Notices
Golden Age, Vintage & Antique RC Want to discuss some of those from the golden age, vintage rc planes or even an old classic antique vintage rc planes, radios, engines, etc? This is the place for you. Enjoy!

WACO YMF

Old 10-26-2009, 09:16 PM
  #9351  
Stickbuilder
Thread Starter
 
Stickbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Leesburg, FL
Posts: 8,678
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

ORIGINAL: SuperCub Man


Would anyone rather I went to another forum to talk about the ARE?

Absolutely not. If it's about anything to do with a WACO it belongs here. That, plus you are a member of the Waco Brotherhood. Nowhere does it say that it's only about the UMF/YMF versions. Just wait until I start up on the 27% UPF-7.

Bill, Waco Brother #1,
Old 10-26-2009, 10:01 PM
  #9352  
PacificNWSkyPilot
My Feedback: (19)
 
PacificNWSkyPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Raeford, North Carolina
Posts: 3,988
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Good point!

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.
Old 10-27-2009, 06:52 AM
  #9353  
412t1
Senior Member
My Feedback: (7)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Latham, NY,
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Hi Guys,

Just a heads up...I was on RCU last night and typed in Waco in the buy and sell section and was shocked to see an ad with a picture of my Waco on it!! I posted to his ad saying the picture wasn't the plane for sale and I see this morning he removed the picture. The ad is here : http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=566968. I posted the picture back in 2007 here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_51...tm.htm#5935087. He used the third picture on post #416.

If anyone was interested in the ad, I'd advise you to hold onto your money as I'm not sure he even has a Waco for sale or if it's a scam!

What do you guys make of this?

Shawn

Waco Brotherhood #73
Old 10-27-2009, 07:07 AM
  #9354  
PacificNWSkyPilot
My Feedback: (19)
 
PacificNWSkyPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Raeford, North Carolina
Posts: 3,988
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Shawn,

He must have something to sell, he's not willing to ship. It probably is painted like yours, or similar to it. He should have asked.

So YOU'RE the guy who beat me to Ken's Waco....

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.
Old 10-27-2009, 08:46 AM
  #9355  
tmac48
 
tmac48's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: kangaroo flatVIC, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 691
Received 11 Likes on 9 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Hi all, I have finally sorted out my N struts. Waiting for the streamlined aloy to arrive so I can get the cabanes under way. Will post some photos, what do you think?
Regards tmac
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ca81139.jpg
Views:	42
Size:	81.5 KB
ID:	1302855   Click image for larger version

Name:	Kf12429.jpg
Views:	45
Size:	149.8 KB
ID:	1302856   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ty66459.jpg
Views:	43
Size:	80.8 KB
ID:	1302857   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pj19555.jpg
Views:	43
Size:	66.4 KB
ID:	1302858   Click image for larger version

Name:	Gr92914.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	72.1 KB
ID:	1302859  
Old 10-27-2009, 09:48 AM
  #9356  
skylarkmk1
 
skylarkmk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Festus, MO
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

tmac,

Looking good. Suggestion - Use longer mounting straps in the wing that are about 3/4s the depth of the spar, just a little extra security. P1 is from a 1937 YKS-7 and the straps are in the upper right section of the photo. There are 2 wings, leading edge to leading edge and the straps are black or grey.

P1 - YKS-7 wing section.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp44644.jpg
Views:	41
Size:	67.1 KB
ID:	1302886  
Old 10-27-2009, 10:02 AM
  #9357  
SuperCub Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines, ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

tmac48 - Struts are looking good. Presume from your comments that these are mock-ups and you will make operating ones from streamlined aluminum using the fittings shown here. Good stuff!

skylarkmk1 - these are some photos you posted "way back when!" showing the Grimes Retractable landing lights. Unfortunately, as you know, the Waco ARE has these and I am thinking of adding them to my model. Problem is actuating them. Do you have any info on how the full scale ones operate? I can get some really small servos used in indoor electric stuff to actuate them. I have a few thoughts but it would be interesting to see how the big ones do it!!

I see the restored version at the EAA doesn't have the "passing light" so I may not include it in the model. I'm trying to stay away from "over detail scaling", but maybe not succeeding!
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Yt62761.jpg
Views:	49
Size:	48.6 KB
ID:	1302897   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mr40979.jpg
Views:	37
Size:	42.3 KB
ID:	1302898   Click image for larger version

Name:	Dx67514.jpg
Views:	38
Size:	30.2 KB
ID:	1302899   Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp44529.jpg
Views:	38
Size:	46.2 KB
ID:	1302900  
Old 10-27-2009, 11:16 AM
  #9358  
skylarkmk1
 
skylarkmk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Festus, MO
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Jim,

The lights are driven by a worm gear inside the wing causing the section of gear holding the light housing to extend or retract. The pivot point is inside the trim ring and a bit above the skin. There is an adjustment screw inside the main housing to adjust the degree of pivot.

