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Old 06-25-2011, 08:03 PM
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Welcome to the new WACO Brothers, nice to not be the newest guy any more.

I like the idea of a gathering also.

The National Biplane Fly In used to be in Bartlesville, OK and is now in Junction City, KS. That might be an event to coordinate with for 2012.

http://www.nationalbiplaneflyin.com/

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Hi Guys

Can anyone tell me the diameter of the fuel filler caps on the YMF 5. John, pehaps you can help.

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ORIGINAL: n6iap Welcome to the new WACO Brothers, nice to not be the newest guy any more. I like the idea of a gathering
also. The National Biplane Fly In used to be in Bartlesville, OK and is now in Junction City, KS. That might be an event to coordinate
with for 2012. http://www.nationalbiplaneflyin.com/ jimm
Jimm,

The idea was to conduct an event you could fly at... :^) With our typical event pilot head counts of 250 to 300 you can fly any time
you wish from our 10 flight stations. We hosted the IMAA Ralley Of Giants and for the most part...people sat waiting to fly for one
or two hours instead of simply walking to a waiting flight station.

International participants never have problems with freight delivery and access. Freight forwarders Alliance International for one...
can arrange pick up and transfers on both ends. Bomber Field has a full size hangar for storage of international pilot aircraft shipped
ahead of an event.

At an event conducted for every type of bipe...period...take your camera cause you'll probably fly twice or three times.

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Tmac,

The diameter of the fuel caps is approximately 2-1/2 to 3” depending on the style, Smooth with just knurling around the perimeter, Knobby with a bumpy shape or Angle with 1 or 2 pieces of angle welded or riveted to the top of the cap.

The diameter of the breather tubes is usually about ¼” ID, and they are about 6” tall. The radius of the bends are TLAR as I have not seen the exact same shape on different planes. The pattern also varies, either the β€œ?” shape or the L shape. The S3HD has the β€œ?” shape and it points forward. SRE NC 20961 has the L shape also pointing forward.

P1 - Smoth Cap and ''?'' Tube on YMF NC 14081
P2 - Knobby Cap and ''?'' Tube on UBF NC 12002
P3 - Angle Cap and ''L'' Tube on SRE NC 20961
ERROL I have asked the same question and this info provided by skylarkmk1
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:00 PM
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Tmac,

Thanks for reposting that. What post # was that?

Errol,

Here is a photo of a knobby cap with a scale. You can subtract the knobby part to get the diameter of a smooth or angled cap (about 2-1/4 " outside diameter). Check your documentation to see what kind of cap (smooth, angled or knobby) the one you are doing has.

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Old 06-26-2011, 07:06 PM
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In case anyone is interested, I'm selling my Pepino Waco.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemID=759030

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Tmac,

Thanks for reposting that. What post # was that?


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Old 06-27-2011, 02:56 AM
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John

You are an absolute gentleman. Thanks again. I may be leaning on you again in the future because I believe there are only 2 Waco's here in South Africa & I don't know where either of them are.

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Thanks tmac48 for the info on the tank as well. I really appreciate the help.

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You are welcome.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:16 AM
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Hello Brothers and others. I found this link on metal etching that some of us may find very handy for Instrument panels and other related metal parts. And in fact could be used for many things in our hobby. Just thought it might be useful to some of you and thought I would share. http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index.php?showtopic=17602

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to all,
i'm looking to pick the color and markings for my bird, and think i found what i'm looking for on N15700 a 1935 ypf, one of two, that was custom built by waco for a miss connie e. johnston. can these markings and colors be used on my ymf if i'm building scale. does documentation have to be provided for both the construction and the paint/ markings, i can't find anything that spells it out. where would i look.

don't mean to be a bother.

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Old 06-27-2011, 12:19 PM
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Check the scalemasters site for a guide line it is in the PDF fliles on competition guide. For scale contest the plane type UPF, YMF etc. Needs to match the plane you are modeling otherwise you will recieve downgrades. Even slight differences such as a UMFcowl on a YMF is caught and downgraded. Best to pick one that matches the kit you are building from the start, and make everything as close as possible to the subject you are modeling. Hope this helps here is the link to the scalemasters site.
www.usscalemasters.org/

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Old 06-27-2011, 12:23 PM
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Well the flair's are done, so is the wheel pant's.Now on to the flying wire's.
Speaking of wire, it's still free and there is plenty left.
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ORIGINAL: ceije to all, i'm looking to pick the color and markings for my bird, and think i found what i'm looking for
on N15700 a 1935 ypf, one of two, that was custom built by waco for a miss connie e. johnston. can these markings and colors
be used on my ymf if i'm building scale. does documentation have to be provided for both the construction and the paint/markings,
i can't find anything that spells it out. where would i look. don't mean to be a bother. ceije # 196
To better understand what is required of you I invite you to review this documentation binder How-To. It explains and illustrates
the proper way to show documentaiton of both color markings, specific airframe features, and multiple view drawing presentation
for competition purposes.

The thing to remember is you are "replicating" a single full size airframe. Documentation which matches that of the features on a
single full size airframe can be merged with images of the full size you are replicating to show details and focus areas on the
airframe not typically available in a documentation resource...unless you have the 1:1 to photograph.

A typical Waco issue is most color photographic documentation is of the present day Classic Waco. It is best to determine the owner
of a specific airframe and acquire a photographic walkaround and obtain all the paint particulars...which is probably a Randolph color.

Enjoy, though its a Beech documentation example...well at least it is a bipe... :^)

http://004edc4.netsolhost.com/Docume..._YC43_Docs.htm
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:59 PM
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The only way to be competitive is to build your model to match your documentation, not the other way around.

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Well the flair's are done, so is the wheel pant's.Now on to the flying wire's.
Speaking of wire, it's still free and there is plenty left.
Your doing a great job with your Waco

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ceije:

Bill is right. Trying to retro fit and reop a model to match documentation is a chore best left to those with little else to do.
Serious competitive flying scale modelers build from documentation from the beginning. Makes for an enjoyable experience
not matched by much in the modeling hobby...

Owners of 1:1 are typically more than happy to provide a photo walkaround of their pride and joys. Contributing $20 to
their maintenance bootie doesn't hurt one bit.

Do you have a decent multiple view drawing? I would expect at a minimum you should find one here...whether its UMF,
YMF, etc.
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Thanks WacoNut.I have been working for about three hours now on these flying wires. Going to be a real PITA.
Good thing I'm retired. Here it is
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Robert,
You are looking good, I think you nailed it with the material you used for flying wires. I've been intrupted but hope to get back to my build again soon.
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Oh Oh, I want to be a brother!! I have the Pica ARF(blue with yellow markings) powered by an OS 110 Alpha 4 stroke. My obsession has lead me to the GP new ARF. Hopefully I will be be collecting goodies to put one of those together soon, thinking about the OS 155 Alpha's for it. I have a few large gas 3D machines but prefer the glow 4 stroke for these scale birds.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:37 AM
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NEW BROTHER ALERT!!!!

Let's give sevans16 a hearty welcome. You are Brother #208.
Do you have a real name to go with your code name?

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thanks for the responce, its time to start looking for new subject matter. i guess i was trying to work bass ackwords, again thanks for setting me streight and pointing me in the right direction.

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Thank You Jim, your's is on it's way.
Welcome to newbie, sevans16. Enjoy
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Bill I also would like to join the brotherhood. My plans just arrived, 1/5 scale pica ymf. AMA plans service came through for me. Very fast this time around. Thanks George
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