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Old 06-29-2007, 09:53 AM
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Bill & All

Have been sanding wing tips Bill, you were right they are BEARS to sand. This is the top wing its probably hard to see in pics but I'm looking for your opinions before I start the bottom wing.

skylark

The pics you are posting are GREAT they will be help full and are appreciated.

Black Drape

I have a manual for the 1/6 pica I can send you if you still need it.
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:24 AM
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Dan,

Look at the leading edge of the wing in the vicinity of the tip block. The planform for the ribs should follow the shape of the L/E.
The next to last rib looks like it needs a wee bit of material removed from the top. Lay a long straight edge on top of the ribs, and check that that rib does not stick up further than the rest. Your slight taper should begin inboard of that rib. Other than that, a little work with some 400 grit wet or dry paper (dry) should have you in business. Looking good.

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Old 06-29-2007, 11:37 AM
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ORIGINAL:If you hear of next year's fly-in date, let me know. I gotta get my vacation time reserved.
The 2008 American Waco Club fly-in will be held over Father's Day weekend, as usual - June 13-15, 2008.

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Old 06-29-2007, 07:08 PM
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Stickbuilder,
Thats a big 10-4 on the number, and I will probably need one of the t-shirts if they become available again. What numbers are still available? I was just turned on to this thread and have only gotten into it about twenty pages so far. It looks like you guys are not using the plastic corrigated aileron covers, is there some special reason why?

skylarkmk1,
Thanks for the info, I got the manual coppied, haven't had time to read it yet.

Thank you guys, very much I'm sure I will have a lot more questions. I hope you are patient.

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Old 06-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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Black Drape- I sent you a PM.
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:21 PM
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Ron,

I don't have the kit, I am building from plans, but from what I understand, the plastic covers do not have the correct number of corrugations which is 34. The full size ailerons are aluminum and are just primed and painted, no fabric on them. Photo 1

The plastic tank cover is not correct for the newer YMF Classic which is smooth without the groves, just button head rivets. Photo 2

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Old 06-30-2007, 01:31 AM
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Gentlemen and ladies.

May I be enlisted in this club?
I got a 1/5 Pica Waco from a garage sale, this airplane either took a hard landing on the r/h main or something was dropped on it. I have repaired all the damage there was, and want to modify it to a UMF-3 and paint it as the ones from the Cuban Navy.
Has any one built a UMF before? it appears to me from looking at pictures that the edge, or rim of the cockpit of the UMF is higher than on the YMF. also what is the distrance from the forward edge of the opening on the aft cockpit to the aft edge of the forward cockpit and what is the lenght and width of the forward cockpit.
Also I need to know the length of tne interplane N struts as I don't have them or the aileron push rods.
Any help will be greatly apreciated, differences between the two models.

gracias much.

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Old 06-30-2007, 02:51 AM
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damfino,

Received my Tee shirt today, over the moon with the quality and the artwork, now I need to go to a meet' and show off.

I cannot thank you enough for all the work involved in getting these shirts to ALL of us, even those of us from outside the bounds of the USA.

While I am at it, thanks to all those whose efforts have contributed to making this thread a high point of the day.




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Old 06-30-2007, 07:22 AM
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Okay, Here is the roster to date.

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#2 Hughes500
#3 Jim Henley
#4 mmattockx
#5 CTflyboy
#6 michaelj2k
#7 Ronj10
#8 gwulle
#9 jim schroer
#10 Skinny Bob
#11 Bart5495
#12 Pimmnz
#13 HarryJ
No. 14 Old Git
#15 ChrisMH
#16 Nerevar
#17 Ricatic
#18 Clay H.
#19 Tripp2Loo
#20 KHodges
#21 Bill Hogue (WACO One)
#22 Mangolo (Waldo)
#23 av8ter
#24 yel914
#25 damifino
#26 skylarkmk1
#27 Jacque
#28 Edwin
#29 AROPLANE
#30 CubNut (Anthony)
#31 BQuartucy (Bob Q)
#32 AERORON
#33 funkymusic
#34 RCOutlaw
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#36 Jackk36 (Jack)
#37 fatherrooster (Jim)
#38 Ilikebipes
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#40 CROWMAN17 (Marc)
#41 redcesar
#42 S. Christensen (Scott)
#43 Bill Deidrich
#44 Mike Barbee
#45 mrdhud (Dan Hudson)
#46 SoCalSal
#47 Todd (NightStalker)
#48 argon (Bob Gonzalez)
#49 mango 12 (Scott)
#50 skyjet 1
#51 ZIG
#52 Didg
#53 MarvinE255 (DOC)
#54 Joe Norris (Full Scale WACO Pilot)
#55 vasek
#56 SuperCub Man (Jim)
#57 Black Drape (Ron)
#58 aminiet (Angel Minet)
#59 Snowball
#60 doc zinger
#61 jagnweiner (Scott)

#64 stifts (Steve)


#66 Mobyal

#69 trlambsr

#77 tomcraig


#100 nine o nine (Mitch Epstein)



WACO Sisterhood Roster:

S-1 Janelle (Lady Stickbuilder)
S-2 Sissy Nightstalker
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:24 AM
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Guys,

I don't know what has happened to the thread, What was on one page is now on another. Here is the current roster (I think)

Welcome to Angel and Ron.

