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Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick

Old 10-06-2013, 11:07 PM
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Jensen main gear dimensions are:


5" high, 13 1/4" wide.


The gear starts with a strip that is 2 3/16" wide and 18 1/4" long of 0.093 (3/32") material. The center part that mounts to the fuselage is 4 1/4" in width. The legs are 7" in length, and taper down to 3/4" from the 2 3/16" width over the 7 inches. The last 3/4" of each leg is bent for the wheel attachment, and the 3/4" tab is rounded (3/8" radius with the axle mounted in the center).
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:39 PM
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Thanks HP. That will help out a lot in locating an appropriate landing gear for my Jensen kit. I had misplaced the one that came with the kit, I thought it was too small anyway. thanks again, lifer
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:45 AM
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Hay there Judd, i am returning to R/C plane building and flying. after 8 years of fighting cancer. trying to do something since the cancer is still present, and the depression is high knowing i will die from it. But to the point you have a kit for a UGLY STIK ?? i hope u still have it and i would love to have. the ugly stik was my favorite r/c plane don't really know why but is. i am trying to build or get one to build into a electric uglystik. if you do have it please E-MAIL me about and the price you would like. Thank you
E-MAIL is: krazymike58@yahoo.com hope to hear from you my friend bye.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:52 AM
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Hay there Judd, i am returning to R/C plane building and flying. after 8 years of fighting cancer. trying to do something since the cancer is still present, and the depression is high knowing i will die from it. But to the point you have a kit for a UGLY STIK ?? i hope u still have it and i would love to have. the ugly stik was my favorite r/c plane don't really know why but is. i am trying to build or get one to build into a electric uglystik. if you do have it please E-MAIL me about and the price you would like. Thank you
E-MAIL is: krazymike58@yahoo.com hope to hear from you my friend bye.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:30 AM
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Just finished up the paint job on mine this weekend. Its covered with Sig Koverall & finished with Brodak dope. Still needs to be rubbed out, but its really glossy allready. Cant wait to get this one in the air.....Gene
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:54 PM
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Very nice!!, with kraft radio what else could you want!
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:43 PM
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Gene, that is simply gorgeous. Beautiful job, sir. Have you flown her yet?

Ya know, I got into electrics last year, and haven't cranked a glow engine since. But reading through this thread has given me the urge to dust off my old Kougar/OS .40 combo and make a mess. I've still got some fuel around here, somewhere...

And build a Stik. I built the Midwest example as a second or third model, back in the late 80's, put a zillion flights on it, and finally gave it to a youngster a few years back.

Come to think of it, The Empire still offers an electric version… Hmmmmm...

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Old 04-17-2014, 03:13 PM
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This weekend i'll be hauling out everything i built this past winter to test fly. I programed the radios & test run the engines in everything last weekend so i should be able to concentrate on just flying everything!......Gene
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:38 PM
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my name is a. b. gentry in rocky mount nc...e-mail is wn4z462@centurylink.net have been looking for a set of plans... thanks
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:27 AM
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I still have mine , though I haven`t flown it for several years ,but after reading this thread , I feel like dusting it off and taking it out for a ride
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Originally Posted by ge3740 View Post
my name is a. b. gentry in rocky mount nc...e-mail is wn4z462@centurylink.net have been looking for a set of plans... thanks
There are various versions of the Ugly Stick on the Outerzone site eg:-
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1253
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:59 AM
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Plans and short kit here
http://www.eurekaaircraft.com/plan_kits/uglystick60.htm
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Old 12-10-2014, 10:37 PM
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Hi guys, here is a photo of my trusty old "Stick on Floats", taken some 35 years ago. Constructed with a foam wing core, and "Traditional" stained wood finish, applied to every U/S I have built, 1/2A and up. Kraft 7C radio AND Kraft 61 engine of course, last flown 2 years ago.

Currently in the workshop for refurbishing and 2.4Ghz conversion, the airfame is sound but the floats need some TLC. The 7C Tx has been in regular use since it was built in 1977, mainly now used with a couple of 2.4Ghz modules I built a few years ago, (Spektrum and Assan).

Cheers, EGB. (Eric in OZ)
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:04 PM
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Love your "Floating Stick" , all ways wondered if I would see an all Kraft setup by someone other than Phil. Did you make or buy the floats.
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Old 12-11-2014, 01:03 AM
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The floats are foam cored, balsa and fabric covered, from drawings in a mid '70s magazine, possibly RCM. Strong enough if everything goes to plan, but the odd hard landing, running ashore too fast, and other such happenings have taken their toll. I'll probably put the old girl back on her wheels to check out the new 2.4Ghz installation while I strip, reinforce and recover the floats.