The offset hinges used for bomb bay door could work; I would use a pair back to back for stability when extended. Suggest mounting the lights assembly like an aileron servo on a plywood plate for access and ease of construction. There are 2, one in each wing. Make sure the servos have enough power to hold the lights open in flight.

P1 – Close up of the light with the approximate pivot point.
P2 – Adjustment screw (next to the label with directions)
P3 – Label
P4 – Offset hinges
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ki19084.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	41.3 KB
ID:	1302929   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ge95521.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	34.6 KB
ID:	1302930   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ig11123.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	66.5 KB
ID:	1302931   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yv65939.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	9.0 KB
ID:	1302932  
Old 10-27-2009, 06:22 PM
  #9359  
SuperCub Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines, ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Thanks John. Will have to find some bright flashlight LED's.
Old 10-27-2009, 07:08 PM
  #9360  
PacificNWSkyPilot
My Feedback: (19)
 
PacificNWSkyPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Raeford, North Carolina
Posts: 3,988
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Wal-Mart, Camping department. All sorts of flashlights with LEDs. Cheap too!


Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.
Old 10-27-2009, 07:17 PM
  #9361  
WacoNut
 
WacoNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Blanchester, OH
Posts: 6,604
Received 36 Likes on 33 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Jim,
For LED's go here: [link=http://www.superbrightleds.com/]Super Brite LED's[/link]
Old 10-27-2009, 08:29 PM
  #9362  
Stickbuilder
Thread Starter
 
Stickbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Leesburg, FL
Posts: 8,678
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Jim,

There are some nylon offset hinges available with a tab for the servo to actuate. I'm using a Grimes light on my current waco. The offset hinge is perfect along with a micro servo to actuate the light swing.

Bill, Waco Brother #1
Old 10-28-2009, 03:55 AM
  #9363  
RCplanman
My Feedback: (16)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 295
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

SuperCubMan, Jim, Take a look at RCSB , in the Zeroil thread , Stagger Wing Beech R. Bouyn? shows a landing light w/hinge
Old 10-28-2009, 10:23 AM
  #9364  
SuperCub Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines, ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

WHOA guys!! Thanks for the info, but you're making me feel awfully dumb!
- John, thanks for that info
- WacoNut, I have been to that site and I went again on your advise, but I just don't understand all the tech stuff. It seems there are a dozen white LEDs and I haven't a clue which one to select. I also need to find the proper housing for it. Think I'll take a look at the train supply section at my LHS where they may have such a beast.
- Stickbuilder, Thanks for the info but what make is that hinge? It sounds like the real deal but what is it listed as and is it a hobby item or did it come from some other source?
- RCplanman, Found the R. Boyne thread on the Ziroli Staggerwing on RC Scale Builder and it has a ton of info with pix. However except for Radio Shack, no source is mentioned for the lamps. Radio Shack is defunct in Canada so I'll have to do a search. But I like his second idea for the retracting lamps. I'll probably run the landing lights off a flap microswitch as I do on my Super Cub and put the running lights on an empty channel or a switch in the cockpit which I'll turn on before take-off, if a spare channel isn't available.

I'll let you know what I come up with! Thanks again!!
Old 10-28-2009, 11:24 AM
  #9365  
VOX
 
VOX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Feldkirch, AUSTRIA
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Hello,

I wish to ask help.... At the moment I wish to start to do new model WACO in scale 1:2. For work to me good drawings of a fuselage so-as I plan to make it of steel tubes, as well as at the original are required. Someone has drawings of this design??

Albert
Old 10-28-2009, 03:48 PM
  #9366  
mrdhud
My Feedback: (48)
 
mrdhud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bartow, FL
Posts: 1,427
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Hello all,

I see on the bottom of my page I no longer have an email or PM Button? Can any one tell me why? And how to get it back.
Thanks
Dan
Old 10-28-2009, 07:49 PM
  #9367  
WacoNut
 
WacoNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Blanchester, OH
Posts: 6,604
Received 36 Likes on 33 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Jim,
Your Local Radio Shack will also have a selection of LED's and the resistors that you will need to wire in with them. You can get a better Idea of the size by looking at them 1st hand. Well scratch that as I just read your reply above and see you do not have a radio shack available. I suggest you ask around for someone who has used LED's for landing lights. I purchased some recommended lights for Nav lights and have no idea which ones would be best for landing lights.
Later!!
Anthony
Old 10-28-2009, 08:02 PM
  #9368  
Stickbuilder
Thread Starter
 
Stickbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Leesburg, FL
Posts: 8,678
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

ORIGINAL: SuperCub Man

WHOA guys!! Thanks for the info, but you're making me feel awfully dumb!