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Old 06-30-2007, 09:30 AM
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Angel,

Welcome aboard.

The main visual difference between a UMF and the YMF is the engine which required different "Bump" cowls;
UMFs have a Continental engine with paired bumps.
YMFs have a Jacobs engine with evenly spaced bumps.

I don’t believe there is any structural difference in the fuselage (cockpit area) between the UMF and YMF. The outline for the forward cockpit is shown on the plans. See the House of Moy site (http://www.houseofmoy.com/waco/) for PDFs of the plans. I think the vertical fin and rudder were enlarged between the -3 and -5. Looking at the pictures in the NWC album there appear to be slight differences in rudder shape (bottom radius of rudder) between individual planes.

On the Cuban Navy UMF-3, #26, shown on the National Waco Club site, pictures 63 thru 67 of the F3F5 album (http://www.nationalwacoclub.com/f3f5album/index3.html), the UMFs pictured have the smooth cowl with a slight taper to the rear.
Looking at picture #66 (3 flying in formation) there appears to be a different color on the top wing, possibly yellow. The cowl color is unknown, possibly Red or Blue.

Claude McCullough found, during research for his Top Gun entry of his Cuban Army WACO S3HD-A, #23; the wings, horizontal tail, cowl and spats were Chrome Yellow, the fuselage, fin, all struts and fillets were Aluminum. How well this color scheme fits the Cuban Navy Wacos is unknown.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:41 PM
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Skylark.

Thank you for welcoming me into the group.
I had noticed the Cuban Navy UMF cowlings to have no blisters and I would think the wings upper surface colors to be lighter due to the sun fading them out.
The fuselage could also be white as if it was aluminum/silver I don't think it would show so white on the pictures.
I had a conversation with Mr. Mc Cullough regarding his outstanding plane, I may do that one on the 1/4 scale ( if my wife don't kill me first ) but I want to finish this one first, I will try to contact the person in Cuba he got his information from, as it turns out he is a friend of a friend of mine. Also Mr. Dan Hagedorn, curator at the Smithsonian is supposed to be an expert on latin american aviation, He may know.
Does any one know if there a UMF at a museum?

Thanks.

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Old 06-30-2007, 03:30 PM
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Welcome Angel and Ron. You have joined the best forum on RCU. There is a mind boggleing amount of info, pics, tips etc. posted by a great bunch of guy's that will help with any question you might have.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:34 PM
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You are very welcome Old Git. Now to 'git' you over here for some sightseeing. There is a fellow 45 minutes from here who has recreated, from original plans, molds and castings, a Ford GT-40. I saw it a few years ago and you should see it. Pleasure to help keep you entertained. Damifino
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:24 PM
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:25 PM
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Jay, I received shirts Friday. Thanks they are great.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:17 PM
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Angel,

According to the FAA, there are only 6 UMFs on the registry. Since the Aerofiles indicate only 18 were made and 7 exported, that's pretty good. There are 3 in Ohio, which would be the closest to you.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:04 PM
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Ken,

Here are a couple more shots of the tail wheel.
P-1 – Close up of the top rear shock mount, spring is for the tail wheel lock.
P-2 – Close up of the top front mount, part with spring is the tail wheel lock.
P-3 – Picture of the Tail Wheel tube fork from the front, wheel hub profile can be seen.
P-4 – Picture of the Tail Wheel tube fork from the rear.
P-5 – Picture of the Tail Wheel tube fork from the side. Pivot point and lower shock mount can also be seen.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:48 AM
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Guys,

Let's all welcome Snowball as Brother #59. He and Jim (SuperCubMan) are building another 1/5th scale WACO. The more, the merrier.

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Old 07-02-2007, 07:00 AM
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Hey Snowball - glad you finally figured it out!! Now we have to get our new partner Kel, who has also decided to throw in with us and build a 1/5 Scale Waco from the Pica plans, to follow suit. Better get a tee shirt while there are some left.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:22 AM
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I'm trying to convince damifino that we need to have a second edition shirt. A different color this time, so that we will all know which edition is which. I think that if enough people want shirts that he will do another run. (hope I'm not speaking out of turn) How about it? Who all would be interested in another color of shirt?

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Old 07-02-2007, 08:30 AM
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Bill, Jay,

Count me in for 2.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:47 AM
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Guys,

I don't know what has happened to the thread, What was on one page is now on another. Here is the current roster (I think)

Welcome to Angel and Ron.

Bill, AMa 4720
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I was reading this thread last week and noticed that in a span of a couple hours the pages jumped up from the 120's to the 140's. Seemed weird so I went back a few pages expecting either a TON of new pics... or a flurry of discussion. Wasn't the case. I'm guessing that whoever controls the thread page content / volume reduced the amount of posts per page for whatever reason. Which kinda sucks because I have saved a lot of pictures for future reference with the page number as part of the file discription. So if I go back to the page in the picture description to read anything related to the picture, it aint on that page. It jumped up about 25 pages or so.

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Count me in, too. Two shirts for me, Jay did an outstanding job.
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I will take 2 if they become availible


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