Cheers, EGB. (Eric from OZ).
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Old 12-11-2014, 11:50 AM
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I think I recall the article. I may put my stick on floats next summer, i have skis ready for snow this winter (which just about guarantees we will not have any snow) .
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Originally Posted by RonMcCormick View Post
I think I recall the article. I may put my stick on floats next summer, i have skis ready for snow this winter (which just about guarantees we will not have any snow) .
Ron
Well, that must be a good thing. Speaking as a sun-drenched Aussie, I would hate having to live anywhere that had SNOW...

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I agree"good thing" .
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:16 PM
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Red face High power Ugly Stick

Could you please email me a copy of the Ugly Stick plan.
I bought the plane and it has two forties and a sixty on it.
it grooves.
Thanks
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:31 AM
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If I may, I'd like tor revive this thread for some reason. Ten years ago, I signed in to RCU to learn about Das Ugly Stik (hence my RCU name) and ended up here. I built simulator models of Das Ugly Stik for its 40th anniversary.

Only this year, on its 50th anniversary, I got to know George Walker, who actually was the originator of Das Ugly Stik as we know it. He confirmed what I knew so far and told me several details to add to my Das Ugly Stik history, which is well-known (as a PDF file) in the Web. I'm still working on it and hope to finish it in January.

Meanwhile I'd like to mention that excellent scans of all three plans are at Outerzone. The first two plans have been drawn by George, and now he even scanned his original vellum that was turned into the Grid Leaks plan, and his original of the Jensen kit plan. (Both are autographed.)

The following is a new scan of the well-known 1966 Grid Leaks front page showing George Walker posing with his prototype model, the first Das Ugly Stik ever. Along the way, he's advertizing the new Kraft KP-6 (on the ground). That is consequential because George did (designed) all advertizing for Kraft, also the full-page KP-6 ad at the same issue's back cover. That pertains to Das Ugly Stik because the original model had been a mere test-bed designed by Kraft in 1964 for the development of his first proportional set, the KP-4.

More to come, if you like...
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also, the first one had a fiberglass cowl which is the one i am going to build. i did meet
George and Phil here in North Carolina,
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Old 12-12-2016, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ge3740 View Post
also, the first one had a fiberglass cowl which is the one i am going to build. i did meet
George and Phil here in North Carolina,

They must have been close friends. George is a real gentleman and Phil Kraft must have been one as well.

George still has two things from his prototype: the pilot and the cowl. He made the picture for us.

The cowl was fibreglass put over a wooden plug and cut to shape. The plywood backplate was epoxied on, as written in the plan. The whole thing was painted silver. The plan shows a hole, I think meant as air intake for the carburetor behind it. The real cowl doesn't have this hole. There are two models shown in the Grid Leaks article, George's with red fin and white rudder, and Phil's (built for him by Dick Kidd) with all-white vertical tail. Phil Kraft immediately omitted the cowl to have access to the engine.

The pilot is a Williams Brothers kit, still available today. It has been painted including the mustache. The scarf is made from a scrap piece of red-dyed silk, which had been used to cover the wing. George used clear dope which is why the wing is translucent. The other prototype has a white scarf for the pilot, by the way.
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Old 12-12-2016, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lflf View Post
... One thing I'd really love to see, is a picture of Phil Kraft's orignal test bed airplane that was the Ugly Stik's forerunner. I've read elsewhere that the original test bed had all square flying surfaces, completely square, and was really ugly, and that he called it the box-fli. I think the ugly stik as designed by George Walker is actually quite pretty, it has an aggressive, hawk like feel about it with the original flat wings and the fuselage being straight on the bottom. The ugly stik is to rc airplanes what the Fender telecaster is to electric guitars.
Seems there never was a picture of this legendary Box-Fli. George Walker told me he said "that's one ugly stick" when he saw the model for the first time. That must have been the normal reaction, they just dubbed it ugly stick or similar. But George asked for a plan and went on to turn the boxy test bed into an interesting model. I think it reminds of macabre Halloween symbols like witches. Phil Kraft virtually calls it a joke with its "macabre" German look. (And George added "Das" to the name to add to this Germanness.)

Anyway, George used a photo of his prototype to outline the boxy test bed. It's kind of reverse engineering because he remembers what he did to turn the ugly stick into Das Ugly Stik, as he puts it. He always felt the straight wing looks like drooping, regardless of "decorated" or not. That's why he asked Phil Kraft about dihedral, and when Phil agreed George drew dihedral in the Jensen kit plan. He thinks the test bed just had the wing covered with natural-colored silk and was painted with clear dope so fuselage and tail had a balsa look.
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Great info, I have all size planes 100cc extra 32% Decathlon many 50cc planes many old school pattern and if you ask my friends which I enjoy the most they will tell you The Ugly Stick, I will all ways have one.. Thanks for the info to everyone. One of my favorite things to do is go out when the wind is 15 or more mph and wind surf with it, its the only plane I fly on days like that.
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