set of plans... thanks
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my name is a. b. gentry in rocky mount nc...e-mail is [email protected] have been looking for a set of plans... thanks
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1253
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Hi guys, here is a photo of my trusty old "Stick on Floats", taken some 35 years ago. Constructed with a foam wing core, and "Traditional" stained wood finish, applied to every U/S I have built, 1/2A and up. Kraft 7C radio AND Kraft 61 engine of course, last flown 2 years ago.
Currently in the workshop for refurbishing and 2.4Ghz conversion, the airfame is sound but the floats need some TLC. The 7C Tx has been in regular use since it was built in 1977, mainly now used with a couple of 2.4Ghz modules I built a few years ago, (Spektrum and Assan).
Cheers, EGB. (Eric in OZ)
Currently in the workshop for refurbishing and 2.4Ghz conversion, the airfame is sound but the floats need some TLC. The 7C Tx has been in regular use since it was built in 1977, mainly now used with a couple of 2.4Ghz modules I built a few years ago, (Spektrum and Assan).
Cheers, EGB. (Eric in OZ)
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The floats are foam cored, balsa and fabric covered, from drawings in a mid '70s magazine, possibly RCM. Strong enough if everything goes to plan, but the odd hard landing, running ashore too fast, and other such happenings have taken their toll. I'll probably put the old girl back on her wheels to check out the new 2.4Ghz installation while I strip, reinforce and recover the floats.
Cheers, EGB. (Eric from OZ).
Cheers, EGB. (Eric from OZ).
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High power Ugly Stick
Could you please email me a copy of the Ugly Stick plan.
I bought the plane and it has two forties and a sixty on it.
it grooves.
Thanks
Dale Sandera ([email protected])
I bought the plane and it has two forties and a sixty on it.
it grooves.
Thanks
Dale Sandera ([email protected])
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If I may, I'd like tor revive this thread for some reason. Ten years ago, I signed in to RCU to learn about Das Ugly Stik (hence my RCU name) and ended up here. I built simulator models of Das Ugly Stik for its 40th anniversary.
Only this year, on its 50th anniversary, I got to know George Walker, who actually was the originator of Das Ugly Stik as we know it. He confirmed what I knew so far and told me several details to add to my Das Ugly Stik history, which is well-known (as a PDF file) in the Web. I'm still working on it and hope to finish it in January.
Meanwhile I'd like to mention that excellent scans of all three plans are at Outerzone. The first two plans have been drawn by George, and now he even scanned his original vellum that was turned into the Grid Leaks plan, and his original of the Jensen kit plan. (Both are autographed.)
The following is a new scan of the well-known 1966 Grid Leaks front page showing George Walker posing with his prototype model, the first Das Ugly Stik ever. Along the way, he's advertizing the new Kraft KP-6 (on the ground). That is consequential because George did (designed) all advertizing for Kraft, also the full-page KP-6 ad at the same issue's back cover. That pertains to Das Ugly Stik because the original model had been a mere test-bed designed by Kraft in 1964 for the development of his first proportional set, the KP-4.
More to come, if you like...
Only this year, on its 50th anniversary, I got to know George Walker, who actually was the originator of Das Ugly Stik as we know it. He confirmed what I knew so far and told me several details to add to my Das Ugly Stik history, which is well-known (as a PDF file) in the Web. I'm still working on it and hope to finish it in January.
Meanwhile I'd like to mention that excellent scans of all three plans are at Outerzone. The first two plans have been drawn by George, and now he even scanned his original vellum that was turned into the Grid Leaks plan, and his original of the Jensen kit plan. (Both are autographed.)
The following is a new scan of the well-known 1966 Grid Leaks front page showing George Walker posing with his prototype model, the first Das Ugly Stik ever. Along the way, he's advertizing the new Kraft KP-6 (on the ground). That is consequential because George did (designed) all advertizing for Kraft, also the full-page KP-6 ad at the same issue's back cover. That pertains to Das Ugly Stik because the original model had been a mere test-bed designed by Kraft in 1964 for the development of his first proportional set, the KP-4.
More to come, if you like...
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They must have been close friends. George is a real gentleman and Phil Kraft must have been one as well.
George still has two things from his prototype: the pilot and the cowl. He made the picture for us.
The cowl was fibreglass put over a wooden plug and cut to shape. The plywood backplate was epoxied on, as written in the plan. The whole thing was painted silver. The plan shows a hole, I think meant as air intake for the carburetor behind it. The real cowl doesn't have this hole. There are two models shown in the Grid Leaks article, George's with red fin and white rudder, and Phil's (built for him by Dick Kidd) with all-white vertical tail. Phil Kraft immediately omitted the cowl to have access to the engine.
The pilot is a Williams Brothers kit, still available today. It has been painted including the mustache. The scarf is made from a scrap piece of red-dyed silk, which had been used to cover the wing. George used clear dope which is why the wing is translucent. The other prototype has a white scarf for the pilot, by the way.
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... One thing I'd really love to see, is a picture of Phil Kraft's orignal test bed airplane that was the Ugly Stik's forerunner. I've read elsewhere that the original test bed had all square flying surfaces, completely square, and was really ugly, and that he called it the box-fli. I think the ugly stik as designed by George Walker is actually quite pretty, it has an aggressive, hawk like feel about it with the original flat wings and the fuselage being straight on the bottom. The ugly stik is to rc airplanes what the Fender telecaster is to electric guitars.
Anyway, George used a photo of his prototype to outline the boxy test bed. It's kind of reverse engineering because he remembers what he did to turn the ugly stick into Das Ugly Stik, as he puts it. He always felt the straight wing looks like drooping, regardless of "decorated" or not. That's why he asked Phil Kraft about dihedral, and when Phil agreed George drew dihedral in the Jensen kit plan. He thinks the test bed just had the wing covered with natural-colored silk and was painted with clear dope so fuselage and tail had a balsa look.
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Great info, I have all size planes 100cc extra 32% Decathlon many 50cc planes many old school pattern and if you ask my friends which I enjoy the most they will tell you The Ugly Stick, I will all ways have one.. Thanks for the info to everyone. One of my favorite things to do is go out when the wind is 15 or more mph and wind surf with it, its the only plane I fly on days like that.
Ron
Ron