- Stickbuilder, Thanks for the info but what make is that hinge? It sounds like the real deal but what is it listed as and is it a hobby item or did it come from some other source?

I'll let you know what I come up with! Thanks again!!

It's either DuBro, Rocket City or Sullivan. It's the offset hinge in nylon with the actuator bar. It was intended for landing gear doors.

Bill, Waco Brother #1
Old 10-28-2009, 08:37 PM
  #9369  
skylarkmk1
 
skylarkmk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Festus, MO
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Dan,

You do not need these items on your own post as you are not going to e-mail, PM, add yourself to your address book or block yourself. I don't have any of those items either on my posts, they are on eveybody elses including yours.
Old 10-28-2009, 08:47 PM
  #9370  
Cricklewood
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Guelph, ON, CANADA
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

Jim,

You might want to try The Source (thesource.ca), they bought out Radio Shack and the store in my area seems to carry most of the same things that Radio Shack did. On the website they list three stores in St Catherines, there is one in the Fairview Mall which is likely the closest to you.

Chris Kerrigan
WB # 133
Old 10-28-2009, 09:42 PM
  #9371  
SuperCub Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines, ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF



[/quote]

It's either DuBro, Rocket City or Sullivan. It's the offset hinge in nylon with the actuator bar. It was intended for landing gear doors.

Bill, Waco Brother #1
[/quote]

Bill - Is the the beast you were referring to?? If so it's Sonictronics! Thanks
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp42796.jpg
Views:	40
Size:	51.1 KB
ID:	1304011  
Old 10-29-2009, 04:06 AM
  #9372  
Stickbuilder
Thread Starter
 
Stickbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Leesburg, FL
Posts: 8,678
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF


ORIGINAL: SuperCub Man


It's either DuBro, Rocket City or Sullivan. It's the offset hinge in nylon with the actuator bar. It was intended for landing gear doors.

Bill, Waco Brother #1
[/quote]

Bill - Is the the beast you were referring to?? If so it's Sonictronics! Thanks

[/quote]

That looks like it. Did Sonictronics buy our Rocket City?

Bill, Waco Brother #1`
Old 10-29-2009, 10:39 AM
  #9373  
SuperCub Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines, ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF

[/quote]

That looks like it. Did Sonictronics buy our Rocket City?

Bill, Waco Brother #1`
[/quote]



They may have, but I don't know. I think Rocket City is long out of business but a lot of their stuff is still floating around. If you see a product of their's you like, I'd buy it up as once it's gone - it's gone!!
Old 10-30-2009, 04:35 PM
  #9374  
SuperCub Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines, ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF


ORIGINAL: skylarkmk1

Jim,

The lights are driven by a worm gear inside the wing causing the section of gear holding the light housing to extend or retract. The pivot point is inside the trim ring and a bit above the skin. There is an adjustment screw inside the main housing to adjust the degree of pivot.

The offset hinges used for bomb bay door could work; I would use a pair back to back for stability when extended. Suggest mounting the lights assembly like an aileron servo on a plywood plate for access and ease of construction. There are 2, one in each wing. Make sure the servos have enough power to hold the lights open in flight.

P1 – Close up of the light with the approximate pivot point.
P2 – Adjustment screw (next to the label with directions)
P3 – Label
P4 – Offset hinges
Do you have any idea of the Diameter of these lights? Grimes say they have 6" and 8" sets but when I draw a circle proportional (21%) to that on the plans, they look kinda big! I have a 1.38" dia. halogen light that would be great, but as I said, it looks kinda big! Any thoughts??
Old 10-31-2009, 04:20 AM
  #9375  
Stickbuilder
Thread Starter
 
Stickbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Leesburg, FL
Posts: 8,678
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: WACO YMF


ORIGINAL: VOX

Hello,

I wish to ask help.... At the moment I wish to start to do new model WACO in scale 1:2. For work to me good drawings of a fuselage so-as I plan to make it of steel tubes, as well as at the original are required. Someone has drawings of this design??

Albert
Albert,

Once and again, I will help you with your drawings, but only after the new kits are on the market. I promised Michele that I would hold them until he has the new Waco UPF-7 and the YMF completed. That is when I will make the drawings available.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.